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Re: I left god for good - Testimonies of Ex-Christians

GLBT Advocate — Fri, 07 Dec 2007 17:10:00 -0000

ANONYMOUS CHRISTIAN......."America has tried the atheist lifestyle. It's time to bring the nation back to Christ."

That's a joke. You christians still have quiet a bit of power in this nation unfortunately. My people are constantly fighting against the oppression and persecution that you bring on us who are part of the GLBT community.

We still do not have equal rights for the GLBT Community, and you right winged assholes continue to interfere in the private lives of others by banning same sex marriage.

As far as your statement, "It's time to bring this nation back to Christ". What you really mean is, "That it's time to enslave this country to "Your values and beliefs". Basically let's turn America into a "Christian Dictatorship".

America is for all people, and not just christians.

IT'S TIME TO MAKE AMERICA A PLACE THAT ALLOWS ALL PEOPLE TO HAVE EQUAL RIGHTS, WITHOUT THE FEAR OF HAVING RELIGION SHOVED DOWN OUR THROATS ON A CONSTANT BASIS.

Christians preach against us on a constant basis, however we have shown more love, tolerance, and acceptance of others more than any christian bigot ever has or ever will.

I am confident that the GLBT community will prevail in time. Because we are about "True Love" which does not discriminate against others.

That is why people like myself will one day celebrate our victory against "Right Winged Extremists".

Re: I left god for good - Testimonies of Ex-Christians

Phant — Fri, 07 Dec 2007 16:58:00 -0000

Anonymous Prick...........Look at the morals of children and the stuff on TV. Is it any wonder there are so many young pregnancies, abortions, rap music, teens dressing like charlotons, divorce, money problems, poverty, unemployment, voilence, drugs. These are all SIN. Do you think if God's word was brought into public schools this would be a problem? Do you think if after saying the pledge inthe morning if children could spend 15 minutes saying prayers to God things wouldn't be different? America has tried the atheist lifestyle.

Funny, you claim all of this bad stuff is the result of not having Christ in our schools and a lack of Christ not being in our daily lives.

However, when I look at secular nations such as "Australia, Canada, and Germany" who have hardly any use for God period, they are doing quiet well and are way ahead of America in many ways. Especially their education system.

And they did all without God. Imagine that? I assume you have never been outside of this country.

Re: I left god for good - Testimonies of Ex-Christians

Can't Spell Christ Without Shi — Fri, 07 Dec 2007 16:51:00 -0000

Christonymous chirped... Welcome back to God!

Yep, time to put those shackles back on and be enslaved once again. NOT!!!!

Fundy-'bot...But rest assured God is still with you. He's still overseeing your life and still has a plan for you. This moment of your life that you feel you don't believe is PART of the plan.

Oh yes, here we go with that "GRAND PLAN" that god supposedly has laid out for me. I would rank that comment in the "Top 5" things that christians like to say "That never come true".

God has a plan, I use to hear that all of the time, however nobody can ever tell me what that plan is. It seems god has a communication problem and can't tell me either.

Here is a "Realistic" plan:

1) Go to school and get a career.
2) Make lots of money.
3) Get married.
4) Buy a house and some land.

Now that is a realistic plan, however I'm sure some fundy will tell me that is not God's "so called perfect plan".

You would think that these christians would give up considering that none of their so called "Prophecies" never come true on this site. Nobody ever returns to god on here, and christians continue to give nothing but more than worthless "Lip Service" (Cheap Talk with no power or action behind it).

I have become very bored with these christians. There constant bible quoting present no challenge to me.

Their plan of action on this site has failed, so when all else fails try to scare us with threats of hell and eternal damnation. Try to scare us non-believers into the kingdom instead. Which never works of course.

Once again it is time for God to have a recall on his defective products called "Christians".

However, I do have to christians credit for one thing that they have truly been able to prove on this site. Once you give up your free will to God, and make him your master, you truly become stupid and you lose all common sense.

Thank you dear christians for continuing to support our beliefs about your cult. Thanks also for reminding us why we left in the first place.

Re: I left god for good - Testimonies of Ex-Christians

stronger now — Fri, 07 Dec 2007 16:11:00 -0000

Christonymous,(thanks for that lovely term Boom')

I know what made me stronger. It had nothing to do with your imaginary friend.

Re: I left god for good - Testimonies of Ex-Christians

boomSLANG — Fri, 07 Dec 2007 15:12:00 -0000

Christonymous chirped... Welcome back to God!

When donkeys fly!...oh wait, they already "talk", right?

Christonymous...Even though you feel you have left him, understand He hasn't left you.

Yes, I understand... "He" hasn't "left" me.....because "He" was never there in the first place---"He" doesn't exist.

Fundonymous...Trouble times are the definition of what will make you feel that God is not in your heart and life.

No, not "troubled times"---zero convincing evidence.

Fundy-'bot...But rest assured God is still with you. He's still overseeing your life and still has a plan for you. This moment of your life that you feel you don't believe is PART of the plan.

Listen closely---if this "God" still "has a plan" for me, then quess what?.... my "freewill" is a complete illusion. Further, if my doubting it's existence was part of "His plan"---remember, a plan in which I evidently have no control---then my RETURNING to this "God" is part of "His PLAN" too, thus, it's out of my control; I can do nothing.

See, Anony? See how idiotic your religious philosophies are?

May logic find you.

Re: I left god for good - Testimonies of Ex-Christians

Anonymous — Fri, 07 Dec 2007 10:52:00 -0000

Well I want to be the first to tell you. Welcome back to God! Even though you feel you have left him, understand He hasn't left you. Trouble times are the definition of what will make you feel that God is not in your heart and life. But rest assured God is still with you. He's still overseeing your life and still has a plan for you. This moment of your life that you feel you don't believe is PART of the plan. In the end it will make you stronger and make your love for Jesus even deeper. The world has become a crazy place because of the removal of God from daily life. Look at the morals of children and the stuff on TV. Is it any wonder there are so many young pregnancies, abortions, rap music, teens dressing like charlotons, divorce, money problems, poverty, unemployment, voilence, drugs. These are all SIN. Do you think if God's word was brought into public schools this would be a problem? Do you think if after saying the pledge inthe morning if children could spend 15 minutes saying prayers to God things wouldn't be different? America has tried the atheist lifestyle. It's time to bring the nation back to Christ.

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Anonymous — Thu, 06 Dec 2007 08:53:00 -0000

Being gay must be a lot like being a non-believer. I work with a "born-again", "bible thumping", preacher's wife right here in my office. I dare not let her know how I really feel because my employer is a very religious person as well. I can tell that I would ostracized (spelling?) terribly if I let on that I did not believe the same as she does.

Try to be happy being who you are.

Re: I left god for good - Testimonies of Ex-Christians

an ominous — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 20:07:00 -0000

I'm still a believer and always will be.

Your experience sounds awful and I'm sorry your friends weren't your true friends. Condemning you was wrong. Not loving you was wrong. Those qualities are a huge, huge flaw in the church. Not even Christ-like.

I'm not gay, but I can imagine your pain; being treated like this by people you trust hurts regardless.

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.:webmaster:. — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 06:55:00 -0000

Marc will not honor my request to cease posting, and even IP banning is ineffective against him. He is using IP masking of some sort. I've grown weary of his nonsense, and since he obviously a hardcore troll, I will be scouring through and periodically deleting every post he's ever made on this site.

Sorry for any inconvenience. If at all possible, I'd request that no one engage him further. As long as he is getting attention, he is simply driven to respond.

Thanks.

Re: I left god for good - Testimonies of Ex-Christians

Scarecrow — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 03:54:00 -0000

"This is how much He wants all of us to be with Him in the end."

Oh well, that's too bad for God. Seems he has no control over free will of people, and he has lost control of his creation called humans and his other creation called Satan.

He sure as heck doesn't do a good job managing things. That's for sure. Matter as fact he did a terrible job managing the weather in my part of the country this past Summer. My whole entire garden died, because he wouldn't water my plants.

That's what happens when you trust God to take care of everything. You end up with a dead garden.

God must be on strike.

Re: I left god for good - Testimonies of Ex-Christians

Let's be practical — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 03:47:00 -0000

Anonymous Said:
"God is looking for those that want to be like Him..."

Sounds like an "Army Recruiter".

Why would God have to look? Isn't he supposed to be "All Knowing"?

Seems like to me that an "All Knowing God" would already know who he needs. Why would he need to look?

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Astreja — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 03:10:00 -0000

Brainwashed, unwelcome Anonymous: "God is looking for those that want to be like Him..."

Then perhaps you'd better start spamming PlanetDrowningDeities.com instead. I don't see many people here who want to emulate the evil, jealous and thoroughly intolerable god of the Bible.

"We all have the ability to recognize what is good and what is bad."

Yes, and for us Christianity is bad. Go shake the dust off your sandals, or something.

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boomSLANG — Tue, 04 Dec 2007 23:10:00 -0000

The above post is a perfect example of how religious indoctrination enables you to rationalize the irrational, circular, contradictory, abhorant concepts as delineated in the book known as the "Holy Bible".

(a point-by-point response later)

Re: I left god for good - Testimonies of Ex-Christians

boomSLANG — Tue, 04 Dec 2007 18:30:00 -0000

Sorry--that last post was for boomSLANG

Okay, my misunderstanding. I thought that when you said, "I've seen that Ex-Christians are encouraged, but most of what I've read seems to be arguments between Christians and Ex-Christians"[italics added], that it was implicit that you found the latter observation odd, and/or, found it puzzling.

Re: I left god for good - Testimonies of Ex-Christians

Anonymous — Tue, 04 Dec 2007 16:08:00 -0000

Sorry--that last post was for boomSLANG.

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Anonymous — Tue, 04 Dec 2007 16:07:00 -0000

Thackerie, not "clueless as to why there are arguments between Christians, and Ex-christians". I can understand why these arguments exist. I've had some of the same questions that have been posed to the Christians that visit this site. I've learned a lot by visiting here. It's really made me think and try to investigate for myself.

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boomSLANG — Tue, 04 Dec 2007 13:56:00 -0000

Anony...I've seen that Ex-Christians are encouraged, but most of what I've read seems to be arguments between Christians and Ex-Christians.

Interesting---you apparently know enough about this site to say that Ex-christians are encouraged, yet, you'd have us believe that you are clueless as to why there are arguments between Christians, and Ex-christians? Lol. Um, put "two and two" together, lad....or wait, I'll just do it for you.

Hypothesis 1: There are "arguments" on this site for the very same reason that there would be arguments if people barged in to an AA meeting and started promoting Budweiser, "King of beers".

Anony...I was just wondering if you guys (meaning the Ex-Christians or the Christians,for that matter) have any other interests other than arguing with each other.

Me thinks you are being disingenuous. News flash: With the advent of the internet, many people are "on-line" several times a day. The internet is a part of many people's daily lives. So, why would you assume that because people take time to blog, that they have no other interests? Silly.

(And nooo, I'm not "mad", or "upset"...it's just an answer)

Elsa asks...what was the MAIN thing that caused you to leave God? was it the actions of [your] Christian friends?

The main thing for me, was actually reading the bible, as opposed to having people tell me what it "reads". The reality that my Christian friend's behavior was sometimes questionable, was not a contributing factor in the least. The fact that people are not perfect, is not evidence that invisible beings exist; it is only evidence that human beings aren't perfect.

Anything else?

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Thackerie — Tue, 04 Dec 2007 13:55:00 -0000

Anonymous - There's a whole lot more to this site than the blogs on this main page and the testimonies. Register so you can come into the forums and you'll see a vast amount of discussions on myriad topics. "Arguments" with christians are actually pretty rare, even within the "Lion's Den" forum.

Re: I left god for good - Testimonies of Ex-Christians

Anonymous — Tue, 04 Dec 2007 13:00:00 -0000

Thackerie--didn't mean to piss you off. I have read a lot of the posts on this site. So far, most of what I've seen are arguments from both sides--from Christians and from Ex-Christians. I've read a lot of the testimonials as well. I've seen that Ex-Christians are encouraged, but most of what I've read seems to be arguments between Christians and Ex-Christians.

I was just wondering if you guys (meaning the Ex-Christians or the Christians,for that matter) have any other interests other than arguing with each other. I was not trying to talk down to anyone or make anyone upset or mad. Sorry if I did.

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Elsa — Tue, 04 Dec 2007 12:20:00 -0000

Hi there
wondering...what was the MAIN thing that caused you to leave God? was it the actions of you Christian friends?

How long have you been an exchristian?

Re: I left god for good - Testimonies of Ex-Christians

Thackerie — Tue, 04 Dec 2007 11:43:00 -0000

Anonymous: "Just curious, but what do you guys talk about when you don't have Christian to argue with?
This is just a question."

Well, Duh! Why the heck don't you read just a few of the hundreds of pages on this site? Then you wouldn't have to make a fool of yourself by asking dumb questions. This is just an answer. And it's obvious to all but the oblivious.

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Anonymous — Tue, 04 Dec 2007 11:03:00 -0000

Just curious, but what do you guys talk about when you don't have Christian to argue with?
This is just a question.

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.:webmaster:. — Tue, 04 Dec 2007 06:48:00 -0000

I wasn't kidding, Marc.

Get lost.

Re: I left god for good - Testimonies of Ex-Christians

Phant — Tue, 04 Dec 2007 05:20:00 -0000

PASSERBY SAID:

"What can we do, it's his site after all. He can supress free speech and the truth all he wants."

You mean your "Opinion" of what the truth is.

PASSERBY SAID:

"You're absolute right about that...conversions don't come from man. Recognizing that conversions come from God"

If that's true, then it is time for you to leave this site and let God do his work.

You are finished here.

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Jesus Christ — Tue, 04 Dec 2007 00:43:00 -0000

You pathetic loser, you're nothing without me! I know you better than you know yourself. Come home right this instant, or I'll track you down and torture you to death.