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Re: You really need to read the Bible! - Letters to the Webmaster

Anonymous — Thu, 11 Oct 2007 01:36:00 -0000

the bible is a sick cult way of looking at life. being lost in a delusion may seem easier on your mind and soul but in the end its just a sick joke as you float above your body in the astral, confused that your not in heaven....or hell... see the bible is just a book, and you base your whole life on it but in the end none of it is true, it's just a collaboration of shitty stories that make no sense. All you christians eat your little wafer bodies and sip your wine blood/ grape juice and pray to something that you discovered by reading text on paper. It makes no freaking sense, the only positive aspect of this religion is putting morals and ethics standard. its time for something new...something you can find before you even die, be reassured of your afterlife and live your life different, with actual factual knowledge of whats gonna happen instead of relying on faith and your life building of delusion. research psionics, thats all i have to say...

Re: You really need to read the Bible! - Letters to the Webmaster

Jesus Squeals like a pig — Mon, 01 Oct 2007 23:25:00 -0000

Poltergoost wrote:

"I guess that's why Judas betrayed Jesus. The Roman Soldiers were looking for someone to gang bang, and they paid Judas the 30 pieces of silver which was their way of paying a "Prostitution Fee" when Judas decided to pimp Jesus out."

Imagine the updated version of that movie, "THE LIFE OF CHRIST" (The Deliverance Version)

Re: You really need to read the Bible! - Letters to the Webmaster

Poltergoost — Mon, 01 Oct 2007 23:12:00 -0000

"Kind of makes me wonder if Jesus tied his 12 disciples up and had orgies with them"

Just wanted to add to that.

I guess that's why Judas betrayed Jesus. The Roman Soldiers were looking for someone to gang bang, and they paid Judas the 30 pieces of silver which was their way of paying a "Prostitution Fee" when Judas decided to pimp Jesus out.

Re: You really need to read the Bible! - Letters to the Webmaster

Poltergoost — Mon, 01 Oct 2007 23:08:00 -0000

SAPHIRE SAID:

"I mean uneducated"

I don't mean to knock education, however it's not everything. I think having some good old "Common Sense" and knowing how to think for yourself is very valuable.

Yes, I will take credit for being one of those "Christian Bashers". I do not apologize for that. So deal with it Saphire. We are here to stay.

As for you refusing to hang around here, and arguing, well just like most christians you cannot defend your beliefs. That's why you choose to leave. You are a typical "chicken shit christian".

When things heat up on here, you get the hell out of the kitchen obviously.

Thanks for proving that you cannot defend your faith, and just how faulty the bible is, and yes I have read the "bible" several times.

I have to admit that I have found the bible very helpful. Especially the pages out of the bible. They come in very handy anytime you run out of toilet paper in the bathroom.

As for wanting to tie the "Webmaster" up and read the whole bible to him, I never realized that Jesus taught you about bondage.

That kinky Jesus.

Kind of makes me wonder if Jesus tied his 12 disciples up and had orgies with them.

Re: You really need to read the Bible! - Letters to the Webmaster

Chucky Jesus — Wed, 26 Sep 2007 19:41:00 -0000

Reading the Bible, if read with a truly open mind, usually leads to a loss of belief. I marvel at the nonsense, the contradictions, the cruelty that can be found in those pages. Base your life on this? I hope not!!

Re: You really need to read the Bible! - Letters to the Webmaster

Monk — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 14:02:00 -0000

freethinker05:

Yep, I live about halfway between nashville and knoxville (up on the plateau). The Smokies are awesome...I've only got to hike and horseback ride up there a couple of times, but I just fall in love with it every time I do. The countryside is still pretty unspoiled where I live, and I had out there every time I can.

Simple. Simple. Simple...and may I always be that way. Cool! Glad you said hello.

Monk (Mark)

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RubyHypatia — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 08:26:00 -0000

Studying my bible is what led me to become an agnostic after decades of being a chistian. It's amazing how much of the bible I glossed over while still a believer. I still study my bible and believe in the documentary hypothesis. BTW, you don't have to be a christian in order to show compassion to one in need.

Re: You really need to read the Bible! - Letters to the Webmaster

freethinker05 — Sun, 23 Sep 2007 20:59:00 -0000

Heh Monk, I just read your comments, and checked out your provile. Seems we have some things in common as we both live in tennessee. (I live approx. 35 miles straight-up North of Nashville, apprx. 5 miles from Ky.line.) I also love the outdoors and living a simple life. If I ever get things in order, I'd love to move close to the Smokie Mountians; me and the family vacation there at least twice a year. Peace, Roger

Re: You really need to read the Bible! - Letters to the Webmaster

.:webmaster:. — Sun, 23 Sep 2007 20:12:00 -0000

Hmm.

Tempting.

Re: You really need to read the Bible! - Letters to the Webmaster

clair — Sun, 23 Sep 2007 18:10:00 -0000

Now, on to the real question at hand. Does our webmaster deserve to be tied to a chair? Probably. But not to have someone put him in a boredom coma. Please no, not the soul-twisting thee and thou manual. It would be a delicous piece of porn called "OUR EX-CHRISTIAN WEBMASTER, MASTER OF ALL, MASTER OF KINK" and the cover will show D looking worried from his place of bondage. Standing to each side will be beautiful but angry (school mistress, nurse, and of course at least one she-devil) women. What thinkest thou?

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Ricky — Sun, 23 Sep 2007 10:15:00 -0000

As was stated in an above comment, it's sad that Sapphire won't lower herself to debate with us. It shows that she has very little evidence to use in a debate. A good debater would jump at the opportunity to argue with others and prove them wrong, but instead, Sapphire heads on her way... I think she's scared that she'll turn against Christianity if she even reads our arguments.

But part of the post made me pretty happy in a way. Sapphire said, "And I would bet that if someone on the street, dirty, drug user, drunk, sinner whatever...if they asked for some thing to eat, a true christian would show their love and the love of their God by giving them something to eat." Seeing the success rate of beggars on the street in person, I can tell you that a good 95% of people in the U.S., and probably around the world, are not "true Christians".

Re: You really need to read the Bible! - Letters to the Webmaster

JT Finally Free — Sun, 23 Sep 2007 09:52:00 -0000

LOL Funny Letter and Great Response WM! She obviously doesn't realize that Former Christians on this site have poured millions and millions of wasted hours into that man-made primitive book! I just love how she wants to tie you up! !! LOL...

Re: You really need to read the Bible! - Letters to the Webmaster

AtheistToothFairy — Sun, 23 Sep 2007 01:52:00 -0000

Nekkid Atheist wrote:
"There is some truth in the bible. I mean between the covers it’s possible to find truth... The table of contents is usually spot on"
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Hey Nekkid,
First off you gave me a good laugh!!

Secondly, could you let me know if I have an antique bible here, as the copyright date in my bible, say's "33AD (+/- 6 years)".

Gosh, I wonder if mine was written by the great jebus himself while ascending back to heaven on a son-beam. I figure that I have the only original now, but on the last page it clearly states....
"Please disregard all previous pages"

Curious (and maybe $$$rich$$$) ATF

Re: You really need to read the Bible! - Letters to the Webmaster

Onanite — Sun, 23 Sep 2007 00:54:00 -0000

I have read the Bible from cover to cover three times, and I can tell you for certain it is a man made book.

There are just so many error in it, it is unthinkable to me that someone who is not an imbecile would see that the Bible is a joke.

I suggest the author of this post actually does what he/she says and read the Bible. Then come back to us and confess your atheism.

Onanite

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Nekkid Atheist — Sun, 23 Sep 2007 00:39:00 -0000

There is some truth in the bible. I mean between the covers it’s possible to find truth. I cite the following. The table of contents is usually spot on, and the Publisher’s page has some useful information in it as well. See one need not read the whole bible to find truth.

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AtheistToothFairy — Sat, 22 Sep 2007 19:35:00 -0000

Jeanne wrote:
"Maybe the name of this website should be changed to something completely cryptical because the word "exChristian" seems to attract well meaning Christian fanatics like a magnet"
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Jeanne,

While that might keep out the surfers who happen in here, it wouldn't rid of us those pet-trolls we keep around to stir up trouble, with their dumb remarks.

I think we also owe it to humanity to educate those xtians who happen upon our site, and who still have a functioning brain to reason with.

>.... their WOG says that it is WE that are blind and that because of our hard hearts HE made it that way. Thus, to argue with them is as vain as talking to a door.

Yes Jeanne, xtians have as many excuses to justify their beliefs/actions, as their god has angels. Sometimes I think the true function of god's angels, is for each to invent one new excuse for xtians to use to bolster their case. I mean, these angels sure aren't doing anything else down here on earth to **prove** god's existence, so it makes sense they would get this honorable 'excuse' job, right.

I'm thinking this xtain 'excuse' topic would make a find RANT to write one day for our site, hmmmmmmm.

Perhaps we could start it off with a few typical xtian excuses and then all of us add to it to make a huge posted list of them. Could be interesting I think?

> I told her we weren't going anywhere and simply said "I am an ex-Christian". She replied, "You can't do that can you?" I sweetly smiled and said "Yes, you can."

Isn't it amazing how these stubborn xtians can't fathom that someone could give up their faith. To tell them so, is much like telling them you just got back from a trip to the moon.
To them, the bible fable is their reality and we exist outside that fictional reality.

Blows the mind how naive some living human beings in these modern times, can be huh.

ATF

Re: You really need to read the Bible! - Letters to the Webmaster

Jeanne — Sat, 22 Sep 2007 09:20:00 -0000

Maybe the name of this website should be changed to something completely cryptical because the word "exChristian" seems to attract well meaning Christian fanatics like a magnet.

She reminds me a little of my sister who is a literal Jesus freak. I discarded my faith about 1 1/2 years ago and wrote her a nice letter about why and hoped that would suffice knowing "judgement day" would come sooner or later). She didn't try to argue too much until she got together with me face to face. Then she let me know that she was grieving for me and that it was her Christian duty to let me know I was going to burn in hell. I told her "thank you very much" and that since I didn't believe in hell I wasn't too worried about her prediction that I was going to spend forever and a day there. Then she started in on Adam and Eve and free will and as the veins started to bulge out of her forehead I tried to reason with her but to no avail. She reminded me why I do my best to avoid people who are so blind they couldn't see the truth if it hit them in the face -- their WOG says that it is WE that are blind and that because of our hard hearts HE made it that way. Thus, to argue with them is as vain as talking to a door.

I happened to meet up with an old church going acquaintance who inquired where we were now going to church. I told her we weren't going anywhere and simply said "I am an ex-Christian". She replied, "You can't do that can you?" I sweetly smiled and said "Yes, you can."

They just don't get it. Miss Whats-her-name may probably never get it...unless she sees the light like we have. Maybe we should all take a moment to pause, maybe close our eyes, and wish for her to find the real truth.

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Nightmare — Sat, 22 Sep 2007 05:17:00 -0000

Joy, another idiot xian that assumes - without knowing shit about us - that we haven't read her favorite "holy" masturbatory aid ever in our lives.

I suppose she'll be using the "you weren't real Christians} bullshit line when she comes back.

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chad — Sat, 22 Sep 2007 02:42:00 -0000

Saphire doesn't seem to realize that a primary pillar of this website is depth with respect to Biblical knowledge and understanding. More ex-christians, agnostics, and atheists have been produced through serious and thorough study of the scriptures than by a lack of biblical literacy. That is to say, knowledge of the Bible itself is the greatest enemy to "keeping the faith." Saphire might note that this fact runs completely contrary to her "deconversion-by-biblical-ignorance" thesis.

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Astreja — Sat, 22 Sep 2007 01:06:00 -0000

Saphire, you're not telling the whole truth to our studio audience.

You don't want us to "know and understand" the Bible.

You want us to know, understand and believe it. You will not concede that we do know it until we start agreeing with you.

In other words... Probably never.

Re: You really need to read the Bible! - Letters to the Webmaster

IAm_Lucifer — Fri, 21 Sep 2007 22:36:00 -0000

I wish Saphire came back and read what other people have responded.

As for myself, I was Agnostic until I decided to read the bible, cover to cover. After that, I became without any doubt what so ever, 100% Atheist.

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AtheistToothFairy — Fri, 21 Sep 2007 21:30:00 -0000

Anonymous wrote:
"I see little value in arguing with Christians over the errors and contradictions of the Bible, because they take it as the word of their god on faith"
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Anon,
It would be nice if you had picked a name for yourself..hint hint.

While you're correct that most xtians believe every word of the bible comes directly from god, the purpose of showing contradictions is to show them that their word-of-god contains mistakes and mis-information. A perfect god wouldn't allow such mistakes, if he was real and the bible is his ONLY words to us humans.

For some stubborn xtians, showing the bible is errant is the ONLY argument they will even listen to, as any argument outside the bible writings mean nothing to them. In fact, the latter is usually attributed to the devil talking to them, trying to pull them over to his side.

So I can't agree with you that it's a waste of time to argue the bible using the bible itself, as sometimes that is the only means to reach their minds.

ATF

Re: You really need to read the Bible! - Letters to the Webmaster

Anonymous — Fri, 21 Sep 2007 21:11:00 -0000

I am an atheist and a former Christian. I know the Bible very well, I studied it in high school and on my own since then. My chief argument against god's existence is that the burden of proof demanded of believers cannot be met.

I see little value in arguing with Christians over the errors and contradictions of the Bible, because they take it as the word of their god on faith.

Many atheists do know the Bible well, in fact, it is our Biblical literacy that helped move us to deconversion.

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AtheistToothFairy — Fri, 21 Sep 2007 16:04:00 -0000

Saphire said:
"Look up at the sky, and try to imagine how big the universe is...and mabe you'll see that the supernatural seeming parts of the Bible, just might be true"
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Saphire,

When I was a believer, the awe of the vastness of space, along with the countless galaxies that exist, made me sit-in-wonder of the power of this god. I never questioned why he would have made such a HUGE universe, but saw it as merely an indicator of his great vision and abilities etc..

Today though, instead of seeing the huge universe and it's god in that old way of thinking, it now raises a new question in my mind.

Most xtians suppose that we humans are at least the first creation of the human type, as the bible infers as much to most xtians. Heck, bible believers throughout most of xtian history believed the earth was the center of the universe....No ego involved there at all in their reasoning skills.

The great informing bible doesn't say if it's god planted humans and other life forms across the many galaxies we know about, but if he did, we now know such life forms would be most likely rare and greatly spaced apart. There just aren't that many earth type planets that could sustain human life, from what we've gathered from knowledge our own galaxy to date.

So whether we assume god only made humans on earth, or we assume he created a few other earths with humans scattered across those trillions of light years of space, we are left with an obvious question.

Why would this god have gone through the trouble to create thousands upon thousands of huge complex galaxies, billions of 'suns' with a probable amount of countless planets orbiting them.

If god's main intent was to make humans after those angels, then why the overkill in the decoration department of the universe. The bible tends to imply that all those stars were painted onto a firmament in the sky and that besides something to light up the night sky, it's where god and his angels lived.

Obvioulsy, he had no human need to create all those galaxies that we can only now see today with our modern telescopes, but were unaware of till this past century.
Do such far away galaxies serve any purpose to humans on earth?
Do those far away galaxies's stars plot the course of our lives, as astrologers tend to believe?

Truly god could have easily gotten away with putting the earth closer to the center of the milky-way galaxy, rather than in the suburbs of one of it's arms.
The sky would still have had plenty of night lights for your god to say was his abode.

God could have saved himself a whole lot of energy by making just one big galaxy for his human earth, rather than thousands of huge galaxies that are too far removed from our own galaxy to be of any useful value to us lowly humans.

What your god claims to have done in creating this *overly* vast universe, would compare to humans using the power of an Atom bomb to kill a pesky mosquito.
Talk about your overkill design methods of engineering.

All those superfluous extra galaxies out there neither helped out nor hindered in god's creation of his tiny earth, along with some biological life forms for his pleasure and/or to appease him with their bowing down to his 'glory'.

If one wishes to speculate that all these extra galaxies were made just to have room-for-expansion of future humans, then why didn't god make most planets able to sustain life, instead of the reverse. What value do dead planets have, other than to take up space.
What value do inhospitable gaseous planets serve, other than to look pretty to our eye's.

No, if there was a real god out there who created this universe for the purpose of creating life forms, he would surely have planned things out better and we'd see far more many planets that could sustain life than we do now.

What we see now is certainly more proof to an happenstance creation, rather than a god planned one !!!!

ATF

Re: You really need to read the Bible! - Letters to the Webmaster

Aspentroll — Fri, 21 Sep 2007 14:56:00 -0000

Hi Saphire:

I know you're out there lurking to see how well your post went over with the heathens on this
site. If posting here made you feel good, hair on ya, babe.
Your presence here also made me feel good to know that you and what you believe are just one more reason for giving up religion of any type. You are exactly what the "fundies" need to promote their views on the
the people like you who are so badly brainwashed.
Carry on babe, the rapture is nearly upon us and we can grab all the good stuff left behind.;-)