What a bunch of suckers or should I say fools this church has collected over the years. There is a sucker born every minute. Pardon the pun. I believe that there are lots of sexual offenders within the churches whatever the denomination.
slingshot
· 3 years ago
They try to "repent of fornication," denying their own sexual urges, then end up attacking the defenseless and sexually assaulting them out of uncontrollable lust, perhaps.
slingshot
· 3 years ago
Down with repentance!!! Screw like rabbits!
madamehel
· 3 years ago
Outside and covered in fur.
freedy
· 3 years ago
"Abstainence makes the priest grow fondler"
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
I was a member of that congregation several years ago. I have NEVER seen Preacher Shifflett alone with a teenage girl. I have never seen him hurt a child. These allegations are being made out of sheer vindictiveness. And he is not a Priest. He is married to a lovely lady and has 3 grown daughters who are devastaded by these accusations. He is a good man who is being trashed by folks who are ENCOURAGING their TEENAGERS TO AMKE UP STORIES!
freeman
· 3 years ago
Anonymous,
What you believe is not necessarily the truth!
You believe only what you wish to believe!
freeman
· 3 years ago
Anonymous,
No one every saw Jeffrey Dahmer have sex with dead bodies and then eating them either! So with your analogy, Dahmer was totally innocent.
Jerry
· 3 years ago
Anonymous wrote: I was a member of that congregation several years ago. I have NEVER seen Preacher Shifflett alone with a teenage girl. I have never seen him hurt a child. These allegations are being made out of sheer vindictiveness. And he is not a Priest. He is married to a lovely lady and has 3 grown daughters who are devastaded by these accusations. He is a good man who is being trashed by folks who are ENCOURAGING their TEENAGERS TO MAKE UP STORIES!
If he is found guilty by a jury of 12, in a court of law, will you still believe that teenagers are making up stories. Yes you will, because any negative goes against your brainwashed belief.
Sorry anonymous, but you have been bamboozeled not only by this preacher, but by society and their silly beliefs as well. Time to give up the imaginary friends and live in truth, and not in fairytales.
freedy
· 3 years ago
Sorry that's "abstinance makes the priest grow fondler" Churches are the best place in the world for peddies.The blind faith, isolation & incestuous cultism fosters this reality.Here in north Texas we had "FOUR" ministers arrested for sexual assault in just one week!This is an epidemic and will continue as long as these cults exist.
slingshot
· 3 years ago
Where in north Texas are you? I live in a suburb of Dallas and there are so many christian churches around here it's ridiculous. I guess the fear of hell will really motivate people to build churches...
That's a good one, by the way, about the priest growing "fondler."
freeman
· 3 years ago
Hey slingshot, The building of churches over here in Fort Worth is what drives our economy! I'd personally rather be in a recession! heehee
boomSLANG
· 3 years ago
Anonym-ass # 7,999 wrote: "I have NEVER seen Preacher Shifflet alone with a teenage girl."
No, you haven't......because if you DID see them, they wouldn't been "alone", now would they? D'oh!!!
God 'less.
slingshot
· 3 years ago
Hey Freeman.
They can't stop building them over here. They've built two along my 4 mile trek to work in the last month or so. I see them all over the place being built. They pop up in no time.
There's a massive mega-church near where I live. The parking lot is not big enough so they have another lot across the street. On Sunday they have POLICE (our tax dollars at work) directing traffic and allowing masses of churchgoers to cross the street. I do mean masses.
I say those christians ought to have an overpass built between the lots and pay for it themselves with all those millions. Or maybe they should have a shuttle service. Nice to know that if I need a cop because I've been mugged the response time will be that much slower on Sunday morning.
freedy
· 3 years ago
Slingshot,I live in southwest Fort Worth. There are churches springing all over the suburbs here,.. far away from anyone that could actually benefit from the services,(food bank,clothes etc),.... These churches are cults and cults need a ..."building fund"....to really financially rape the faithful! Churches are a status symbol and a buffer from the real world.
slingshot
· 3 years ago
Well put freedy.
Some of those churches here are right next to each other, or right across the street. Two different denominations! I wonder if they can hear each other condemning the other to hell...
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Let's get one thing straight, Mr. Shifflett brought this all on himself. He manipulates people, brainwashes them, uses them, and then, gets rid of them. That's been his pattern since I've known him. He does not know God, which is evident by his lack of Scriptual preaching. He followed a preacher named Jack Hyles from Hammond, IN instead of Jesus Christ. He teaches that Christians are just like every other sinner, only they're a saved sinner. . contrary to what the Bible teaches. That way he doesn't look so bad when he makes light of sin from the pulpit! He thinks every Christian is supposed to be like that, but that's just not true. The Bible says that a bishop must be "blameless" he doesn't fit that category, but yet people willingly followed him to his new church named after Jack Hyles' church in IN. Come on people, where's your discernment, on the shelf along with your Bible? The reason people follow him so blindly is because they don't read their own Bible and really have no idea what the Scripture teaches. But, I find that to be true in just about every church. . . . Slingshot you said it right, they "TRY" to repent of fornication, but when and if they truly do repent of it, God will give them victory over that sin! Trying isn't good enough, that sin has to be dead as far as you're concerned. . . never to go back to it. Mr. Shifflett does have a wonderful family, but on many occasions he made light of the fact that the reason he and his wife got along so well is because they didn't spend that much time together! What an example to the members! Well, he sure has given lost folks a reason to blaspheme the name of Christ, as seen in these comments. He'll give an account of all this one day to the final judge of mankind. Wouldn't want to be in his shoes, nor some of yours! I encourage parents everywhere to watch your children closely no matter where you take them.
south2003
· 3 years ago
"He'll give an account of all this one day to the final judge of mankind. Wouldn't want to be in his shoes, nor some of yours!"
Annoy, are you trying to lump us all in with that pedophile? Are you saying that becasuse we don't believe we are vile like that fundie preacher? Well I think that is exactly what you are saying. Luckly, I have a very high self esteem and tolerance for that kind of ignorance. I would not want to be in your shoes with such a stinking thinking. Check yourself deary.
madamehel
· 3 years ago
I wouldn't let anony touch my shoes with a ten foot pole.
boomSLANG
· 3 years ago
Anonym-ass 12:51 PM said:
"Let's get one thing straight, Mr. Shifflett brought this all on himself. He manipulates people, brainwashes them, uses them, and then, get's rid of them."
Nevermind, fart-knocker...I wouldn't expect you to "get it" anyway. Okay, moving on.... you say that Mr. Shifflet "brought this all on himself", eh? Hmmm, how ironic---your "omniscient" deity, Yahweh, also brought on the very problem of "sin", and the whole "redemption" through "salvation" gag.
Y'see, Anon, Biblegod is a wuss-bag.....either that, or he's a complete moron. Why, you ask???.... because, A) He could've simply chosen not to "create evil" to begin with(ref: The Bible)...or B) He could've destroyed "evil" at ANY point in time AFTER he created it...right? RIGHT. Or wait, maybe Biblegod isn't "omnipotent" at all...? or better yet....maybe the whole CONCEPT of "God" is man-made?
Let's see....what's more likely--- a "God" who can "snap" a whole Universe and everything in it into existance, and yet, be utterly foiled by an evil pitch-fork weilding man in a red leotard(yikes!!!).....OR, there are no gods or devils and the Universe is natural, and self-caused. Hmmmm...?
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Wow, I didn't realize that there were so many people out there that saw things in the same way as me. What a reliefe to see that some peole believe in physical scientific evidence over and not a fictional spiritual "being". What a relief!!!!!! P.S. I have never trusted Shifflett and I know that he has mistreated many of teenage boys!!!!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
I am one of the suckers that you're talking about and I am still at Calvary. I have been here for almost 20 years. I accept your "title" and to this day, I can not explain why I did not speak up sooner about the way Mr. Shifflett treated our young people. Well, we are standing up now. There are several other charges that will be coming as other young people are coming forward. It is amazing that people are trying to justify Mr. Shifflett's actions by saying how he "held their hand" or "was there for me and my family". There are over 25 young people that will testify in an open court of his abuse. What about the lives of these teenager's that have been ruined by the actions of this man? I'm so sorry that we didn't try and stop him sooner. We're behind you young people. Thanks for having the courage that the adults don't.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
35 years ago I was a teenager at Ripley Community Church in Ripley, MD where Chuck Shifflett was the Assistant Pastor. He was well loved by many God loving members of our church who belived everything he said. I however saw him for what he really was. He was nothing more than a BULLY who used imtimadation, manipulation, and peer pressure to control the youth and get his ego stroked. Back then I was a 15 year old female who refused to allow him or anyone else to "control" me. I saw through to the real man. I stood up to him and his attempts to make me feel bad about myself and doubt God's love for me. The truth was, I was smarter than he was. It angered him that I expressed my own opinions and asked questions he couldn't answer. He didn't like me becuse I wouldn't blindly follow another human....Especially some Big gummed, plaid suit wearing dumb as a rock redneck.
Now as a 50 year old mother of two All I have to say to Chuck is...Pay backs are hell and it looks like you are on you way to getting yours!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Charles Shifflett, 54, turned himself in to authorities around 9 a.m. Friday after a warrant was issued Thursday for his arrest. He is charged with felonious assault on a 10-year-old girl in 1990.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Daniel J.Magan Sr (former member at Calvary) Shifflett supporter
Some things he forgot to mention.... he dated Shiffletts oldest daughter....he quit Rock of Ages Prison Ministry......... he is no longer ordained.....he is no longer married to his first wife......he is right if you dig a little deeper you will find a soap opera.....birds of a feather....
A new arrest warrant has been filed in the ongoing case of Charles Shifflett, pastor of First Baptist Church of Culpeper, according to the Sheriff’s Office.
Shifflett, 54, has been arrested three times since Jan. 17 on charges of cruelty and injury to children, child endangerment and two counts of indecent liberties with a child.
Sheriff’s Office Sgt. Jim Fox said the most recent warrant was obtained Thursday at 2:11 p.m. and had yet to be served as of that evening.
According to Fox, another woman claiming to be a victim obtained the Class 6 felony warrant for an offense that allegedly occurred between January and March of 1990.
The charge, “unlawfully causing bodily injury with the intent to maim, disfigure, disable or kill,” is one of five other felonies Shifflett faces.
The woman, who was not named, would have been 10 at the time of the offense. She is the third person who has filed citizen complaints with the Culpeper County Magistrate’s Office and has obtained warrants.
Chad Robison, 29, was the first to come forward and claims Shifflett physically and sexually abused him while he was a student at the school. Liz Bailey, 35, also a former student, obtained a warrant about 10 days after Robison for charges of sexual abuse against Shifflett.
The charges stem from incidents that allegedly occurred at Calvary Baptist Church, where Shifflett was the former pastor. The church also had a K-12 school where Shifflett was principal.
For all felonious charges, Shifflett faces up to 25 years in prison, five years in jail or a fine up to $12,500.
More than 10 churchgoers, including two young mothers with babies and a Town Council candidate, crowded into the Culpeper County Magistrate’s Office Friday morning in a show of support for Charles Shifflett, pastor at First Baptist Church of Culpeper.
Shifflett, 54, turned himself in to authorities around 9 a.m. Friday after a warrant was issued Thursday for his arrest. He is charged with felonious assault on a 10-year-old girl in 1990.
Shifflett’s latest detainment marked the fourth time in a month that he has been arrested on charges of child injury, endangerment and indecent liberties.
Handcuffed and dressed in a short-sleeved white shirt, Shifflett appeared in General District Court around 11 a.m. Friday, and was released from jail after noon on a $2,500 secured bond.
“I’m out,” said Shifflett, departing the magistrate’s office with his wife, Janice, and the group of supporters at his side. “No comment,” he said of the ongoing investigation against him. “No ma’am.”
Mrs. Shifflett also had no comment. “I’m not going to say anything,” she said.
Tom Reese, a Culpeper auctioneer running for Town Council in the May election, put up the money for Shifflett’s release and said he also posted the $2,000 bond the first time Shifflett was arrested.
Reese, 76, said he is a 19-year member of Shifflett’s two congregations and a trustee at First Baptist. Reese, former mayor of Remington, said he is “100 percent sure” of “Preacher’s” innocence.
“Why would somebody wait 26 years, 20 years, 16 years to come forward with this?” Reese said of the pending charges filed against Shifflett by three former students at Calvary Baptist Academy, located next to Calvary Baptist Church, where Shifflett formerly served as pastor.
“I don’t think he did anything wrong,” Reese added. “I know he is not that type of guy.”
Reese tied the recent string of charges to the split of Calvary Baptist Church in November, when Shifflett resigned as preacher there and started First Baptist. His new church meets at Dominion Skating Center on Sunday mornings and evenings and Wednesday night.
“I think some of the people who split from Calvary are the backbone of this thing,” Reese said.
He added that getting Shifflett out of jail was more important than his own political aspirations.
“If it meant freeing the preacher, I’d rather do that than be on Town Council,” said Reese.
New charges In the new arrest warrant filed Thursday, the alleged victim claimed Shifflett “spanked” her repeatedly during one incident in 1990 when she was 10 and a student at his school.
In her handwritten statement, the now 26-year-old women - whose identity the Star-Exponent has decided to keep anonymous - said Shifflett “called me into his office” to ask about “her sister’s birth control pills.”
“I told him I didn’t know what they were and he told me I was lying. He was also asking me if she was having sex and I told him that I didn’t know and he said I was lying about that. So he told me that I was going to get a spanking. He got a ping pong paddle and started to spank me.”
The alleged victim said she was instructed to “hold my hands together on the edge of the desk” and “if I started to move, made a noise or anything he would hit me harder.”
From his office, the warrant says, they moved into “the main church area where I had to hold the end of a pew. That is when he broke the paddle.”
The woman said she was told “to stand still and don’t move” and when Shifflett returned, “he had a new paddle.” The spanking continued for a “few more minutes,” the woman said, “then it moved into the side hallway where the nurseries were.”
At this point, the woman stated on the arrest warrant, she told Shifflett she had to go to the bathroom, but he refused her permission.
“After a few more minutes, I told him that if I didn’t go I was going to wet myself and he let me go,” she said. “I was hurting so bad at that point that I could barely sit when I got out of the bathroom. He continued until someone came to get him.”
The woman said Shifflett told her “to wash my face and go back to the class and if anyone asked me I just got in trouble and not to tell.”
The alleged victim said she told her father about the reported incident when she got home from school that day: “He looked at my bottom and it was bruised with red marks that looked like blood. He almost took me to the hospital.”
After that, she said, she did not return to Calvary Baptist Academy and her father enrolled her in public school.
“And now that this has come back up I have nightmares about it and can’t sleep,” the woman said, concluding her written statement.
Shifflett is scheduled to appear at a hearing April 4 at 9 a.m. in Juvenile and Domestic Relations Court. More charges in the ongoing investigation are expected, officials say.
Background:
In October, the Culpeper County Sheriff’s Office began an investigation of Shifflett, prompted by a church member coming forward with concerns of how the school was run.
- Three of his subsequent four jail bookings resulted from arrest warrants obtained by former students Chad Robison, 29, Liz Bailey, 35 and the woman who filed her citizen complaint through the magistrate’s office Thursday.
- Robison claims Shifflett sexually and physically abused him while he was a student at the school. Bailey obtained a warrant about 10 days after Robinson on charges of sexual abuse against Shifflett.
Dave8
· 3 years ago
Religion seems to have been the platform Shifflett was able to stand on, in order to conduct his mass love sermons to the children. Once again, ignorance and even in the face of direct knowlege, this predator was allowed to continue, because parents didn't want to rock the boat of god. Parents, who can't protect their children, because of their own personal shortcomings, and ignorance should be led to the court room to explain themselves as well as Shifflett.
Religious leaders, appeal to god to absolve them of the things that are abhorrent to anyone with a modicum of moral decency. The status quo will remain, until religious leaders, their doctrine of hate, and the parents who push their children into indoctrination in the early years of their life are held legally accountable for their actions.
Ironic though, as much as I detest Shiffletts' actions, I don't think that an eternity in hell would be justifiable, if hell were real as portrayed by christianity. However, it appears that god has no problem with throwing him in the ol' lake of fire and throwing away the key, what a role model. I can see where Shifflett may have had a problem with a role model figure.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
I too was a teenager during the early/mid seventies when Chuck Shifflett was the associate pastor/youth minister at Ripley Community Church...I agree that Chuck was a "hyper" youth minister, but he was never the monster that people are portraying him to be...we had some great youth activities during that time. I used to stay at his home on several occasions as did many of the youth and not once did any "fornication" or "abuse" occur by the hands of this man...It seems awful strange that these allegations are 16+ years old...like the 10 year old girl whos father "almost" took her to the hospital after witnessing her bruised behind...c'mon...if I witnessed my daughters abuse by the hands of another, I wouldn't wait 16+ years to prosecute...actually, I would make a beeline to the man the same day!...as Pastor Shifflett has said..."HATE"...it's all hate!...wake up people! the world is full of liars and people who thrive on those lies...
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
as a person that has known Chuck Shifflett for over 20 years, he has a differnt idea of Christianity than most do. He has always had a fondness for women, married and unmarried. I'm not supprised of the charges against him as some of my family as sent their children to his school. He was very careful, as most predetors are, to single out the ones that he thought he could abuse. He has said openly from his pulpit that the woman he is married to is not the one he wanted, and did this with his wife sitting there. I'm sure this made her feel real good. As far as a education went. Some cannot read well as he had them splitting wood for himself and the older women in the church instead of going to classes. I thought this kind of work was a after school project, but for him it was not. I also know many good people that have left his church, including his own brother. Why did his brother leave? Because of how the children was treated. Even some of the former workers in his school have left and are now homeschooling their children. Sorry to say, his actions and the resulting publicity in the local papers, along with his court trial, will set Christianity back 50 years in Culpeper. As for the People in some of the post that don't believe in God, one even said there is no evidence to support that. I would suggest you looking at some of the 40 + thousand doc's. that are in museums that are preserved from 1000's of years ago. It is overwelming the evidence. There have been more buildings built, songs written, money given, lives changed as the result of one man who never traveled more than 200 miles from his birth place, only had a few friends, was unjustly tried and killed, and rose from the dead, than anyone in history. You will ask how do you know he rose from the dead? Dont you believe the unbelievers of his day would have produced his dead body to disprove the Christians, if they had it. They could not because he was see of over 500 people at once. I just hope this ordeal of Shifflettolgy will fade away. We all will get our just reward. Whatsoever a man sowth, that shall he also reap.
Dave8
· 3 years ago
Anonymous: "It seems awful strange that these allegations are 16+ years old...like the 10 year old girl whos father "almost" took her to the hospital after witnessing her bruised behind...c'mon...if I witnessed my daughters abuse by the hands of another, I wouldn't wait 16+ years to prosecute...actually, I would make a beeline to the man the same day!"
Many children who are abused, are ashamed, embarassed, or in shock and don't know what to do when they are young. Religion that preaches that people are depraved and fallen in sin, see themselves as naturally defective and at times deserving of the abuse they recieve. I know, sounds strange, however, abused children have common characteristics, sometimes aloof, sluggish, seemingly disconnected with their environment. When they finally come out of their state of shock over the years of psychological repression, they start the healing process, which starts out with anger. The victims, finally realized they were lied to, and were deserving of more than abuse, they finally learned that they were naturally valuable, and not defective by original sin. They finally accepted their self unconditionally, and dropped the religious baggage of sin and self abuse.
Anonymous 2/19/2006 8:59 PM: "As for the People in some of the post that don't believe in God, one even said there is no evidence to support that. I would suggest you looking at some of the 40 + thousand doc's. that are in museums that are preserved from 1000's of years ago."
Not one of those documents are signed by a Jesus. Many of those documents deny the divinity of Jesus. And, just because there is a lot of people who wrote about what they thought about, doesn't make it factually valid. There are over 1,860,000 web pages that have Santa Clause referenced, does that mean Santa Clause is more real that Jesus.
Anonymous: "It is overwelming the evidence."
Let see.
Anonymous: "There have been more buildings built, songs written, money given, lives changed as the result of one man who never traveled more than 200 miles from his birth place, only had a few friends, was unjustly tried and killed, and rose from the dead, than anyone in history."
This theoretical man, was only known for a short period of his life, the few years in his childhood and the last three years, per anonymous writings in the bible. The old testament, never mentions the name "Jesus", once, or "original sin" or "trinity" for that matter.
Anonymous: "You will ask how do you know he rose from the dead? Dont you believe the unbelievers of his day would have produced his dead body to disprove the Christians, if they had it."
Some would suggest, that there were no writings before mid to late first century CE that mentioned the name Jesus. Hence, if Jesus was a god, he sure didn't make an impact in his time, great enough to be written about. He didn't have one statue erected with his image, or one painting created. There is no archeological evidence for his existence, except the copies of texts that were passed through the generations. However, there were just as many texts that claimed Jesus was just a man, and not divine. If Jesus never existed, then, there obviously wouldn't be a body, or any archaeological evidence, and hence, there isn't.
Anonymous: "They could not because he was see of over 500 people at once."
The accounts of Jesus' resurrection, are based on writings written decades after Jesus was supposed to have lived. Why did it take that long to come up with the information. I mean, if a god died, and was resurrected, one would surmize that it would have made it into at least "one" document at that time. However, there is not "one" document of the era a Jesus was supposed to have lived, that mentions Jesus, at all, to include his resurrection.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
OK all you Calvary Baptist Church liars in Culpeper VA...it's been several days since we've heard from you lying bunch of christians about any new allegations about Pastor Shifflett...you're starting to slow down...I guess you need more time to create more lies about the man huh??...
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
It's amazing that none of the "adults" that have come forward aren't even members of Calvary Baptist Church and haven't been for 10 years or longer. I wonder if these "adults" could be telling the truth? I know that you couldn't even consider that since no doubt he "held your hand" or "was there for you". A lot of things he had done are not against the laws of man, but immoral and against the laws of God. How many women have you comforted Chuck? Apparently, he's been holding a lot more than hands. I know him very well, and if I have to believe the people who've come forward or him, it's a clear joice for me. He's lied so many times that he can't get his story straight now. If you want to know when the investigation started, just ask the investigator. "Chuck" (I will never call him preacher again) said it was started after he left the church. The investigator will tell you that it started several weeks before he left which he says was because of "healt problems". By the way, we have his letter of resignation, signed by him, that gives his reason for leaving. Could this be another lie? Oh no, I forgot, Chuck doesn't lie, everybody else who dares question him is a liar.............
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
It really sounds to me that the Calvary congregation is bitter because Charles Shifflett has moved on to create another church. I wonder if any charges would have been filed if the man had just moved away from the area or had not started the new church at all?? silly christians!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
How many time do we have to tell you that the investigation was started long before he resigned? The state investigator called the Deacons to make them aware of the ongoing investigation. No one at the church has pressed any charges. He got mad and quite when he was confronted about the investigation. Call the investigator and ask for yourself. No one at the church cares about him starting another church. It's a free country and anybody can go to any church they want. I know I don't want to go to a church that has a child abuser as a pastor, Do you? Wait until April when the trial starts and then make up your mind based on the facts and not what you think happened. Where you there? I was.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
It is interesting to read all that has been written about Chuck Shifflett. I could write alot too because I'm angry that this one man can cause so much pain to others. This is about what CHUCK SHIFFLETT did!!!!! Not about when he did it or who found out first. His actions, HIS alone have ,devastated his family and friends. What is this "it's all out of hate" stuff--did chuck do these things because he "hated" these people or do these young people "hate" Chuck for what he did to them? After all he is such a "wonderful & kind" man what reason would anyone have to hate him? I think it is time CHUCK SHIFFLETT took a long hard look at what he has done. Instead of running around druming up supporters with his cheesey smile as if he is running for office---he should be thinking about what HE has done to his family !!! What does Calvary Baptist Church have to do with it---he is no longer pastor there. Why do you call those people liars? What have they done? Those bringing the charges are not even members of that church.
Dave8
· 3 years ago
Anonymous 2/20/2006 3:16 PM: "Wait until April when the trial starts and then make up your mind based on the facts and not what you think happened. Where you there? I was."
Anonymous: "It's a free country and anybody can go to any church they want. I know I don't want to go to a church that has a child abuser as a pastor, Do you?"
Are you suggesting we should take your word, that he is a child abuser? I mean, you were there, right? Why wait until April to make a few observations, based on your statement.
Your point, that we live in a free country, and anyone can go to any church they feel like, may be true. However, the central view here, seems to be, not everyone should be a preacher/pastor, especially if they are a child abuser. It seems though, that Pastor Shifflet, has moved on to another church, after being presented with prior allegations of his 'potential' misconduct.
This may be a free country, and the individual rights of a citizen should be at the forefronts of our minds, however, when a person is openly accused, with written statements submitted to law enforcement, by a group of individuals for misconduct, then the accused is obligated to provide a response. Its how the system works, the pastor is innocent until proven guilty, however, he must respect the law, and respond to the allegations.
This pastor, chose, to move on, and begin anew with another congregation. Anyone, in public service as a leader who is accused of misconduct, should be suspended from their service, with benefits, until they clear their name, up-to a reasonable amount of time is provided to present their case in court.
This pastor, was not suspended from public service, and at this very moment could be continuing to engage in further misconduct. If this pastor would have did the "right" things, and went to court to clear his name, and the charges were found to be part of a personal vendetta against him, then he could have leveraged his legal right to counter-sue for slander, etc.
What is appalling, is that there is a public service leader, accused of child misconduct, who has physical access to children without restraint.
Further, if this pastor if found "guilty" of all charges, he may "still" have the opportunity to "serve" in a pulic service capacity, because being a pastor, isn't federally or state regulated, except for the purposes of tax law. He may be restricted from being exposed to children, etc., but that does not stop him from preaching the words that have inspired him to be who he is today.
Could it be possible, that this pastor's words and belief are part of the problem? If one says, this pastor's actions don't necessarily reflect the word of god, or the christian belief system (pick one of 38,000 christian denominations to choose from), then... why was he a preacher to begin with for so many years, without question. Perhaps, the congregation knew no better their own beliefs, and what this preacher taught.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Many people say "I have known Mr. Shifflett for a few years and he would never do a thing like this" or 'I knew Mr. Shifflett years ago and he is not the type of person that would do a thing like that", but i have known him for more than a few years. I have known him for 14 or 15 years....that is since i was old enough to remember. I was also a member of Calvary and was a member of the school that was there. I have seen both sides of him. I have seen the good that he has done but i have also seen alot more bad. I was thier when he made the boys work for him during the school hours instead of doing their school work. I was their when he made the girls cook and clean during school hours instead of doing their school work...i was one of those girls. I was there when we had cleaning day on tuesday's and had to stay and clean from 3:00 till 6:00 and if we didn't stay and clean we had to pay them $25.00. I was one of those people he liked to put on the spot and down in front of the other teens in our Bible class. I also know his family and I love them to no end. One of his daughters was my teacher for a year and she was great at it, his other daughter was my piano teacher and she taught me well,his wife was one of my teachers in school and she taught me ALOT,and his other daughter was a good friend of mine if i needed help i could ask her and she would willingly help. I love all of his family!! I will continue to pray for his family,but we have to relize that HE HIMSELF brought this on them. I will also continue to pray that justice is served. For all of you who are bringing charges/standing up against him i want you to know i am behind you and want to thank you for doing so.
Dave8
· 3 years ago
Sorry to hear, this pastor has daughters. If this pastor is found guilty of child misconduct, makes one wonder if he engaged in the same activites in his own household.
Dave8
· 3 years ago
One more observation, since it has been alluded that this pastor deliberately sabotaged a few childrens' education.
Religious leader have to control their followers. If they can't, then they run the risk of losing their congregation.
There are many forms of control, one of them, is controlling the basic needs of a follower. How is this accomplished? Basic needs, like food, water, shelter, clothing, etc., require money. Money, requires a job, and typically a good paying job, requires an education. Therefore, religious leaders have found, it beneficial to keep their followers from becoming financially independent, by preventing advanced education.
If a follower states that they "will" get an education, and the family supports the decision, the religious leader will typically suggest a bible college or college that grants degrees that don't promote secular careers, i.e., piano, etc., as its difficult to become financially independent teaching piano lessons, but a piano teacher is great for free labor in church. I am only a few credits shy of a piano performance degree, from a bible college.
Its all about control, religious leaders compete with the economy. Our economic system, rewards people for getting advanced degrees and building this nation. However, religious leaders have a vested interest in preventing their followers from entering degree programs, that are philosophically contrary to religious teachings, i.e., engineering, mathematics, and science based degrees, etc. Its why... the U.S. has more international students enrolled in PhD programs in U.S. Universities, than it has U.S. citizens enrolled.
Religious leaders, at times, take the stance, that they have more right to lead the masses than the "individual" people, themselves, and therefore, block efforts for an individual to enter into society to gain financial independence. Moreover, religious leaders, also block efforts of their followers to climb the ranks within the church as well. Its all about control, and keeping everyone co-dependent on the pastor or religious leader, because without a steady supply of religious followers, a pastor doesn't have a job. And, its a job, and nothing more. Anyone, can pick up a bible, and read, and if they read really closely, they will realize that the bible in many places, just doesn't make sense.
Isaiah 45:7 - I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
This passage doesn't make sense, when a religious person says their god is a just and loving god, but obviously god creates evil according to the bible. Pastors, don't need educated followers, they need people who have no hope to escape poverty or a psychologically/emotionally co-dependent relationship. This pastor, engaged in tactics to control his followers; in any form he felt was appropriate - spanking, etc.
Religious leaders, validate their control levels by asking followers to engage in acts that are contrary to their natural instinct. If a religious leader can corrupt, a childs' conscience, they own them for life, as a child will slip psychologically into into a mentally repressive state of mind.
A child who is in that state of mind, will have a diffucult time trying to focus on education. Furthermore, a child who can not maintain clarity of thought, will have a hard time engaged in a job which requires high levels of awareness, as they will have a psychological ball and chain they carry with them for life. This psychological trauma, further perpetuates dependence on the religious leader/religion, its a continual loop of abuse.
The only escape... education, and it appears that this pastor seemed to deliberately derail each child's ability to gain an education. This isn't too surprising, its common practice with religious leaders who feel they need to "control" people, using religious rhetoric, and direct coercion.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
I agree with Dave8 about Mr. Shifflett still allowed to be out on bond even with 5 felonies against him. I understand that he still has a school in the home of one on his members too. Shouldn't he be suspended from preaching and operating a school at least until this investigation is complete? Where's the Social Services on this one? The school at Calvary closed down because the principal (Mr. Shifflett's son-in-law) wouldn't stop giving the teenage boys to Mr. Shifflett to work even after the investigation broke and was asked by the Deacons not to do so. Sounds to me like Calvary Baptist Church is concerned for the welfare of the children.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Let me say this...if Charles Shifflett had not been arrested for these crimes against children, he probably would have already passed out the Kool-Aid just like Jim Jones did. This man is a MASTER manipulator and I do not doubt for a second that he did in fact commit these terrible crimes. He was my pastor for a year, and I saw him as cruel, bullying, and a downright disgrace! After I received a beating from my ex-husband, Charles Shifflett bailed him out of jail and then turned his back on me and my 2 small children. God will have his way with him, and I will continue to pray for all those who have been hurt by him.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
How did this one man so easily control this group of people for so many years?
I'm sure at one time they all loved and honored the ground he walked on.
Or is this just another case of the blind leading the blind?
Ben
· 3 years ago
anonymous of 10:11 pm said:
Charles Shifflett bailed him out of jail and then turned his back on me and my 2 small children. God will have his way with him, and I will continue to pray for all those who have been hurt by him.
Even after all this has happened to C.S. and your family, it still has not occured to you that just maybe, just maybe, that the religion that this cretin was teaching and leading you people around like puppets could be fraudulent?
To me personally, this leading by example, I would want to burn the G-Damed church down with him in it.
The same thing happened at my parents church, the 56 yr. old preacher was caught by his wife in bed with a 21 yr. old woman, they just got a new preacher, no big deal, everybody just follows the wrong spirit once in a while.
It has nothing to do with the religion, god loves everybody, god is the same, yesterday, today, tomorrow.
Lets all join hands and sing all together now...cume bye ya my friends...cume bye ya.
I really just do not get it, how you nutjobs are just willing to forgive and dismiss any crime, fraud, scandal, rape, molestation, perversion, embezzelment, adultry, sodomy, crimes of passion, crimes against nature, the full gambit of whatever the fool preacher gets up and preaches against.
What it is, is that the preachers have this forgive the sinner sewn into the minds of his sheeple, this way should he, himself ever forbid get caught, his sheep will aways stand by him, ready to be forgiven, or bailed out, or lick his wounds and ass.
The more that I delve into the fraud of religion and jesus and preachers, the sicker it gets, I just do not know how much longer I can put up with this shit, this shit reaches way beyond sick, it is a mental psychosis, unimpenetrable by any amount of common sense or logic.
I've been hunting the right magical words for over 5 years to try to awaken you brainwahed christians up, it's now beyond words, there's a chemical imbalance thats it, there's this invisible force called god, that only preachers have complete control of, that is poluting your minds, it's going right through your skull into the jack-ass nerve receptors, and once they get a harness on your brain, the preachers have complete control over you, you people are rendered completely brainless, spineless, wayward, zombie cult worshippers followers, lemmings, dolts, you're like sea gulls following a shrimp boat.
I would have never believed that adults were that sick, when I was just a young boy, religions are beyond childhood insanity, it's mentally induced complete mind domination, beyond the receivers own ability to recognize it, mind fog, deception, trickery, well that explains the daily news, and why the world is so screwed up and the masses of total insanity going rampant, christians are like rats on a sinking ship, except they do not want off, and leave their preacher.
How can a sane god allow religions to be like this?
PRY4JSTC
· 3 years ago
I would like someone to share with me the reason he left the church in Maryland....I know shifty shifflett as he is know to some of my family, others think he is sharing the throne with God..I have family memebers on both sides of this sick situation, Some have been abused and some still follower this person! I have heard some that say they would do his time in prison if they could.I've witnessed his fancy for young girls and how he only picks the kids that he knows that he knows that he has the parents totally fooled. Sad, that's all it is. The diploma they get is worthless everywhere but Indiana and they aren't educated enough to pass a GED.What is even worse that he still stands at a pulpit taking money from the elderly and convincing them that he is a man of God and alot of his followers he has had really close relations with including one of the victims mama,She has choosen him over her own blood and school carries on at a teachers house as if nothing has gone own . these poor children 15 or more years from now they will have their own stories. Shifflett's wife does seem to be a sweet person but if she knows of his actions then she is just as quilty as he is! What really gets me is these people that follow shifflett and think they know him don't they know you really never know anyone. How many long time marriages have ended cause of affairs,even killing of a spouse by someone that they thought they knew. There is more to come from the victims of shifflett and the sad part is some will still follow him no matter what the evidence proves. I'll give it to him he's a very maliputive person that has alot of people under his spell and sad to say some are my very own family
Stand Up For Right
· 3 years ago
I have no evidence in Charles Shifflett's character to suggest he would do the things of which he is accused. I knew him very well from age 14 to age 21. One thing I do know is that he promoted education. He was my teacher. He is a simple country man, yet he wanted more for my generation than than his received. Yes, he promoted hard work, but he also promoted thinking and studying. Did he pull the boys from school? Yes, but it was generally shceduled, as was classwork. His daughters are not ignorant; I am not ignorant. I can dot my "i's" and cross my "t's". I speak without dropping my "ing's". I am educated enough to know that a Pastor with an agenda for "acquiring a building fund" would not try to snag the undeducated, underpaid blue collar man for his 10% when he could have more out of an aducated well paid professional. I am also smart enough to weigh the evidence and take into account the credibility of his accusers. Are they stable people? Are they loving Christians, or haters? Are they street smart brave individuals who stand up for themselves, or are they cowering wall flowers? If they were one thing then, how are they another now? Were their parents gossip mongers at the time of the alleged offenses? Or were they peaceful people? Those who were unhappy, gossipy people would have certainly jumped at the chance to point a finger. They would also like to have a reason or person (other than themselves) to blame for their teenagers troubled lives. I do not know Charles Shifflett now, maybe I did not know him then as well as I thought I did. I do, however know myself. I am a better person because of his influence and the influence of many in his congregation. I am also above using the misfortune of others, the accused or the accuser, to promote my belief or disbelief. I am above cursing and suggestive talk on a blog that will most likely be read by Christians. I am educated enough to that not only can I read people's words, but also their hatred and selfish agenda hidden within thier words. I am humble enough to know that,"There but the grace of God (who was brought into my life by Charles Shifflett) go I"... May you all grow up and play fair. Remember, this is not a story or a movie. All of the people involved are real, with real feelings. Whether they feel abused, accused, deceived or gullible, they do not need the salt of your angry words rubbed into their wounds.
.:webmaster:.
· 3 years ago
Culpeper minister facing new charges March 8, 2006 12:50 am
Three more counts of child endangerment have been filed against a Culpeper minister who was already facing five similar charges.
Charles V. Shifflett, 54, was arrested Monday afternoon and released yesterday on $5,000 bond.
Two of the new charges were filed by Woodrow W. Leake III, who attended Cavalry Baptist Academy when Shifflett was the headmaster. The other was filed as part of an ongoing investigation by the Culpeper County Sheriff's Office.
According to court documents, Leake accuses Shifflett of mistreatment by paddling him in the fall of 1986 and forcing him to help cut and split wood as part of after-school activities from the fall of 1990 until 1992.
Leake's statement alleges that the split wood was then sold to help pay the salaries of Shifflett, who also was pastor of Calvary Baptist Church at the time, and academy teachers.
Leake also alleges that Shifflett "whipped" him with a 2-foot-long, 2-inch-thick and 4-inch-wide paddle after the student "back-talked a teacher five times."
Leake's age at the time of each alleged offense is not given on the court documents.
The third count, filed by sheriff's investigators, lists neither the name of the victim nor details of the alleged crime, which is said to have occurred in the fall of 1999. The victim in that incident was 17 years old at the time, according to a Sheriff's Office spokesman.
Sheriff Lee Hart did not discount the possibility yesterday the parents of the victims involved could be charged for forcing their children to attend the academy. He said such action has already been discussed and might be taken if Shifflett is found guilty.
"We'll have to wait and see what unfolds before moving in that direction," Hart said.
He added that it would be up to Commonwealth's Attorney Gary Close to decide if charges are warranted against any parents.
The Department of Social Services, which could promote such charges, has been involved in the investigations, according to sheriff's Sgt. Vern Fox.
Shifflett, who was pastor at the rural church for 22 years, resigned in November prior to the first charges being filed in January. He is now pastor of an offshoot congregation, the First Baptist Church of Culpeper.
I just can't believe that some people are so brained washed that they still are following this person to no end. They have these kids selling pies, pizza's all to help the so called man that mistreated so many children.Then this weekend they had a tent errected to allow this person to stand up and so call preach the gospel. In my eyes it was the money
PRY4JSTC
· 3 years ago
One more thing ...I can't believe what the sheriff department stated about some parents may be found guilty if they where found to know of the abuse these children recieved from this so called man of God. If this was the intent they should not let the public in on it. I agree, I know one parent that should be held accountable for the wrong her children had to suffer for her stupidity ...Makes you wonder who all else shifflett has in his back pocket! Then they wonder why young people are the way they are. All this evilness is gonna set God's word back so far that no one's gonna want to attend church anymore. I just don't see beating a child and degrading him or her in front of his peers is gonna make him a better person and a better christian. But what really is sad that he has the nerve to state that he doesn't have to say anything to anybody about what he's being accused of cause they all trust him. I wonder if the picture would be the same if these same people would have had this happen to their children or grand children. Well I guess if they believe in him the way they do, they woulden believe them either...Sad Sad world we are bringing our children up in. Please just Pray For Justice!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
I to find it difficult to understand why Shifflett is still allowed to be around children until these accusations are addressed in court. I've known him for 25 years or longer and I can tell you, I have no problem believing that he could do the things of which he is accused. I want the young people to know that we support you and hope that you can find some kind of closure to this period in your life. It will take the grace of God. To Shifflett I want to say, it doesn't matter what the Sheriff does or says, you have been exposed for what you truly are, a wicked and vile man. Culpeper knows now what kind of person you are and maybe some child will be saved the torment that you've caused so many. Judgement day is coming.
PRY4JSTC
· 3 years ago
Does anyone wonder why all of a sudden shifflett is denying being the Principal at Calvary.I have several nieces and nephews that attended that so called school and they all said he was the Principal, then when the Star Exponent interviewed him after attending his sunday morning service he completely denied ever being the principal. I am assuming he has been informed by doing so he will not be as accountable for his deeds. Anybody else catch that? I guess his current followers don't question that either. I'll give every dog his due he's really got these folks brainwashed and some of my family are his biggest followers. What's gonna become of these people that are taking his side over all these then children when you know that they must have witnessed some of this abuse. Just wondering........
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
He can say he what he wants, but the school hand book has him listed as the Superintendent of the school. Doesn't that trump a Principal? This is just another example of what a liar he is. I have another question, is anyone going to ask him about the fact that some of the families who left his first church left because he wouldn't leave the wives alone? There's a list of women that he was "very close" with. I know that I'd really like for him to be my Pastor!X?!!?? I couldn't imagine inviting any one to First Baptist Church or allowing him access to my children now that he has been exposed.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
One thing that bothers me, is the fact that the people who follow him don't even feel the need to discuss any of these charges with him. It's hard to believe that there are people in this world who can be led so easily. I've often wondered how Jim Jones and David Koresh could find people to follow them and now I know. As conviction gets closer, look out for the Kool-Aid!
PRY4JSTC
· 3 years ago
Oh I'm sure that he has tested alot of waters when it comes to the female church members, and I'm sure that my sister inlaw was one of them. Why else would you turn your back on your own children. No one can tell me anything that would shock me when it comes to this so called man. Are you a member of his former church or just a outsider looking in? I'm sure if you are a former member you could tell me some real stories that probably would involve my very on family since over 20 of my relatives went to his former church and now go to his new circus, that's what I call it since they had the service on Sunday under there $10.000 tent.I also wonder what's with the man that keeps posting his bail? He already left the church once over some money ordeal and now he's claiming he's been there for a long time. What do they think people live in a cave and had memory lost, ranks right up there with the excuse shifflett got one of the deacons to read to the memebers stating he was leaving cause of dr's orders.What is wrong with these people ?? I just don't understand where God comes in all of this cause their way of thinking is no matter what you do as long as you go to church you can do as you please as long as you ask for forgiveness and that's why I say he has so many followers.But some day they all are gonna have to answer for each of their evil twisted little sins!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Yes, I was a member of his former church for many years and still am, so I know Mr. Shifflett very well. I was there when Mr. Reese left twice for money reasons and floated around to every church in the community. Where God enters into this situation is this, "Be sure your sins will find you out". God will reveal sins no matter who's they are. Pride goeth before a fall, and that's what tripped Mr. Shifflett. He thought he could treat God's people any way he wanted and get by, but God has shown the community that he protects his own. I know your sister-in-law, and I believe you're right. Don't blame God for this, but praise him for taking care of his own.
Shannon
· 3 years ago
Well, too bad your god didn’t make sure Mr. Shifflett’s sins did find him out BEFORE he used the innocent for his amusement. Basically, your god watched and then outed Mr. Shifflett. Yuck.
Of course, your god has a reasons for everything. I wonder what his reason for pedophilia is?
Dr. Phil
· 3 years ago
You've got to be kidding. God protected his own, uh, he/she/it allowed shitlett to do his sinning, at the expense of gods' other children. God was obviously not taking care of shitlett, nor the other christian victims. Pointing out abuses after the fact, is being master of the obvious.
You get a whole religion that is basically founded on Munchausen syndrome, i.e., feigning pain, illness, damnation at birth, sinful, etc., to get attention, and then have the great invisible sky daddy, act as the caretaker.
If god, is given comfort through praise, glory, etc., for inciting such behavior, and god is pleased, then god is nothing short of manifesting Munchausem by proxy, where the proxy are the spiritually sick children, who are so, so, ill.
Munchausen is not a DSM IV, diagnosis, however, its a sub-type of the factitious disorder;
"FACTITIOUS DISORDER, (of which MUNCHAUSEN SYNDROME is a sub-type), (also called "Adult Munchausen", and "Adult Factitious Disorder") is a formal, DSM-IV mental health diagnosis in which people deliberately exaggerate and/or fabricate and/or induce physical and/or psychological-behavioral-mental health problems in themselves. The primary purpose of this behavior is to gain some form of internal gratification, such as attention, for themselves."
http://www.mbpexpert.com/definition.html
I like that, it has unity. Many religious claims, are affectionately called "faithful" beliefs, and yet, I feel the more appropriate term is "factitious" beliefs.
Either, way, someone is getting some attention out of it. People who require much attention, because of their learned/developed social structure, will lean towards any method in which they can satisfy their social needs - even if they have to go to church or religious settings in order to get these needs met. I will admit, however, that some people go to support and give attention to others, out of a sense of loyalty and care. I won't call them enablers, but some might.
In the end, people go to church, because they have needs, its that simple. Shitlett took advantage of people, who had human needs. An invisible sky daddy, had nothing to do with his actions, well, unless someone is going to suggest they have factual information on god, else, god per the christian tradition, is "fictitious" DSM-IV, NOS 300.19
boomSLANG
· 3 years ago
"..but God has shown the community..." LMAO!
Just this statement ALONE shows the idiocy in such an assertion. Yeah, there's 125 BILLION *known* gallaxies, meaning, we are basically a grain of SAND on a vast beach...yet, Mr. Omnipotent is going to help the "community". HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!
PRY4JSTC
· 3 years ago
In no way do I blame God he is my savior and I know that I will meet him one day and I also know that he has no part in that kind of evilness, the old Devil is working overtime when it involves mistreating helpless children. I meant on their part ,Shifflett and his followers I don't understand how they think that he is a man of God and they are still following him. It's just very sad! I think I know who you are. You must know who I am since you know my sister -inlaw ...
FatherTyme
· 3 years ago
None of this is Shiffletts fault, we can't blame him,, it's Satan's fault. Shifflet is just a vessel to deliver God's Holy word, but Satan somehow sneaked in. All I know is, that my soul was cleansed by this man with the blood and the gift of salvation through the crucifixion of Jesus Christ our perpetual Lord and saviour. Eat my dust Satan!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
I just read in the Free Lance Star that Jimmy Rudd is having a rally on Tuesday morning to support the abused children. I also read that he is the one who first went to the authorities concerning Chuck Shifflett causing an investigation. I just want to say that Jimmy Rudd is a Hero and should be acknowledged as such. Thank God that he did what he did! I'm sure that he will have to face many accusations and character attacks, but I want to let him know what a wonderful and life changing thing he has done. He has helped give courage to those in fear and given a voice to those who otherwise would not have come forth. Thank you Mr. Rudd! To those others who were harmed by Chuck Shifflett, don't be afraid to come forward and stop him once and for all. We're behind you 100%. The world needs to know about the real Chuck Shifflett!
emptycan
· 3 years ago
Is Ben of 3/30/2006 9:19 AM different from Ben (Rationalist)?
PRY4JSTC
· 3 years ago
Accuser plans rally on day Culpeper minister goes to court March 30, 2006 12:50 am By DONNIE JOHNSTON
The initial accuser in the case of a Culpeper minister charged with eight counts of child endangerment got permission Tuesday night to stage a rally in Yowell Meadow Park on the morning of the preacher's arraignment.
Jimmy Rudd, in an emotional and rambling speech, appealed to the Culpeper Parks and Recreation Committee to allow him to hold the rally "to support our abused children."
He added that it was not coincidental that the April 4 rally at 8:30 a.m. is planned an hour before the Rev. Charles Shifflett appears in Juvenile and Domestic Relations Court.
"That's the same time [Shifflett] goes to court," Rudd replied when asked by committee member Chris Snider why a child support rally was being planned at a time when children are typically in school.
Snider hinted that another date might be more appropriate. And while Rudd at first entertained the idea, he then told the committee, "If I have to find a farm on the outskirts of town in a field with cow piles, I will have this rally!"
Rudd said he wanted to hold the rally on the morning of Shifflett's arraignment "to try to get the people to back the kids. I want to show that the county is behind the innocent ones who haven't been heard from yet."
In his statement to the committee, Rudd, a father of six, said that he is "a recovering alcoholic and drug addict" who has been "dry and straight for seven months now."
He added that he went to police in October and confessed to unspecified crimes that could possibly put him in jail for life. He said it was then that he persuaded the sheriff's office to begin its investigation of the 54-year-old Shifflett.
In his major event application--which the town refused to issue before the matter came before the Parks and Recreation Committee--Rudd stated that the maximum attendance at the rally would be 500.
In recommending that the permit be approved, committee Chairwoman Kathleen Snyder said, "It's a good cause and you're well-motivated."
She added that while she didn't anticipate trouble, she would still alert the town police of the rally.
Shifflett was pastor of Calvary Baptist Church during the late 1980s and the early 1990s. He is accused of forcing boys in the church-sanctioned Calvary Baptist Academy to work splitting and selling firewood, and of paddling one girl because she wouldn't admit that her older sister was on birth control pills.
Of the eight counts against the minister, only Rudd's unspecified accusations were brought by the sheriff's office. The other charges were filed by individuals.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
I hope that everyone who reads this will show up at the rally to support abused children. I cannot imagine the emotional pain that has been experienced by every child that has lived in fear of speaking up. Now is the time for the healing process to begin. There are adults that will listen and try to help you. Please come forward and let's stop this man NOW! You've suffered enough.
PRY4JSTC
· 3 years ago
AMEN !!!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
I am amazed at the number of people who have not even asked Mr. Shifflett about these charges but have blindly followed him to his new church. In the article in the Culpeper Star Exponent, he stated that his followers trust him so he doesn't have to address the charges against him. What will they do when all the witnesses give their testimony? The sad thing is that it doesn't matter what the witnessess say, his followers have already made up their minds that they're liars. However, his case will be decided by evidence and not by emotional word. I've known Mr. Shifflett for 25 years or longer and have seen what kind of a person he is. I know some of the witnesses and victims and I have seen Mr. Shifflett lose his temper and scream like a wild man on many occasions. I can honestly say, I'd believe the victims over him any day. I've caught him in many lies myself. Young people, you will have your day in court. Stay strong and don't give up the fight. What you're doing is for the benefit of the others that would be abused by Mr. Shifflett if you didn't come forward. To those who still follow him, I wonder how you will live with yourself when it is proven that you're helping and financing a sexual preditor, thief, whoremonger ,and child abuser. God help you!
PRY4JSTC
· 3 years ago
I wonder why the Star exponent elected not to post the article by Rudd..? They went to see shifflett perform his act and printed the article about the interview with him which was when he stated he was not the principal at calvary, yet they have yet to print a article about the rally for "Abused Children". What's with that? I also wonder what Rudd was speaking of when he stated he had did crimes he could have spent life in prison for..? Where they crimes he committed with shifflett or own his own ? either way I'm glad he broke the silence, it was something that has been along time coming...Pray for Justice!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
As the 4th of April approaches, let us be in prayer that truth will prevail and that people will see once and for all what type of person Mr. Shifflett really is. I personally know that there are other charges coming and many other secrets that will be brought to light. I am still amazed at the pride and arrogance in this individual. If I was accused of what this man has been accused of, I would be ashamed to show my face in Culpeper. However, you can see him tomorrow in front of his "Circus Tent" waving to the crowd with that goofy smile on his face that says "I'm the cat that's going to get by with eating the bird". Well, we'll see won't we? Mr. Shifflett, how do you live with yourself knowing what you've done to your wife, children, and grandchildren? You can blame anyone else you want, but the fact is, you did this yourself. Jimmy Rudd, you're a real Hero!!! Thank you for standing up and being a good Christian!
PRY4JSTC
· 3 years ago
Shifflett focus of embezzlement investigation
Liz Mitchell - Staff Writer Culpeper Star Exponent Tuesday, April 4, 2006
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Charles Shifflett, the pastor at Culpeper Baptist Church who faces several charges of child abuse and neglect, is now being investigated for embezzlement.
“The Sheriff’s Office is investigating embezzlement allegations … and they are taking it in a measured and thorough manner, which is appropriate here,” Commonwealth’s Attorney Gary Close said. “My office is being kept abreast of their investigation, and we have met with potential victims and discussed their concerns. We will make a prosecutorial decision some time in the future.”
Shifflett, 54, faces eight charges of cruelty and injury to children, child endangerment, and indecent liberties with a child and felonious assault of a 10-year-old girl. The alleged physical and sexual abuse occurred nearly 20 years ago at Calvary Baptist Church and its private K-12 school, where Shifflett was pastor at the time.
According to Archie Seale, interim pastor at Calvary Baptist, the Sheriff’s Office obtained church financial records about three weeks ago.
“Yes, they have them right now,” Seale said. “They went back to 1987, boxes and boxes, and they are looking at them.” Seale said the records contain checks, statements and deposit slips documenting financial transactions by the church.
“There seem to be some irregularities there,” Seale said. “So they decided they wanted to come and look at them. They are more qualified to look at them than we are.”
Close said his office has met with church members and discussed their concerns.
“We’ll address them as it appears to be appropriate in the future,” he said.
Sheriff H. Lee Hart said his office began the embezzlement investigation after church members contacted investigators with concerns. However, no search warrants have been conducted on church property.
According to the commonwealth’s attorney’s office, to commit embezzlement the accused must first have been in a trusted position and in possession of the goods of another. But one can also embezzle property that was entrusted or delivered to him.
The Code of Virginia states that proof of embezzlement shall be sufficient to sustain the charge of larceny, which if valued over $200 is punishable by up to 20 years in prison or a $2,500 fine.
If taken one step further, state law also prohibits money laundering, which is punishable by imprisonment for 40 years and/or a fine of $500,000. To commit this offense, the defendant must have conducted a financial transaction with stolen money.
Charges against Shifflett have been trickling in since January. Four warrants have been obtained from individuals claiming to be victims of his abuse.
In Juvenile and Domestic Relations Court today, the date for a preliminary hearing will be set, which will determine if there is probable cause to proceed.
Liz Mitchell can be reached at 825-0771 ext. 110 or emitchell@starexponent.com.
What we knew: Shifflett faces eight charges related to physical and sexual abuse against children for incidents that occurred nearly 20 years ago at Calvary Baptist Church.
The latest: The pastor of First Baptist Church of Culpeper is now being investigated for allegations of embezzlement at his former church.
What’s next: Today, Juvenile and Domestic Relations Court will schedule a preliminary hearing to proceed with Shifflett’s case
PRY4JSTC
· 3 years ago
How many people where shocked by the above article..? Not many I'm sure. Just like me most of you who know shifflett knew this was coming it was just a matter of when. Today is just the beginning of things to come and I'm sure some will be shocked, some in denial and alot just glad it's finally coming to light.I hope all that can will be at the rally today and may God Bless You!
.:webmaster:.
· 3 years ago
Click here for the LINK to the article just posted by PRY4JSTC.
Bentley
· 3 years ago
It doesn't matter what this man has done, look at the over all good this man has done for god, look at how many souls this man has saved and put into god's basket.
He's no different than any other preacher that has ever claimed to be a preacher.
They all should be checked out and you will find that 100% are all false, fake, snake oil salesmen.
Any person that will get up and tell people that god knows all about people souls, and he knows something that you do not, which both are invisible and have never been seen, nor can be proven to exist, if you're stupid enough to belive such shit, you need to be in a mental institution.
This is the problem with America today, until people wake up from their mental delusions, the majority of Americans today, are mentally insane.
This is so scary that we have the majority of Americans controlling and voting, that are completely insane and they do not know this, because there is so many just like them, religions are accepted as being true, therefore they feel normal and OK and accepted by society and most of them do not want to know that they are completely insane.
Lets have some more insane Christians come on here and defend these charlatons.
We're waiting, we know he would never do such a thing, he's a man of God, and he told me that jesus loves me.
PRY4JSTC
· 3 years ago
Anyone go to the Rally this morning or have info on court day..? If so inform us of the outcome..God Bless us all!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
I hear his preliminary court date is June 14
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
The rally was very good. Mr. Rudd did an excellent job and expressed his desire to help the children with much feeling and sincerity. I was very touched by his effort. I also thought the Mr. Shifflett's brother, Josh Shifflett, delivered and very powerful and moving talk. I know that it must have been very difficult to speak against your own brother's actions. Nevertheless, the truth required that he do so and I commend him and Mr. Rudd for their attempt to help those who were abused. If anyone who is reading this was abused by Mr. Shifflett, please come forward now and stop him while there is a chance. United we stand and divided we fall.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
It's been an interesting couple of days in the Charles Shifflett case hasn't it? He made the statement that April 4th would be the end of his problems, but it appears that there is enough evidence to bring his case to trial. This is not suprising to me since I've known him for over 25 years and know what kind of person he is. I also know that there are a lot of other interesting facts that will come out as the trial progresses. I also heard some of his followers stop and yell during the rally yesterday saying how ashamed they were of Josh Shifflett and Jimmy Rudd for what they were doing. So, it appears that his followers aren't concerned about the feelings and lives of the abused children, just protect their beloved "preacher" at all costs. The young people who are coming forward are the real heros and Josh Shifflett and Jimmy Rudd should be thanked for their support! When Charles Shifflett's trial is over, it will reveal what we've known all along, that Charles Shifflett is a cruel and brutal human being that is incapable of admitting guilt. That is why you will never hear him ask for forgiveness. If you're waiting for him to say he's sorry, you're gonna have a long wait.
HappyinJesus
· 3 years ago
I have not seen any comments lately concerning the Charles Shifflett investigation. Again I beg you, if there are any more children that have been abuse by this man, please come forward now. The only way to stop him is to build a strong case against him with every person coming forward and holding him accountible. This man has abused his position for many many years and still has a faithful flock that refuses to open their eyes and see what kind of person chuck shifflett is. When he is convicted, and he will be, people will identify his followers by the kind of leader they chose. I don't think I would want people to know that I had supported a child abuser, thief, and sexual preditor!
PRY4JSTC
· 3 years ago
I agree to the above comments, but If his followers have stuck by him this far I really don't see them not supporting him. I mean after all they must have known of some of his actions and turned the other way and I really truly believe they will continue to do the same even when he's found guilty.It's a sad and sick situaton but he's good at his job, he's convinced his followers that he's the next thing to god and they believe every evil word. I pray for them and pray that they will see the light before it's to late! Pray for Justice
HappyinJesus
· 3 years ago
To pry4jstc, I agree with you. I know some of the people that followed Mr. Shifflett to his new "Church". Some of them are good people while others are just Sunday morning followers of a man. I just cannot understand how a person could sit and listen to a man preach knowing the evil things that he has done. Where does pleasing God enter into all of this? On June 14th, the process will begin and Mr. Shifflett will be revealed for what he really is. I am sorry for his family, but the blame is Mr. Shifflett's and no one elses. Even preacher's are accountable for their actions. The sad thing is there are alot of people that will be dragged down with him. People who knew of his actions and did nothing, are guilty by association. I, like pry4jstc, am praying for the truth to be known. I don't believe the Shifflett followers are going to like what they're going to hear.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Yeah you all pray out your ass!
PRY4JSTC
· 3 years ago
As far as shifflett's family goes I also feel sorry for some of them like his grandchildren who are innocent in the whole situation, but as for his wife she is gonna have to answer for upholding him when she knew what he was doing was wrong, not only for the miss treating of children but also for standing by and let him make her apart of his ungodly ways. She had to know of the {closeness} he had with some women of the church and the beating and humiliation of children, and list goes on... That's just guilt by association. My personal opinion is she's just part of it all, she's been the one that has allowed this to continue over the years.I hear everyone say how his wife is a good Christian woman I just don't understand how you get that.If she stands by and let's him do all this stuff even though she know's it's true then she is guilty too. Being a good christian woman would be top on her list not standing by her man and his sins.{Just my personal opinion}. What all these followers don't realize or refuse to realize is that they are letting a man such as his self take control over their kids and decipline them and then make fun of the parents cause he feels they aren't doing their jobs as parents so he has too.I just don't get what they think is gonna happen to these kids that are beaten by a so called godly man that the kids are suppose to look up to. I think alot of these kids are gonna turn their back on religion all togather cause of the misguided trust they have been made to put in this man and what he stands for. I know that if he was a true godly man he would have fought the old devil more before he abused these innocent children time and time again and the sad part is there is still misguided people that think all that he has done is forgiven in the eyes of the lord but I'm sure he's gonna have to answer in man's laws and God's law cause he put his self in a place to serve and lead and when the Devil takes that over I think he will pay for being a wolf in sheeps clothing and making so little of god's word....
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
I agree that his wife had to be aware of some of the things he's been doing over the years. I know of eye witnesses who followed him to some of the women's homes and saw him stay the night. I believe that this also will come out at the trial. The sad thing is, none of this will make a difference to his followers. I finally realize that most of his church members don't really care about what God wants, or if God is honored or not. They're just brainwashed by a man who only cares about himself. If he really cared about his family, he wouldn't sacrifice their feelings to protect himself. I feel so sorry for the people who will look like fools when Shifflett is convicted. They will carry the stigma of following a child molester, liar, and thief. I pity you poor people. You're going to see just how much he cares about you when you find out that he's been using you all this time. I thank God a million times that I'm on the winning side because I'm on the side of the abused children. He may have a good lawyer but the people of Culpeper know what he is.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
I knew Janet (Pipes) Shifflett growing up. She stated many times that she was afraid that she would never marry and end up an old maid because there were so few "good" men. (He was such a good man that it was suggested that he had a relationship with her best friend.) It's my belief that Chuck manipulated and intimidated his wife in the same manner as he did others in his churches. Abuse isn't always physical. I do feel sorry for her, but she should have stood up for those children even if she could not stand up for herself.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
I would like to hear more from those that knew Chuck and Janet Shifflett in Maryland. Has he changed or was he always this way with teens and women? I hear a lot of talk and it makes me wonder? Does anyone know of any more blogs on Chuck Shifflett?
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Go to the Fundamental Baptist Forum and do a search for Charles Shifflett. You'll be suprised what you'll find. I will be so glad when everything is presented in an open court and the real Charles Shifflett will be exposed for what he is. Also, check out the Bassenco's blog. You can find this website by doing a google search under Charles Shifflett + Pastor.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
I am have not been able to locate any information on The Fundamental Baptist Forum website that gives info on Chuck Shifflett. Could you please post a link or give more direction / information.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
This article which appeared in "The Culpeper Star-Exponent" on Sunday, February 26, 2006 pretty much sums up Chuck Shifflett!
Anonymous wrote: "I am have not been able to locate any information on The Fundamental Baptist Forum website that gives info on Chuck Shifflett. Could you please post a link or give more direction / information"
Dan (Not quite an Atheist, but will think about it when someone adequately defines what God is)
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Go to the Fighting Fundamentalist Forum and do a search for Charles Shifflett. There should be about 5 threads that will come up and you can read all about it.
PRY4JSTC
· 3 years ago
I agree with anonymous, I too would like to hear from someone that knew them in Maryland and find out the real reason they came to Culpeper
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
I'm not sure why they left Maryland. I remember I was just glad he left. The only thing I enjoyed about him was in youth group meetings. I enjoyed proving just how stupid he really was. He couldn't camouflage his anger when a "girl" out smarted him. I also knew how to use the scripture to support my views. He didn't like that I would force him to have group dicussions on very important topics of the day. (Such as Boys with long hair and girls with shorts skirts...it was the 70's) I took pleasure in seeing him get red in the face as often as I could. As you can tell I am not a supporter of Chuck Shifflett. However, many people from the old "Ripley Community Church" still support him and feel he's a victim. And I am certain sure they will continue to support him even if he is found guilty.
HappyinJesus
· 3 years ago
I know that it's a sad fact that some are going to follow him no matter what. Every witness is going to be a liar in their eyes no matter how many or who they are. That's the mind set of a cult member. I know Shifflett and I know a lot of the people in Maryland so that doesn't suprise me. I know Shifflett real well so I don't have any problem believing what his accusers say. I've seen him around women and teenagers so I'm suprised that more haven't come forward. I wonder if Sheriff Hart's comments could of had anything to do with it? Shifflett's a smooth operator for sure and he knows who to befriend. All those fruit baskets to the Sheriffs Department and First Baptist Church of Hammond paid off. He was able to buy a Doctors degree and some inside help with it. That $10,000 love offering to Mr. & Mrs. Hyles really got you something didn't it Shifflett? By the way, the church gave those things and not you. More charges are just around the corner so stayed tuned. All those facts and figures don't lie. I don't see how you show your face in Culpeper knowing what you've done to your family and the cause of Christ. You're a joke! No wonder you meet in a circus tent! I quess the saddest thing of all is the fact that you've never even mentioned repentance or forgiveness. You just refuse to accept responsibility for anything you've done. Well, you've been exposed for the pervert, thief, and whoremonger you are and none of your Hammond friends can help you. By the way, who really cares what they think? From what I've been reading, they're as big a liar as you. Birds of a feather really do flock together!!!!!!!!!
PRY4JSTC
· 3 years ago
I agree with you HappyinJesus...I have seen Shifty Shifflett more than once prove what kind of preacher man he really is,all touchy touchy with the young ladies and looking at them with ungodly lust. It's just sickening. It's just another cult in my book that is using God as it's cover. I can't believe people can be fooled by the likes of him. But I see it and live it daily and it's one of the hardest things I've had to deal with having people that you know and love that are otherwise smart beleive in this con artist,I've prayed and prayed for them that they wake up before it's to late. I wish more victims would come forward because you know there is many more. The statement by the Sheriff was done to keep all the others quiet, Why else would that statement been made.I just can't believe that he is still allowed to be around young children and preach every week.The reason he can show his face in Culpeper is because all the brainwashed people still uphold all the sins that he's committed and he beleives he's above everyone else, laughing all the way to the bank.I hope that everyone that is a christian will pray for justice for these victims of shifflett's and that all who still follow him will truly read their bibles and let God's word guide your heart instead of Shifflett......
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
I too was a teen in the early 70s at Ripley Community Church. I must say I enjoyed my teen years at Ripley and saw nothing bad of Chuck or Janet. Maybe I was just to naive back then but I just don't recall anything out of the way. I was gone when they left Ripley and went to Faith Baptist. Seem I remember someone saying people were upset about something and other people left the church at the same time. I know there was a lot of teens in the group at one time and if there was anything out of the way back then someone out there must of seen it but it wasn't me. Sorry I can't be of more help. Maybe someone else out there can help you find what your looking for. BUT please tell only the truth-!
PRY4JSTC
· 3 years ago
Things are quiet since shifflett's court date has been set. I wonder is this the quiet before the storm..??? Hopefully it will open a few people's eyes and our children will believe they too have a voice no matter if it happen yesterday or 20 years ago it's still a crime to abuse children and those who choose to be a abuser must pay for taking something away from our children that can never be given back. Shame on you Shifflett! Pray for the victims and for Justice come June....
HappyinJesus
· 3 years ago
I feel that this is the quiet before the storm as well. I believe that God is about to reveal the truth and a lot of people will be hurt by what they can not deny any longer. The testimony of the victims, my personal dealings with Shifflett, and the reaction of Shifflett and his followers have already convinced me of his quilt. Shifflett will never admit quilt until he's tried every way to lie his way out and there will be some who don't care if did the things he's accused of or not. He's got a lot of people so brainwashed that they won't believe any witness or any evidence no matter how compelling. There will be other warrants coming. To me, Shifflett is doing what a desparate criminal does when he knows he's quilty and is about to get caught. He's surrounding himself with people he can manipulate and hope they'll protect him. Well, his lawyer may be good enough to find some way to get him off here, but there is a God in heaven that revealeth secrets! God gave you a space to repent but instead, you hardened your heart and used God's people and God's property for your own personal gain. You, Mr. Shifflett, have disqualified yourself from being a pastor. God told Samuel about King Saul, "I have rejected him from being King." I want to say to you Shifflett, God has rejected you from being a Pastor! If you loved your people like you pretend you do, you wouldn't subject them to suffering for your ungodliness. Just admit the truth and repent!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Chuck Shifflett is using the same techniques (intimidation, physical and emotional abuse, manipulation, peer pressure, etc.) that Jim Jones used. And even after the mass suicide the remaining Jim Jones followers still believed in Jim Jones and his teachings. They still believed he was a victim of our government.
Those who are still following Chuck Shifflett need to think for themselves. Seek the truth from The Holy Spirit. Let God lead them. Not Chuck Shifflett or any other person. You have a mind of your own use it!
PRY4JSTC
· 3 years ago
I keep hearing that more charges are on the way for shifflett, but I haven't seen anything lately. all that I know is that he still is preaching his lies at first baptist and alot of brainwashed people are still listening and upholding his sins. I just don't ge it myself. All that he has done and they still flock around him and believe that he is innocent. I wonder if all his affairs will come to light in the trial and if there will be any one shocked about who they are with..? I'm sure some of you know who these woman are and won't be shocked at all. I just wonder if all the husbands know about is fondness for their wives...I bet if all this comes out in trial there will be a few that will be going back in time wondering where and if their mate was alone with shifflett and if any bonderies where crossed,I know he gives me the creeps they way he sits and the touchy feely stuff he does to females all while proclaiming his love for Jesus..got to go getting sick to my stomach!
Bentley
· 3 years ago
Listen all religions are a CULT!!!
All preachers are CULT LEADERS!!!
The only difference between a Muslim and a Christian is the clothes they wear!!!
*******************************************
Happy in Jesus, you are completely bonkers!
God's about to reveal the truth!
Yes my friends, God's preparing to opening the envolope of truth right now!
Wait a minute, he's about to sneeze, OK now he's scratching is back!
Ok, this may take eons before God reveals the truth to us!
You're all a bunch of religious BAFFOOONS!!!
The mentally dead, leading the mentally dead!
HappyinJesus
· 3 years ago
Ben, you can call me whatever you want. I feel real sorry for you because you're gonna find out one day that there is a God, but by then it will be too late. If I'm wrong, and I'm not, I haven't lost anything, but if you're wrong, you've lost everything. One thing for sure, time will tell. I'm not going to be distracted from the Shifflett case, so I won't answer you again.
Dano
· 3 years ago
Ben, Be careful Ben! Anyone who calls himself HAPPYINJESUS, could be dangerous!
All of these people who have their panties in a knot over the latest, grinning hick preacher who got caught messin around or stealin, are proud of their naivety, because their bible tells them to be naive.
Their bible tells them that they have to be naive in order to get to heaven. It's part of the escape proofing that the religious elite have written into religions ever since men invented God, in their likeness, and started writing books, and telling everyone that they were dictated by him. Dan (Who ain't lovin nobody unless they consent to it)
Bentley
· 3 years ago
Thanks Dano, I agree!
**************************************************** Happy In A Lie(jesus)
You are a liar! you'll be back! just like Shifflett, you're a liar!
All preachers are liars, all christians are liars, Jesus was a liar, the Bible is a lie!
You've been told so many lies you could not recognize truth if it run over you.
You're just plainly ignorant, because you want to be, any person can put up a sign that says, House of God, or Jesus Saves, or Church, and people like you will flock to it and say this man must surely be a man of God, but when they get caught, molesting children or embezzeling or adultery, well he was temped by Satan, and who will cast the first stone.
It takes a lie to perpetuate a lie, just like Jesus did, he said that there will be some of them that stand here which shall not taste of death until they have seen the kingdom of God come with power.
Peter lied to Jesus 3 times, how many times have you told a lie?
Happy you are a liar, living in a lie, you love a lie, you are the father of a lie!
Go to my weblog for prayer and consultation!
.:webmaster:.
· 3 years ago
"If I'm wrong...I haven't lost anything, but if you're wrong, you've lost everything."
Ah, unless Allah is the one true god.
Of course, you've also lost your entire life running after and converting other people to a delusion.
I guess people who have lost their minds have lost nothing either.
David
· 3 years ago
Peter lied about knowing Jesus 3 consecutive times. He did not lie "to" Jesus three times.
Bentley
· 3 years ago
Matthew 26:35 Peter said unto him, Though I should die with thee, yet I will not deny thee. A lie is a lie!
He lied 3 times, and yes it was to Jesus about Jesus!
David grow up! you're pathetic!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
It looks to me like this thread has taken a bad turn and people have become distracted from the real issue at hand. What about the abused children? They're still waiting for their opportunity to tell their story. Please don't think that you've been forgotten! We're still supporting you and are very proud of the stand you are taking. June 14th is swiftly approaching and the process will begin that will allow you to find the justice you deserve. Those of us who have dealt with Shifflett for many years already know what kind of liar and pervert he is and soon, Culpeper will know as well. Shifflett, how do you face your wife and children? I understand why they follow you now, but how can you continue to hurt them by trying to blame everyone else for your own sinful life? Why would you destroy their lives while trying to preserve your own worthless self? I've heard you preach many times, "Nobody loves me like I love myself". You've got to be the most selfish person I've ever met. Paydays coming!!!!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
June 14 will only bring out more. Shifflett always has a way of getting out of trouble and he will again. They said he shouldn't be alone with kids but he still does what he wants. He still has a school that he is in charge of. He still stands proud and tall with no shame.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Anonymos, I understand your frustration concerning Shifflett. Let me give you a few things to ponder. I am still a member of Calvary Baptist Church and have only missed a few meetings since Shifflett left in November of 2005. Though I am sorry for the innoccent people who have been hurt, I am thrilled to see the way that God is blessing the church. The Spirit has been wonderful and it is such a blessing to hear the word of God preached with the power of God on it; to see people walk the isle and get saved and follow the Lord in believer's baptism. I don't know if he'll get off or not, but I know that those close to the case know what the truth is. He has been revealed to us for what he really is! I hope for the children's sake that they find real justice and closure (if that's possible)of this terrible time in their lives. Meanwhile, those of us still at Calvary will continue to serve the Lord and obey our Savior Jesus Christ. Charles Shifflett may get off, and why the Welfare Department allows him access to children is beyond me. He apparently has friends(as we all know)in places of influence in Culpeper. However, much good has already come from those who had the courage to come forward and identify their abuser. Maybe some other child has been saved the agony that others have faced. There are other charges that will be coming so don't be discourged. Maybe our legal system really will protect the victims this time and convict the quilty.
PRY4JSTC
· 3 years ago
Well his church had their yard sale saturday, I guess he needs money for his upcoming fines and lawyer fees and the community gave their hard earned money to a man that abuses young children and takes money from funds meant to better serve the lord. I will give culpeper residents one thing that they had the good since not to elected Tom Reese. I'm hoping it was because of his support for his preacher, maybe alot of culpeper residents are started to wake up and see shifflett and his followers for what they are and on June 14th hopefully there will be alot more. Let's just pray for Justice!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
He's still preaching and gonna marry a sister and 1/2 brother who grew up over half of their childhood togather...Now if that don't show you just how sick of a preacher he is and the members that go there I don't know what does....They all are one sick perverted bunch that is trying to make people believe that this is a godly man who is gonna marry a godly couple.They don't read the same bible I do that's for sure....
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Yeah, she's the same one who was married to a guy that is now in prison, had a baby by another guy she was living with, and now is going to marry her step brother. She was still working on one of his bus routes while all of this was going on. It's strange to me that he wouldn't perform a marriage for his own Dad but would for this woman. At this point, he's just sinking farther and farther down the hole of compromise. I can tell you, you're going to find out alot more about this man when the evidence comes to light at the trial. I was also glad to see the community speak out about Tom Reese when he only got 167 votes for Town Council. Culpeper is tired of dishonesty in their leaders!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
yeah....And wait till the X husband gets out of prison in 2007 they won't know what to say then when she leaves the step brother for the X husband. It's gonna be a soap opera for sure.It's sad that this young man is gonna mess his life up for good by marrying her cause everyone in his life is for the marriage. Am I the only one that finds this sick and along the lines of incest????...A real preacher would be discouraging this kind of behavior. What example is she setting for her children? Believe it or not they are having a big wedding to boot, not sure if she's wearing white or not (probably)...I guess they will be on skates or he be wearing a clown suit depending on weather it's held at the skating rink or under the circus tent...it's just way beyond sick..More to come in 2007 when the daddy of 2 of the boys gets outta the pin............
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
I agree with you I think that the whole situation is sick, First for shifflett marrying the step brother and sister then for his church followers to stand behind them too. It's just shows what kind of religion he is teaching at First Baptist in Culpeper. I can't believe any person in their right mind would think this is right. The children is who I feel sorry for, just imagine what they are gonna go through, is he your uncle or your step daddy. what are the adults thinking of in this situation?
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
I Have attended Shitlets church, about a total of 15 times. Just from what I saw I was in a cult. I attended the church with a person that is a member of the church for more years that you can count on your fingers and toes... I felt that shitlet was very raciest, sexiest, and perverted. The way he would look at the women and girls I was very surprised. At that time I was about 12 or 13 now I am 22. My parents wouldnt allow me to go, a couple times I had to stay at my family members house. My dad did not like shitlet the first he met him, My mom either.The have known him for a long time. They have always said we wish people would realize the true man he is. Times like these makes those whom has trusted the ones they love make you think who is really telling the truth. I know with all my heart shitlet done those things and wouldnt think twice about doing them again. Many of my cousins attended that school, and they would tell the work they had to do. Most of them I bet couldnt do simple math. I bet if any one gave them an High school Prep test they couldnt do that.But to end this, I hope God will let Justice Be served.Shitlet will always be a liar, and stealer, and a pervert.To comment on the 1/2 brother and sister.. That is just sick I know that couple and I feel bad for the childen whom which is calling their uncle "dad".. And to the mother I am ashamed to say that I even know her.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
I log on to this site to read what people say about Chuck Shifflett --and now it is getting off on a girl marrying her STEP-brother.She has had enough problems in her life and now in the name of "shifflett" you wish to add to them. Why don't you ask him about the "private" wedddings he has conducted. It took over 20 years for enough people to stand up to Chuck at the same time to make a difference. Some of those same people at one time in thier life would have fought for Chuck. But then they saw the truth. There are some good people who go to his church they just don't see him in light of truth yet. Everyone has problems and makes mistakes. I thought this was about Chuck Shifflett and the lives he has hurt. My heart goes out to those who have been hurt by him. And to those who still live in fear of him. Don't go after others in the name of "Shiffllett"----then you leave the true issues and that is just whar he wants.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
The issues above aren't about shifflett...dah...he's the one that has allowed all this to take place the way I see it. If he had took this couple aside and explained to them that in god's eyes this is wrong and since they believe in him enough to keep following him after what he has done then they more than likely would have reconsidered their plans to wed. It's all about shifflett and the way he misguides people just to keep them on his wave lenght of thinking,and keep the bucks rolling in. Alot of us have someone close to us that has been harmed by this so called Preacher man, either physically or mentally so the marriage between the kin folk is just another chapter in his little book of shame. We diden write it he did and his followers paid to get it published! Believe me NO one here can forget what or who this blog is about and he won't either come June 14th!!!!
HappyInJesus
· 3 years ago
I also know this particular woman that you are referring to. I've known her most of her life and remember when she was in the Church School at Calvary. I feel sorry for her because of all the terrible things that have happened in her life. Perhaps her past is having an influence on her decisions. However, sad as her life may be, her choices can not be justified or excused. Right is always right and wrong is always wrong. The real culprit here is Chuck Shifflett and his host of characters for condoning this terrible situation. I guess when you have the morals of an alley-cat like Shifflett, you can justify marrying this couple. After all, in his mind, he has justified his own adultery, stealing, and deceptions. First Baptist Church of Hammond/Culpeper, you can be proud to be associated with Chuck Shifflett!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
WEll I say there is alot of us who had a bad childhood but that is not an excuse for being nasty. Think of the childhood the kids that are accusing shifflett of his crimes, just imagine the childhood they had, NO one believing in them or protecting them from this man. I use to go to church with her family and I think she was lucky to have been raised up by them. The bad things that happen to some people are by choice. We all make choices as adults, some right some wrong, and we are taught we have to answer for those wrong ones we make.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
WOW...........and the plot thickens, Man this must be one messed up church if all this stuff that is on here is happened or happening at this place that his suppose to be a place to worship god.....I Pray for all that went there and continue to go there!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
I have to say I grew up at the church and went to the school there too. Thank God I got out when I did. I have seen the abuse both physical and emotional that this man and put these people through. I also received a lot of his emotional and mental abuse. Although no one ever believed me either. I hope that he gets what he deserves. I know the people who have come forward and I stand behind them 100%.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
If you saw and experienced his abuse you should come forward and testify. Call the investigator and tell them what you know. If you don't, you'll allow Shifflett to get away with his abuse. I agree with you, I know the people coming forward and I believe them 100%. In order to strengthen the case against Shifflett, we need every person that has been abused by him to come forward now. June 14th is fast approaching, so it's time to step up and be heard!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
They have my name I have talked to a few people. I just wish that other people who are still following him would get out from under his control. It was 11 years ago that I got out (under different cicumstances) and my parents got out later but it still doesn't mean that I have forgotten. Any person who could say that a person deserves anything they get is wrong..(I won't go in more detail there) I just am waiting for this trial to start to see what is going to happen. I know that there are other people out there that have not yet come forward and probably won't for many different reasons. I think that some of them think that if they come forward it will really go a lot deaper than this and other people (family) could also be hurt.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
I can't say that I understand your position and the position of all the others since I haven't been through what you all have. I pray for you and the others that there will be healing and closure. However, if Shifflett is going to be stopped, then now is the time. He has to be held accountable for his crimes. If people don't come forward now, then he'll get off and continue to hurt other people. It's a tough decision I know, but it's a matter of whether he gets convicted or gets off. If he gets off, then he's abused you all over again.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
If he gets off then that means there is something wrong with the people of Culpeper County that will be the jury and the judge too. I know that they have enough evidence to do more than just a "fine" which I have heard that is most likely what he will get. I don't understand why there are still people that are still following him. I know some of the ones who went with him and I was shocked. The ones that I thought would stay left and the ones that I thought would leave stayed. I just wish that all of this would have come out sooner when we tried years ago. Things would probably be alot different with the victims. I just hope and pray that he is punished for everything that he did to all of his victims, including me and any that has not come forward. I know that he will be judged by God, but I pray that there will be know other people victimized by this man while he is still going unpunished.
S.W.
· 3 years ago
Has the world just gone nutty or what? I guess everyone is entitled to an opinion. But man none of you went to the school. I did! and I tell you what it was no picnic.. I swear I you went to school every morning and at noon I went to work.. For who you might ask? For Charles Shifflett.. It may have disrupted my school life,but I still got my homework done and done on time. But even so he gave me a good work ethic.. But he did take younger children out of class to have them work,either on the hill (as we called it)or for other members of the congregation.. I will not defend what he did,or will I condem him for it.. I just wanted to let you people know in a nutshell, THIS IS NOT TEXAS SO JUST REMEMBER WHAT HAPPENS IN TEXAS OUGHT TO STAY IN TEXAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I DON'T CARE......S.W.
mnm
· 3 years ago
I was a member of that "church" for 10yrs... not by my choice, and except for a FEW friends that I still speak with today, I hated every year. I was on both sides.. I remember bieng a friend to one of his daughters for about a wk on a few different occasions and when I wasnt acting or living the way they insisted, well then that was over. I have been on the mental and emotional abuse side also. I have absolutely no respect for the man that everyone called PREACHER. My family practically fell apart the yrs that we existed there, and I am glad that someone finally took a stand against the "power" evryone gave that man. I know most all of the victims and i stand behind Chad and all of them 100%!!!!! I hope that he gets what he deserves!!!!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
It was horrible there. I dreaded everyday to wake up and get ready for school. I went there from '89 to '95. Every day we knew what to expect. Do Bible first then whatever they wanted, but by 1:00 it was time to clean the church or go soul winning. That was basically how our "P.E." was. We did go out and play kick ball every now and again, but no play ground....sold all those candy bars and raised all that money for a new play ground for the smaller kids...I never saw it. If you got in trouble and didn't clean the church right, I remember having to get a tooth brush and clean base boards and toilets...and heaven forbid if my parents found out cuz what ever punishment Shifflett said I sure got. If you were a girl under 16-17 then no make up, no boyfriends no dates...unless you were certain people. Some got away with murder, but I was not letting that man or anyone for that matter control me. My child has a better education in 3rd grade then we did in that school. We never took algebra when I went we took "How to be a Lady" and wear make up and how to sew clothes and how to be a good woman even though we were still kids. I ended up having to get my GED and take classes before I could get that. And go to college I have to take a bunch more high school classes cuz we never did it. I hope that the children that are there now are getting a better education than we did. All I have to say is I know that the people that are coming forward are telling the TRUTH...I have seen it and been on the receiving end of a lot of his crap. Never again. And for the parents that never believed there children...and still choose to follow Shifflett...SHAME ON YOU!!!!!...YOU CHILDREN SHOULD ALWAYS COME FIRST. If one of my kids ever came to me about something like that I would not hesitate to believe them. The trial date is soon approaching and I can't wait to hear the result..Whether the jury and judge find him guilty or not...He will still have another judgement to go through in the end.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
A few wks ago I ran into an old "friend" of mine and a member of the new acult 'FBC of culpeper'. As she asked my opunion of the case I expressed my discuss for the man, and she began to tell me how wrong I was. " That man had a roll in distroying half the girls in Culpeper" I stated. A man in his position doesnt (shouldnt) have the right to tear apart or insult or degrade anyone. When I attended the "school" I was almost refused my opportunity to graduate only 12 days later cuz I had gone to the movies. I am in college now FINALLY but no thanks to the education we didnt get. That man is the biggest fake that I have ever met, he has told me to my face that I was worthless and no account and I hope that he gets everything that he deserves. I am a proud mother now, and I would never submit my babies to the mental and emotional abuse that one man put on me, my friends, my sister and faminly. I say its about time and thank God that someone finally listened to the victims past and recent. I back them all 100%
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
I also have talked to a few people that back him up and I just can't believe it. It in someways just depends on your "last name" and how much money you contributed to the church or "his pocket"...I have also expressed my "not so nice" feelings of that man. I will never forget how he TRIED to ruin my life. I was told "you are a slut and a whore and will never amount to anything becuase you don't follow God"...what he was really saying is becuase I didn't let him control me. I let him destroy a relationship I had years ago and I vowed to never let that man or anyone for that matter to ever control me or anything I do ever again. I am now a proud mother and have been married for almost 11 years to a man he said would never be good for me...Well there ya go Shifflett..guess you were wrong again. I have had a lot of trouble ever trusting anyone becuase of the lies that man has told and the emotional crap he put me through along with my family. I am glad that he has finally gotten caught and I just hope that he gets the punishment that he deserves. For the people that still are with this "Preacher" I hope that you will one day open your eyes and get out of his control and see him for what he really is. A Fake.
HappyInJesus
· 3 years ago
I can see from the last few comments that the real Charles Shifflett has been exposed by the people who knew him best. The young people who saw him and worked around him on a daily basis have revealed first hand knowledge of what a cruel and horrible person Shifflett really is. His lawyers may be able to find a loop hole in the law, but there are a lot of people who know what he is and what he has done. Where ever he goes and whatever he does for the rest of his life, whether in jail or on the outside, he has been exposed. God bless the young people who have suffered at the hands of this animal!!!!!!
Bentley
· 3 years ago
Happyina-Jesus-myth,
What is it going to take to convence you nut cakes that all preachers and all religions are totally false and fake?
Why is it that all you religious NUTS, Refuse, Plainly Refuse to see that the Bible and Qu'ran and Politicians and all Preachers are all fakes, running a Hoax, a con?
Why are you guys so scared of Truth, the Truth is, IT's all a LIE! A frigging LIE, are you all so ignorantly so stupid that you cannot recognize a total LIE?
False Prophets and False Preachers, Swindlers and Snake Oil Salemen Liars Cheaters Fakes
Billy Graham Benny Hinn Jimmy Swaggart Pat Robertson Jack Van Impe Jerry Falwell Joel Olsteen Jim Bakker Joyce Meyer Robert Schuller Oral Roberts Leroy Jenkins Arnold Murry John Haggee Kenneth Copeland Dr.Gene Scott Charles Shifflet Tom Tewell etc.etc.etc. add you favorite fake preacher here ________________ they're all self elected and totaly fakes.
The reason that you IDIOTS refuse to see them as fakes is because they tell you how wonderful you are and you're stupid enough to believe it, and then you give them money to tell you how wonderful you are and you're going to heaven, you're all totally INSANE. The people that wrote the bible were totally insane, that's the reason you believe the bible is because you too are totally INSANE!
Dano
· 3 years ago
Ben, Surely you are not suggesting that Billy Graham is a fake? You are talking about a man who has counseled presidents about God.
Are you saying that Billy doesn't know any more about God than, say Billy Carter or George bush?
The reverend Graham has spoken to millions of people about the lake of fire that awaits those who do not believe that Jesus was the "Son of God" ,who was born of a mortal virgin, impregnated by an angel (Some kind of surrogate arrangement) and then sacrificed to his heavenly father as payment for all of the sins committed by all of his other children.
Ben! You know in your heart that Billy Graham is anointed by God himself, to go around the world having huge crusades and collecting millions and millions of dollars for the very special "Billy Graham Ministries," so that his children can be comfortable as they go all over the world themselves, teaching the secret stuff, that only someone of Reverend Graham's stature has been blessed with, and has passed down to his children.
I do know that I see on television every evening, commercials for a very special book written by his son that explains in detail, why it is so important to believe that Jesus was indeed exactly who he said he was, and other profound things, that only the son and heir to all the wonderful knowledge that God exclusively gave to Billy!
You can tell by the authoritative (Well, maybe not so authoritative anymore) southern drawl that Billy is the real thing. If he didn't know special stuff about God, he would not have been blessed with that good OLE southern charm.
What I'm getting at Ben, is that millions of good hardworking salt of the earth believers in Christ, think Billy is just one little notch below Jesus himself, so it must be true!
Dan (A Yankee, living in Baptist Land (NC)
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
This isnt really the case, Ben or Dan.... This is about people who have been victimized by someone put in an authority position. The truth is that we all have a choice to believe whatever we choose. If we choose not to believe then so be it, yet if we choose to believe then that is our choice. Telling us that we are wrong and insane or whatever is the exact same thing that SHIFFLETT did. In the end the truth will come out anyways. I choose to believe, the sad thing is that men like Shifflett take the position that is supposed to be handed by God as a tool to help and guide people, he took that position and used it to his advantage to use people, hurt people, belittle people, and by the way it sounds to abuse people. He is the issue here, what he did happens everywhere not just from pastors (or so called) but it is about time that he is stopped. I am glad that the victims came forward and I've known most of them since childhood and I back them 100%....Rebel living in Yankeee land (IN)
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
I was reading through all of the comments again just now and I find it funny that in Feb. someone decided to say to "All the liars in Culpeper Va. need more time to think of more lies". Wow, for someone to act like they are so for sure about what I AM sure they know nothing about. Take a minute to actually listen to the real victims here... I am sure there might be a couple that have no clue and just want a few minutes of " Shifflett Bashing" but as for myself and the rest of the people telling there incounters with this 'man' what he did was WRONG and GOD will punish chuck for all that he is deserving of. This man sucked up to 'people in higher places' for years due to the fact that one day he knew that all of this would come out. it is so plain to see how much butt this man kissed to have the people he has to back him. Hearing about what went on is 100% different then actually living it. I hated the time that my family and I were under his thumb.... to the people still at Calvary Baptist, where I grew up, I hope that God sends someone there that is an honest GOD fearing man, and one that will provide a strong place and a safe place for all the families that are still there. Chuck will get what he deserves!!!!!!!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
9 more days to go........
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
6 more days to go!..............
PRY4JSTC
· 3 years ago
Someone here is counting the days tell hopefully justice will be served! I know there is not much else on my mind. I pray that all the victims of Shifflett's get justice for what he has done to them. My prayers are with everyone that has been and still are a member of his cult like religion. Hopefully when all the sins come out on court day it will awaken some to what a sick and perverted person shifflett really is! The way I see it after all this evidence comes out and his followers still stand behind him and consider him a man of God, then they are in danger of hell's fires just as him. May you truly find God and worship him and not some earthly Man that uses god to cover up his sins. Shame on you shifflett for letting these people continue to believe and support you after all the evil things you have done!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Just a few more days and Shifflett will have to face his accusers. People have told me that they're afraid of what Shifflett might do if they testify against him. Let me assure you, Shifflett is a coward. The proof is in the fact that he abused children and helpless teenagers. I wonder if the fact that he's had several affairs (6 that I know of) will come out in court? Be sure your sins will find you out!!!!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
I see that I am not the only one awaiting his trial. I will be really anxious to hear what will come out. I wish i could be there. I know that people are scared to testify, but just remember the victims and the children that could become victims. If you say all that you know this will help have him punished. Either way he will be punished by GOD!!! I just pray that the judge and the jury will also punish him. I feel sorry for all the people that have been victims of Charles Shifflett as I was victimized by his emotional and mental abuse. Again I cannot wait to hear what happens at his trial and I hope that everything and i mean EVERYTHING comes out. Maybe the people that are in his cult will also finally see that this man is not GOD but a real nasty man who pretends to be a man of God. All of the victims will finally have the chance to tell it all. Don't worry about Shifflett or anyone else. He cannot hurt you anymore. The world will finally know what this man is really about, and he is not about GOD.
PRY4JSTC
· 3 years ago
I too hope that the affairs that he has had come out in court so that people can see what kind of person sister so on is. I know of a couple, one with a woman that everyone thinks is a good christian woman.I mean they know what kind of wife she is and mother she is and they still thinks she's a good christian woman just because she loves preacher and does things for the church cause she loves the lord, You mean loves preacher, with his old vulgar self! I just hope and pray all of the affairs come out and all these good christian woman are brought out for what they have done. That's why so many woman are behind him cause they don't want their little sins to come out either. The sad part is some of these woman are probably kin to me. There is one for sure and if one person here knows of 6 then there could be more. I pray I don't know the others to well, but sure got me wondering....June 14th will be here soon enough and we shall see if he reaps what he sows
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
It blows my mind how the 'man' could have had 6 affairs and know one have said anything for so long....... He honestly creaped out every female that I know, hes is just dicusting. I know every one one the woman that still follow him at his new accult, and it wouldnt surprise me with any of them if he has had an affair with them. God will sort it all out!!!!! COME ON JUNE14th!!!!!!! I know I will be watching!!!!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Maybe if some of these women would come out and speake up it would show what chuck is really like and help the victims. I mean these women must know they weren't the only ones and more then likly thier names are out already ( I have heard some)SO why protect him--help his victims. IF he gets off he will do it again and it could be someone you love. And if there are others out there that have been hurt by this man-no matter when or where please help the ones the have had the courge to step up.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
What names have you heard? Just a first will do or initial even and I can figure out the rest for myself. I'm sure there aren't any of these woman who will come forward cause they will have to admit to their own families that they slept with the preacher man and I don't see that happening except for maybe one of them, her family already knows and still claim her so who knows what the truth will do to their lives destroy it or life goes on as long as we ask for forgiveness, that's their way of thinking and I guess it's been working for them so far. They will have to answer for all these sins one day that's the only satisfaction you can find in this whole situation.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
As of Saturday the step sister and brother are now husband and wife,mom, dad, step dad, step uncle, daughter inlaw, step daughter, and the family seems so proud! It's like one of those redneck jokes, Where you go to meet your future wife? Family reunion..ha ha Another of Shifflett's good deeds to add to his list.Where can you find any good coming of this sick situation ? That's what I want to know
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Remember Shifflett is working for god, he can do wrong!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Should read above:
Remember Shifflett is working for god, he can do Nowrong!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
All the charges are going to be dropped and he's going to get off! Not because he's innocent, but because he's a smooth liar that has kissed enough butt to take care of his little "problem". Watch and see, this pervert will be standing in front of his circus tent smiling and waving with his "girls" along side hanging on to his every word. You bunch of stupid husbands at First Baptist, you deserve what you get! If he had molested or abused my child, there wouldn't be a need for a trial. The statue of limitations has already passed on most of his crimes so I'm sure he can find enough stupid people in Culpeper to sit on a jury that will let him go. After all, I'm sure he's held their hand in the past. From what I can see, he's been holding a lot more than hands, both male and female. I heard he just performed a wedding for a step brother and sister this past Saturday. The wickedness of this person is unbelievable!!!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
I think this whole thing is just nasty. I know Chuck Shifflett and I know they couple he married and I think it is just nasty. Those poor children of her's has to be so confused...what do they call him uncle or dad well just make it "uncle daddy".... I can't wait to hear about his trial tomorrow. 1 more day. I hope they find him guilty. I hope that everything come out to the whole world. Some of these people that are to be witnesses know the truth and I hope that it all comes out. I know of 1 person that he has had his affairs with also, and I am pretty sure of others. Maybe when it comes out their husbands will open their eyes too. Like someone else said if it was my child that shifflett did this too there would not need to be a trial...I agree with you. Down to hours now....we shall see. BE SURE YOUR SINS WILL FIND YOU OUT!!!!! ALL OF YOU! this could get even more interesting.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Anyone know anything yet about the trial..? I can't wait to hear what happened. Please inform us all as soon as you hear anything......
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
I just read an article on starexponent.com about his trial. It is being waived. His attorney will be there to sign papers today, but no one will be testifying and he will go to a grand jury on Monday to decide if there is enough evidence to have a trial. UGH!!! This is aggrivating. I was really hoping. But, if he goes infront of a grand jury, maybe they will decide his fate there. Keeping my fingers crossed. We shall see. Just go to www.starexponent.com and click on local news and it should be there.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
The defense lawyers have waived the preliminary hearing and the DA will go before the Grand Jury on Monday with 6 felony charges to see if there is sufficient evidence to pursue the case against Shifflett. The newspaper said that other charges are being investigated as well as embezzlement so he will be charged for these latter. If there is sufficient evidence, a trial date will be set on Monday. Keep praying that Shifflett will get what he deserves.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
still praying, just not happening quick enough. Another 5 days for him to do whatever he wants. The paper also said that the crimes are punishable by upto 30 years or $15,000.00 fine. I hope he don't get the fine. Tom Reese will probably pay that too. Some how he has got to get some sort of time behind bars for all the victims to have closure on this. Not just a slap on the wrist. Still praying hard.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Yeah I had a little talk with God this morning and he said that Shifflett may have fallen short a few times, But look at all the souls he's sent to Heaven!
Man what a great job this man has done, look at how many souls he's kept out of Hell.
Boy we sure need more preachers like ole Shifflett, he's been sending souls to Heaven left and right for all these years.
I wonder how many souls Billy Graham has sent to Heaven, and Benny Hinn, and Pat Roberstson and Jerky Fartwell, etc. man, when we all get to Heaven, we'll get to be with all those great preachers, what a stinking thrill.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
sure was hoping something would have been done today to put a damper in his little cult.But, guess I'll have to wait till monday. It just makes me ill to think of this character carrying on like nothing he done is wrong and all the people that stand behind him are even sicker. I just pray he gets what he deserves and we all can rejoice that a pervert has been made to pay for his actions!
HappyInJesus
· 3 years ago
As of today, I haven't heard Shifflett say he was sorry for anything that he has done nor have I heard him ask for forgivness. I've heard him deny everything and call everybody a liar. I just don't understand the arrogance and hard heartedness of this man! I want to have compassion even on him but I find that impossible. The feelings and sorrows of the victims are whats important here. I have prayed much over the last six months for all concerned. My heart breaks when I realize how he ruined the pre-teen and teenage years of so many. Yet, he's still free to Pastor a church and run a school and be around children. I guess he didn't think about Chad and Liz growing up one day and standing up to him. He's a sick, wicked man who cannot be trusted. He's a thief and a liar, but worst of all, he's an abuser of innocent children. Please people at First Baptist, wake up and protect your children.
PRY4JSTC
· 3 years ago
Grand jury to hear case Liz Mitchell Staff Writer Thursday, June 15, 2006
Commonwealth’s Attorney Gary Close says he is playing hardball in the case of Charles Shifflett, the First Baptist Church of Culpeper pastor who is facing charges of physical and sexual abuse against children.
While Shifflett’s lawyer, Samuel Higginbotham, waived his client’s right to a preliminary hearing in Juvenile and Domestic Relations Court Wednesday, Close said the case would have never been heard at that level anyway.
“We were playing hardball with them,” Close said. “They agreed to waive, so they didn’t have to pay more bond. We were not going to have a preliminary hearing. That is a trial tactic and we felt it made our case stronger.”
The pastor attended his scheduled preliminary hearing to finalize paperwork with his lawyer.
Dressed in a suit and tie, Shifflett stood before Judge Frank W. Somerville and was pleasant with passersby in the courthouse hallway.
While he did not make any comments on his case, he did say, “I’d rather be in church.”
Court process If the defense did not waive its right to the hearing, Close said he would have directly indicted all charges to the grand jury that meets Monday.
If the grand jury decides there is enough evidence to try the case, it would be heard in Circuit Court at a later date. The strategy behind a direct indictment is to keep victims from having to testify more than once, Close said.
“To try it one time,” Close said. “And not build in any artificial traps for them, which is what a preliminary hearing would do.” But if the defense did not waive its right and the grand jury issued indictments on his charges, Shifflett would have had to go through an arrest and bond process again.
Background Shifflett, 54, faces six charges for cruelty and injury to children and indecent liberties with children.
Originally he was facing eight charges but the commonwealth dropped three of those in juvenile court Wednesday.
Five of the charges stem from the original investigation and citizen-obtained warrants. But the sixth charge, related to cruelty and injury to children, is a new charge that will be directly indicted to the grand jury, according to Assistant Commonwealth’s Attorney Tom Smith. If indicted on the new charge, Close said Shifflett would be subject to another arrest and bond hearing.
Jimmy Rudd, the father of one of the alleged victims, was the only other person who attended the scheduled hearing outside of lawyers, investigators and members of the media.
Rudd, 37, organized a support rally for victims of child abuse in April. Since the Shifflett investigation began in October, Rudd has had plans to organize a child abuse prevention campaign, which is in the works, he said.
“I’ll be so glad when all of this is over,” Rudd said. “I wanted to see him face to face. Justice will be served.”
Shifflett is scheduled to appear in court Monday at 9:30 a.m.
Liz Mitchell can be reached at 825-0771 ext. 110 or emitchell@starexponent.com.
At a glance
What we knew: Shifflett was facing eight charges related to physical and sexual abuse against children for incidents that occurred nearly 20 years ago at Calvary Baptist Church. He is also being investigated for allegations of embezzlement. What he’s facing: Shifflett, now the pastor of First Baptist Church of Culpeper, is now facing six charges related to cruelty and injury to children and indecent liberties with children. The latest: Shifflett waived his preliminary hearing and the case will move to a grand jury Monday
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Monday just can't come fast enough for me. I wish I could be there to see him face to face too. His comment "I'd rather be in church" well church ain't going to save him now. He has to be punished. I wish that the people of First Baptist cult would open their eyes and protect their children. I am sure that there are many other victims out there that are still being victimized by this man. HE HAS TO BE STOPPED!!!! I am still praying and will keep praying that he will serve time and not just a fine.
.:webmaster:.
· 3 years ago
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PRY4JSTC
· 3 years ago
I been waiting for this too about 20 years more or less, I knew from the beginning what Shifflett was, and have never been proven wrong yet. My God is a loving God and does not condone such physical and mental abuse of children. if a parent did these things they would have social service on them so fast it would not be funny. Then you got this preacher that is suppose to love God and teach God's word using his position to mess up young people's lives for good. I can't get how anyone in their right mind could justify what he has done. I was surprised to read in the star exponent article that one of the children that was abused was Jimmy Rudd's. Now I understand where all his efforts are coming from. I'll give it to him he's a much stronger person than I could ever be. I don't think I could refrain myself if shifflett had touched one of my children.I know his way may be the best but don't know if I could be that strong of a person. You have my prayers as well as all the others that have been a victim of this horrible man made situation. PRAY FOR JUSTICE!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
To Happy In Jesus...When Satan lives in one's heart then they convince their selves that they have done NO wrong and have NO reason to repent. They can justify all their sins that's the roll Satan has in one's life if you let him in!
HappyInJesus
· 3 years ago
I agree but it's hard to imagine that a person could justify actions like these. You're going to be surprised in the next couple of days at some other allegations that are going to be brought against Shifflett. What's been revealed so far is just the tip of the iceburg. I won't go into any detail now, but the next few days and weeks are going to be very informative. If I were Shifflett, I'd be planning for a very long stay away from Culpeper, and if I were a member of First Baptist Church, I'd be ashamed to show my face in public for supporting a man that will be proven a sexual pervert. My heart goes out to the victims and Shifflett's family as well for the pain that he has caused.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Quit teasing us...You gotta let us in on some of the details. As for his family I too feel sorry for them except his wife she is just as quilty as he is upholding all his lies and acting like she is above others. Makes me sick they way they all act after what they have done....
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
I agree, she acts to snooty for me. Especially since all this evil stuff about her husband came out she is always decked out and acting like she is better than anyone else. The one's I feel sorry for are the Grandchildren they are the ones that will mostly pay for his sins! Shame on you shifflett for making those little children suffer for all your devilish ways.
HappyInJesus
· 3 years ago
Just wait until all the evidence is presented to the Grand Jury on Monday and everything is out in the open. Culpeper is going to be shocked at the things that Shifflett has done and is still doing. How on earth someone could support him now is beyond me. I am so glad that I've stood on the side of the victims and will support them 100%. When you hear what they've endured over the years at the hand of Charles Shifflett, you're going to be shocked. I hope that he's locked up for the rest of life and that everyone in prison knows that he's a child molester. Maybe he'll understand a little about the horror and hell on earth that he has caused these poor children. He's ruined the one chance that these kids had at a normal childhood and it has now affected their marriages and adult life. What ever he gets in court will not be justice for the victims. Their justice will come when Shifflett stands before God. After knowing him for 25 years, I don't believe the man is even saved! I've never said this about anyone before, but if anyone deserved hell, it's Charles Shifflett! I'd love to be a fly on the wall at his circus tent service tomorrow and hear his stumbling around while he tries to preach knowing that he's quilty.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
There is not much that will shock me about shifflett, other than that he confess to all his sins in front of his followers and victims. I can believe anything he is done, he's just that kind of a person. I know that today they got the youth out doing a car wash. That is more than likely to raise funds for his fines and such.He's done all this stuff to young kids and still allowed to use them for his on purposes. I don't think these people that follow him will ever get it. Sorry to say they are as lost as he is if you continue to support him after what he's done. It's just nothing more than a cult in my eyes. I don't care what your beliefs are, there is no way a person in their right mind can completely trust and uphold a nother person mistreating a innocent child. It's that plan and simple. I hope he gets jail time too so he can learn how to sit in a chair without being so vulgar. You that know him know what I'm talking about. Makes you ill to think of it!
PRY4JSTC
· 3 years ago
HappyinJesus...you got me to wondering what you know. You must be pretty close to the whole thing to have so much information. I am involved through family members mostly and I confess I did go to his church when it was at the shopping center and that was only a couple of times and that was enough for me. To admit that makes me feel sick all over. I think god I had the good since to have figured him out for what he really was or is. I know what you are talking about anonymous when it comes to the chair thing. my sister can do a great impression of shifflett performing his chair routine...I just hope that all that find it the most awful crime in life to abuse a child, will pray that the case wil go to the grand jury and they will find him guilty for all his crimes. But, mostly the ones against children. PRAY FOR JUSTICE!
HappyInJesus
· 3 years ago
When all the witnessess and evidence is presented, there's no question about whether or not it will be pursued by the Grand Jury. I understand the impatience of those who are not privy to the information that I am, but be encouraged, payday is coming. Everything will be written in the newspapers after Monday. I am so proud of the young people who had the courage to come forth. My heart breaks for the other young people who remain silent out of fear. Maybe they will find a voice through the courage of others. I am closs to this case. I have been a member of Calvary Baptist CHurch for many years and still am. The church is doing great. This case is not about Calvary Baptist Church. It is a case about the actions of one man and what he has done. There were no cover ups at Calvary. As soon as the people found out about the investigation and the charges, Shifflett was confronted. He got mad, quit, and started another church. When he tried his little "Wednesday Night" episode where he tried to have the church vote him back in, he was confronted again and realized his trick wouldn't work. I pity the people who followed him to First Baptist Church because they will always be known a group who followed a cruel, violent child molester. We also know now, that his wife was aware of his affairs and covered them up as well. Maybe she was afraid of him, I don't know. I heard that she left him once and was threatened by him if she did it again. I don't know, that's hear say. By the way, I understand about the "Chair Thing".
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
What a bunch of bumbling baffoons you ninnys sound like.
You all have gladly voluntarly and willingly have accepted the book of lies as the truth and now you look at Shifflett as being any different than any other person that has self-elected himself to be called from a make believe god.
What MAN? can represent a holy creator god?
What MAN? can hold himself worthy to speak for an invisible supreme creator?
What MAN? can honestly say that the knows what a god is thinking?
What MAN? can say that he knows the word of god when it been translated over 1600 times and been embellished and doctored and filtered and things withheld and mistranslated and misunderstood.
What MAN? can pretend that he knows more about an invisible god than anyone else?
What MAN? can know more than is known than anyone else, that is not of this Earth?
What MAN? can say honestly he has a connection to supreme knowledge?
Why don't you all admit that you've been "had" taken to the cleaners, brainwashed, duped, tricked, stumped?
Why are you all so afraid of the truth, you'll run around in circles, and jump through mental gymnasyics to justify and make excuses for your own silly ignorance.
For some reason, based out of fear, you christians are so afraid to see the truth, that you've all been taken by your time and your money and your brains ability to think and to reason have been stolen away from you, stolen taken away from you!
Billy Graham? What is he? Nothing, just a MAN, that's all, nothing more.
Name any preacher! What is he? A MAN, nothing more!
A preacher is a MAN with lips and he makes noises, the noises that you want to hear, the noises that you are willing to give up your own ability to think and reason, for those noises.
You even give those preachers your money to make those noses that you want to hear, can't you all see how insane that is?
A preacher is a souped up MONKEY making noises that you scared MONKEYS want to hear.
Then you say that you are Happy in a Lie(jesus), then you will say Pray For More Lies.
You christians are wallowing around in a lie, like home made biscuits, you are rolling yourselves around like dough in flour and the flour is the lie that you all desire to be true, and then in the final product you're eaten alive and now you just can't believe anyone would try to deceive you, no, not you, you could not possibly be deceived, no way.
No christians could never be lied to, by a preacher, no way!
A preacher never lies and never commits crimes, no never no way!
A preacher is the official mouth piece directly from god.
Preachers are perfect!
Preachers represent god directly!
Preachers have wisdom sent to the from god!
Preachers know all there is to be known by mankind sent directly from god.
Preachers saves souls for god to collect!
Without preachers, the world is doomed!
All preachers are liars, con-artists, tricksters, fools, sleeze bags, theives, robbers, scum, evil, trash, but you cannot see it.
PRY4JSTC
· 3 years ago
Happyinjesus...may I ask are you male or female? Just wondering,trying to quess who you are.I am somewhat encourage by your words that something big is about to open this case wide open. Do you think it's enough to change his current followers minds? I have some family members that I believe will follow him to end, even go to jail for him if they could. I can't imagine them believing anything bad against him. I worry for one more than others, and just pray that something will cause this person to rethink who he claims to be and what he represents. I don't really see that happening cause of the influence of many other followers that are close to this person. All I can do is pray, and pray some more. May Monday bring a all new light on the case and set some people free to worship God and not a man!
HappyInJesus
· 3 years ago
Well, today is the big day. You will find out today some of the things that Charles Shifflett has done. I believed that you will be shocked. I have had some of the people who follow Shifflett tell me that even if he confessed, they would fully support him. You cannot reason with unreasonable people. No question whether or not he heads a cult. The evidence and number of witnessess will be overwhelming, but the "man worship" of his followers will remain intact. I know that some of the people following him are related to you PRY4JTC so I understand your concern, but I also know that some of the victims are related to you as well. I'm glad that you support the victims. As for his followers, they're following a man and not Jesus Christ and nothing is going to change that. Only a person with demon influence could hold the loyality that he has from his followers. I couldn't imagine having my children or grandchildren in a place that would allow Charles Shifflett to have access to them. Come on Social Services, wake up and do your job!
PRY4JSTC
· 3 years ago
Any news yet..........????
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
I haven't heard anything...has anyone else. Gosh I wish I could be a fly on the wall today!!! Please inform us if anyone hears anything. The suspense is getting me. Praying that the victims will be heard. I know that a lot of stuff will come out today and I wish the followers of this man would wake up and protect their children. I agree...COME ON SOCIAL SERVICES!!! If it was any other home or person they would have done their job by now. All it takes is a child to say that they got a spanking and they would be right at the door. Why is it taking so long now???
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
The Grand Jury has heard the case and is deciding what to do. This is not the only case they are hearing today so be patient. There are some new charges that they are considering against him as well. You've waited this long so just hang in there for a while longer. It'll be another year for this case is settled if not longer. Just consider how long the victims have waited. They're the real heros.
PRY4JSTC
· 3 years ago
I heard on channel 19 out of charlottesville that it is going to trail...Thank God! Starts Aug.22. Maybe there will finally be some justice........Pray for it
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
The two new charges that were brought against shifflett yesterday..What were they for? Are they other children that came forward or embezzlement charges? Someone has to know what went on...
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
It is my understanding that the additional 2 charges are not related to embezzlement but to more abuse of children. The embezzlement charges are coming. It appears that the Grand Jury saw enough solid evidence to send every charge to trial. Hey followers/defenders of Shifflett, I quess all the victims are not liars after all. I guess Calvary Baptist Church was correct in accepting Shifflett's resignation and these charges were not a result of vindictiveness on the part of it's members as Shifflett told the Free Lance Star after all. I was told that the Grand Jury voted 100% to pursue every charge because the evidence was so overwhelming. How can you people still follow a man like that? How can the people of Culpeper continue to support him and serve in The First Baptist Church of Culpeper? How can you bus workers go out and bring little children into a place that has a molester for a pastor? I feel sorry for his family, but put the blame where is belongs, on Shifflett himself! There seems to be an attitude that the victims should never have come forward and that Shifflett should be allowed to continue ruining lives. The victims are heros that should be admired and praised for their courage. We're behind you young people! Shifflett said that it would all be over on April 5th....wrong!!!!!! I am convinced now that you're finally going to be brought to justice. Praise the Lord, you deserve it!!!!!!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
If it was more child abuse charges, were these from the the same years as the first victims are is this in later years?
PRY4JSTC
· 3 years ago
Let's all rejoice that shifflett's is gonna go to trail and answer some questions to what he's been doing all these years to innocent victims. What I can't understand if they found so much evidence that they are moving to trial, then why are they allowing him to continue preaching to the youth, run a school for young children. How is this fair to the childen that could still be under his spell. I mean they don't have anyone to watch over them cause the adults believe that shifflett is innocent. So, where does that leave the innocent children? At the mercy of shifflett like the ones before them. I bet my life if this was a parent that was doing these awful things to there child they would have been restrained from having any contact with our own children and this man is free to still take advantage of a young person's life in more ways than one!Culpeper residents you need to be calling social service and doing some major complaining about this before it happens again. after all what has he got to loose? He's finally is gonna have to answer to the people that count, his victims.He has said numerous times he doesn't have to explain anything to his followers, cause they know he is innocent.I just wonder how many might be thinking and wondering now that things are moving farther than shifflett or any of his followers ever thought that maybe they are wrong and they are feeling ashame for not believing the children. Where's their faith gone? For so many that read their bibles and believe in the lord. Where do you justify any of this? Please if you're a shifflett follower inform me how do you fight so hard for this man's innocence and in the process leave the children behind to fight for their selves.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Good thing the children held the car wash on saturday, and Tom Reese better get his check book out, cause I hear there is gonna be more arrest and fines. You would think he would wise up. Birds of a feather flock togather. Why else would you support any one that has been accused of abusing innocent children!
As a child, Robert Hammonds yearned for acceptance at Calvary Baptist Academy.
But the constant physical and mental abuse he says he experienced prompted him to leave the K-12 private school in eighth grade.
Now, at 27, Hammonds has been identified as a new victim in the ongoing case against Charles Shifflett, the pastor at First Baptist Church of Culpeper who resigned from Calvary in November.
On Monday, a grand jury indicted Shifflett on seven charges of physical and sexual abuse against children for incidents that occurred at his former church nearly 20 years ago.
Two of the charges of cruelty and injury to children are new; the commonwealth directly indicted these charges to the grand jury in connection with an ongoing investigation by the Culpeper County Sheriff’s Office.
According to court records, Hammonds is the victim of one of the new charges. The other is Culpeper resident Chad Robison, 29, who was the first person to come forward in the case. The commonwealth said the new charge involving Robison is sexual in nature but is considered “tormenting” a child because it cannot be proven that Shifflett had lascivious intent.
Shifflett, 54, faces three other counts of cruelty and injury to children and two counts of indecent liberties with children. He is scheduled to be arraigned in Circuit Court Aug. 22, and a date for a trial will be set that day.
As of Tuesday evening, he had not been arrested on the new charges. The Sheriff’s Office could not confirm what the new charge in relation to Hammonds entailed, stating it had yet to receive the paperwork. And the commonwealth’s attorney is on vacation.
But last week, the Star-Exponent obtained an interview with Hammonds, who has been incarcerated for the past 10 years at the Lawrenceville Correctional Center on charges of malicious wounding and robbery.
It was 1995 when a judge sentenced Hammonds, 16, to hard time for a crime that took place in Culpeper. A few years before, Hammonds told the Star-Exponent from a prison telephone, he was one of Shifflett’s many young victims.
Robert Hammonds’ story Hammonds said when he attended Calvary Baptist Academy as a middle schooler in the early 1990s he was the only black student and constantly referred to in derogatory terms.
“I didn’t enjoy my time there because, as you expect, there was a lot of abuse going on at that school,” Hammonds said. “Physical abuse and, more than anything, mental abuse.”
Hammonds said he started attending Calvary Baptist Church with his mother at the age of 6. When the opportunity came to join the school - Hammonds can’t remember exactly what years he attended - he accepted because it was free tuition and he was hoping to fit in with the other children.
“Looking back at it, I never was accepted as a part of them,” Hammonds said. “And then, one night, I was shot at. Charles Shifflett came to me one day and told me that if he caught me talking to the white girls again that he would kill me. After church service, he was walking across the parking lot. Someone shot at me as I walked by the truck.”
Hammonds said he does not think Shifflett shot at him then. However, Hammonds said he was shot at a second time when he and other boys were forced to cut down trees, which were then sold to pay for teachers’ salaries.
“He shot a hat off my head,” Hammonds said of Shifflett. “There is an area we would go and cut up wood. I was walking up there and he shot the hat off my head. … He told me to get up the hill. The guys, they went up the hill in a truck but he made me walk. I wasn’t moving up the hill fast enough so he shot the hat off my head.”
Hammonds said there were some witnesses to the incident but everyone laughed it off out of fear or toleration.
“You kind of dismissed it as guys being guys,” he said, “but no responsible man does that to children.”
Hammonds said boys were not only abused with corporal punishment but they were forced to pick up horse manure with their bare hands and threatened daily with verbal comments from Shifflett and other churchmen.
Hammonds said as the sole black student there, he felt he was treated as a slave when Shifflett forced him, and not other students, to do chores.
Shifflett has repeatedly denied requests for interviews regarding his case, saying he will not discuss the accusations until after his trial.
“He would make me tow bricks, tow logs - and I still have injuries from toting those logs - drive a tractor, which I could not drive, pick up horse manure,” Hammonds said. “I would clean all the time, just like I was a slave and nobody was doing it with me. He had a pony or baby horse and he pushed the horse in the face and made it kick me. I suffered injuries but I just sucked it up.”
On one occasion, Hammonds said, Shifflett and others were in a truck and chased him through a field until they hit him.
“I just laid down on the ground, hit the bed of the truck and rolled; and I wanted to pretend I was dead just in case they tried to do it again,” Hammonds said. “They started to get worried that I was dead. They took me to the restaurant and gave me something to eat.”
An early father figure Growing up, Hammonds was one of eight children raised by a single mom. Since he did not have a father, Hammonds said he initially looked up to Shifflett as an example.
But as time went on, he changed his opinion of his pastor. When he couldn’t take any more, he left the church and did not involve his parents or other adults in what he says he witnessed and experienced.
“I never really considered getting anyone else involved because I always felt like I was a loner,” Hammonds said. “As an adolescent, you think things are funny. I thought things were funny but as it went on I thought, maybe this is not a joke.
And when they start to become reality, I started to see this man really did see me as a nigger, as a slave, as something to use.”
As a student at Calvary’s school, Hammonds said he learned his limits, which prepared him for prison.
He gets out in three months if he stays on good behavior. For the past 10 years, he said, he’s learned how to articulate his feelings and avoid expressing himself in a physical way.
While he’s not certain of his future, he says he is looking forward to being a productive and responsible citizen.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
I remember being at the school when Robert Hammonds went there. I remember his whole family. I remember when he was told never to talk to the "white girls" and how he was used for work and comments made about his race. He was a nice kid when he went there and all he was looking for was someone to love him and accept him. His family used to ride the church bus every Sunday and he was treated different when his mother was around, but in school is was a different story. I am so glad that he came forward with his story. I just don't understand how come Charles Shifflett is still out walking the streets and so called "preaching." I pray that he is not still hurting any more innocent children. WAKE UP PEOPLE OF FIRST BAPTIST YOU PREACHER IS A CHILD ABUSER AND A MOLESTER. SAVE YOUR CHILDREN!!!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Saw the paper this morning. Think he will follow his bond conditions? Aug.22 will only set the trial date so it will be a while before it is all over and for some I'm sure it will never end. As I reread the letters I wonder where those 100%ers are?
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
I don't think he will be able to follow the Bond conditions. The reason being Ms.M she is the victims family and she's not gonna stay away from her preacher as it is stated in the conditions. The problem is who's gonna inforce these conditons? And who's gonna be the adult in the supervision of a child, his followers,and we know how that turned out before and how they still think the victims are all liars. I just don't understand where the lodgic in allowing him to still be in a position to control someones else's life by being a preacher.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
where's all his little followers at now? I don't see any of you defending him now! Just admit it, you was wrong he is a all that everyone said he was. Time for you to get your souls right with the lord after standing behind a preacher that is evil to little children.You are lucky our God is a loving God and a forgiving one too!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
It's all OK, everything will be alright, jesus will forgive him and all his followers will continue to send him money, god knows whats in his heart.
God is a just and caring and loving god, just ask the 6 million Jews he let Hitler kill.
God loves everybody!
God loves the sinner, but hates the sin!
God will take care of everything!
God will search his heart and forgive him!
Just ask jesus to forgive you!
Jesus saves!
What a bunch of idiots!
HappyInJesus
· 3 years ago
I think now, as the evidence has been confirmed by the Grand Jury, hopefully people will realize what kind a person Charles Shifflett really is. I want the victims, Chad, Liz, Woody, and Robert, to know that the people at Calvary Baptist Church wants you to know that we are behind you 100% and have been from the beginning. We know that you're telling the truth and we pray for you all daily. I've heard alot about justice these last six months but I don't think that you'll see true justice in this life time. Justice would be you getting your childhood and teenage years back. Justice would allow for you each to have happy memories to replace the torment that Charles Shifflett caused you. What you need is grace and love but you're not going to find justice on this earth. You've been robbed of precious years that you can't get back. I hope that Charles Shifflett gets life in prison for what he has done to you but even if that happened, it would not be justice for you. I want each of you to know that if you can ever set foot in a church again, the people at Calvary Baptist Church would feel honored to have you come and worship with us. Also, to those at First Baptist Church who will hopefully wake up and see what Shifflett is, we at Calvary Baptist Church hold no grudges and would welcome you as well. In a way, you to are a victim of Shifflett. I'm sure there are those who did not come forward and tell their experience with Shifflett, but to those who did; Chad, Liz, Woody, and Robert, I want to say "Thank You" for your courage and strength to hold Shifflett accountable. May God bless each and everyone of you as you continue to tell the truth and reveal a child abuser in Culpeper that continues to bring reproach on Jesus Christ.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
I might be a idiot, but at least I'm one that loves JESUS and I'm a saved idiot! Prayer is the answer
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
I might be a idiot, but at least I'm one that loves JESUS and I'm a saved idiot! Prayer is the answer
You say you love jesus, but you're just saying such nonsense with your mouth, which means absolutely nothing.
You have no idea what jesus is or was, you just think you love an imaginary myth.
Jesus was a myth converted into a grandiose lie and cover up.
You say that you love the myth concept of jesus, but you really do not know nothing in truth about a jesus.
You love a myth called jesus, you have no real idea about whom jesus was.
Jesus was mainly a negroid, now would you love a negroid as much as you pretend that you do? No!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Happy in JC
Yes we invite all you victims back to come worship our imaginary god and new preacher with us. Maybe just maybe our new preacher will be kind enough to wait 6 months before he divides to start molesting the congregation, although I doubt it.
This time we'll be sure to get a REAL christian preacher this time, hopefully he's not a homosexual, but who knows, only god can search his heart.
We all just need to pray harder this time, so we will be sure to get a Real man o god.
Nothing fails like prayer, preachers and christianity and god.
What REAL idiots!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Well, what do all you people in La Plata, MD. think now? Do you still think that Shifflett is the victim of lies? The man sexually molested teenagers, male and female. The Grand Jury said that there is evidence to prove his guilt! I've talked personally to the victims and there's no doubt of his guilt to me. Then there's the group in Culpeper who still are defending their "little preacher". How can you justify in your mind and soul that it's OK for a grown man to sexually abuse children? And not just abuse them, but torment and assault them. I hope that the victims can find some kind of peace in all this. God help the ones that have decided to follow a child molester.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Hey, First Baptist Church of Culpeper, I guess the Grand Jury is a bunch of liars as well since they confirmed that there is overwhelming evidence to bring 7 felony charges against Shifflett. What a bunch of losers!!!! You still don't have enough guts to admit what this guy really is. What's so amazing is that some of you really know the truth and don't care. What kind of hold does Shifflett have over you that you can't or won't break free? I saw Shifflett again on Sunday standing in the Skating Ring parking lot waiving at the cars that passed. This guy has no shame! If he was really trying to do the work of God, he would step aside at least until the trial is finished. By the way, he has already violated one of the conditions of his release by being around two of the victims family. I saw Mary L. talking to him Sunday and she is Liz and Woody's mother. Shouldn't the law pick him up for violating a condition of his release? Poor Liz and Woody, they're not only Shifflett's victims of abuse, but their own mother has forsaken them for Shifflett. How weird is that!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
IF you saw Mary L. talking to shifflett then you should report it to the Commonwealth attorney cause that is one of the violations of his bond. I knew he wasn't gonna be able to stay away from her. She doesn't care about her children cause if she did she would have nothing else to do with shifflett. This should show people the control he has over most of the women there at First Baptist and the stupid husbands don't have since enough to figure it out. I mean what decent mother would trust and follow a man that abuses little innocent children. I just hope after he's put away where he belongs that some of these women don't find out that their children or grandchildren where a victim of his too, and they where to scared to come forward since their family still trust this man after all he's done. How could they come forward since they see him doing no wrong? It is truly one of the saddest situations that I have ever seen!
HappyInJesus
· 3 years ago
If the law allows him to be around children and walk freely after all he's done, I don't think they would care who he's talking to. Social Services allowed him to operate his school in a private home after the school at Calvary Baptist Church closed down so he couldn't have access to the children that were there at the time. The Grand Jury would not have indicted him on all 7 charges if there had not been sufficient evidence. And by the way, there will be more charges coming in the near future as well. We will never know all the victims or the damage that this one man has done to the lives of so many, but we DO KNOW what he has done to Chad, Liz, Woody and Robert. I don't care how much good he has done for others and how many times he has "held your hand", it could never erase what he has done to at least 5 young people that I know of. Abuse of any kind is never acceptable, but when a cruel bully like Shifflett sexually abuses a child, it is sickening and he must be held accountable! When I see him on Sundays in front of his circus tent waving at everybody, it literally makes me sick. This time Chuck, you're going to answer for your wickness! Didn't you realize that these children were going to grow up or did you think that they would always be afraid of you? As I read the accounts of Chad, Liz, Woody and Robert, I remember what precious and caring young people they were while attending Calvary Baptist Church and what good memories they could of had of their years there. But you Charles Shifflett have destroyed that. I understand why they don't want to even enter a church building again. I guess it made you feel superior to make these children fear you. Well guess what, they don't fear you anymore!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
These were the conditions of his bail .....He is also forbidden to have direct or indirect contact or communication with any witnesses who will testify in the case, the victims or their family members. And he must not have contact with anyone under 18 unless another adult is present.....I know that Mary L. is a family member of 2 victims. So,why don't you Culpeper people stand up alittle for the victims. If you have seen him with a victims family member then report it. Why don't you start picketing out in front of his circus tent in protest of future victims and the pass victims. I surely wished I lived closer to culpeper and was able to take a stand for the victims. Come on Culpeper stand up for the childrens rights, instead of letting shifflett put culpeper on the map for all the wrong reasons!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
I agree with you. I know that Mary L. will never leave Chuck's side...after all she never left him when her daughter told her mother that she was being abused and even when her son told. What kind of mother is she? What type of realtionship does she really have with Charles Shifflett. I have always wondered that. I also wish I lived closer and if I did, I would be right there to ask these people what their problem is and WHY!!!! I just don't understand how a parent, a mother, a grandmother or whoever can follow this man. He is not even a man to have done the things that he has done to these innocent victims.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Hey Mary L., do you honestly think that Liz and Woody are lying? I believe that you know they're telling the truth but you're in love with Chuck Shifflett and you won't forsake him even for your own children. You allowed him, with your knowledge, to molest and abuse your son and daughter. If the Sheriff is going to arrest any parent, it ought to be you. I've heard about people like you. Your husband and children must have the patience of Job that they could still love you after all the years of neglect on your part. I know your husband and he's a good, honest, hardworking man. If you were my wife, your rear end would have been in the street years ago and if Chuck Shifflett had molested my child, there wouldn't be any need for a trial. You better run to them while you still can and beg their forgivness. What are you going to do when Shifflett is sitting in jail? You Mary L., are inexcusible!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
You all supported this man at one time and gave him money at one time, so guess what?
You're all going straight to H E L L L L L L ! ! !
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
We all know what sister mary has been getting from shifflett and it's alittle more than his jim jones teachings. I know the truth about their relationship and what it consist of and so does her son that's why he has nothing to do with her. I imagine that there are alot more sister mary's out there too. Why else would you stand up for a child abuser? Got to be alot more than alittle bible talk going on. I mean get real, What mother would choose a man over her own children? You don't have to be to educated to figure that one out!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
The way I see it the father is just as bad, cause he's still living with their mother. Liz and Woody got treated badly all around if you ask me.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
We have not forgotten you Chad, Liz, Woody, and Robert. Stay strong, we're praying for you daily. Chuck will have to miss youth conference this year to appear in court on July 11th. I'm sure he's going to miss being around all those teenagers and the women that he could have been with next week. What kind of parents would have allowed him to take teenagers on a trip anyway? Are these people sick or what?
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Anyone know why he has to go to court on July 11th. I saw that in the paper too but can't find anything on the Virginia Courts web site.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
It's for the 2 new charges that the Grand Jury indicted him on.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
I want to address this e-mail to all the people who are still supporting Charles Shifflett. I have followed the events over the past 6 months concerning Charles Shifflett. I have listened to his accusers and his supporters and tried to make some observations based on facts and pre-ponderance of the evidence. A Grand Jury has reviewed the evidence and confirmed that it is sufficient to bring 7 felony charges against Shifflett. I have listened to Chad, Liz, Woody, and Robert as they describe their experiences with Shifflett and am convinced that they are telling the truth. My own experiences with Shifflett prove to me that he is not only capable of doing these things, but that he did in fact do them. The biggest suprise for me is that the people at First Baptist Church that I've known for years and respected as Christians, really don't care if he is guilty. What scares me the most, is that there are people in our community that will follow and support a sexual preditor regardless of the crimes he has committed. When Shifflett is locked up, his supporters will still be in the community. We, as parents, need to be aware of who his supporters are and treat them accordingly. I would never allow my child to ride one of his buses or be taught by anybody that supports him. It's clear that Shifflett and his supporters think alike. Mr. Reese, I just don't understand you, you know better. First Baptist Church of Hammond has made their choice in supporting this pedophile which proves that they can be bought as well. Dr. Bob Gray in Jacksonville, Florida has proven what he is too. What's the lesson in all of this? God gives humans the free will to choose to obey him or not. None of his has changed the way I feel about God, just the way I look at people. No one is above sin and all must be held accountable. Charles Shifflett, you did the crime so now, get ready to do the time. To all his supporters, you're quilty by association and will be held accountable as well.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
I agree with you. I was one of the teenagers years ago that looked up to the people who are now following Shifflett. I always thought that they would be the ones to stand against him and not for him. Then some of them do not surprise me either. I wish that they could just open their eyes. Maybe some of them are afraid to stand against him for what might come out about them if they do. It is all going to come out in the end. Everyone will know what this so called preacher is about. If you choose to still stand by him, I feel sorry for you and your family. I just hope that your children are not being hurt in the mean time. From my own personal experiences and seeing what this man has done to Chad, Liz, Woody, and Robert...I know that he is guilty and the grand jury thinks that there is enough evidence to have a trial. So wake up people...your children or grandchildren could be victims, and you are too blind to see it. OPEN YOUR EYES.
HappyInJesus
· 3 years ago
You just hit the nail on the head. There's alot of others that Shifflett has something on. That's why they support him, they're just like him and over the years they've participated in his evilness. When the trial comes, there's going to be a lot of nervous people hoping that they won't be uncovered.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Happyinjesus if you know about things that shifflett has done then share it with others, you can let it out cause it doesn't matter he's going to trial now. Maybe if you tell what other things he's done you might get some people to turn away from him. Even if it's just one person you save it will be worth it. I don't understand if you know what all he has done why you don't come forward. Shifflett will have his day no matter what you tell us. I just don't understand how someone can be so blinded by this man that they think it's okay for him to do what he has done to these victims. I pray for his victims, because of what they have ahead of them, facing this monster in court. I can't even imagine what they must be feeling about his followers, and the lack of sympathy they are getting from them.It must be like shifflett abusing them all over again. Shame on you First Baptist members for turning your backs on these victims! I want to know where in the bible you find reasoning for upholding this evil man ? One more thing, and how do you sleep at night? You are just as guilty as shifflett!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
wow....you people sit and write the same stuff over and over....save some electricity and go out and GET A LIFE!!!
Anonymous1
· 3 years ago
Wow... where did that anonymous get all the time in their life to make such a valuable post.
Pete
· 3 years ago
I can't understand why you all act surprised when the church members keep suporting this sexual pervert.
I live near Charlotte, NC, I came through the old run down PTL Club, just to look at the billions spent and waisted there, and there were people in campers and tents waiting, for their messiah, Jim Bakker to get out of prison and save them, he had been in prison for over 5 years.
Look at the Jim Jones, David Karesh, Jimmy Sawggart, Benny Hinn, Tom Tewell, Billy Graham, Jerry Fatass, Pat Roberson, Kenneth Copeland, Arnold Murry, Joyce Myer, etc etc etc etc.
What man or woman can represent an imaginary god?
Can they walk on water? Can they raise the dead? Can they perform miracles? Can they collect and keep all your money?
What makes you all think that someone is called by a god?
The Bible says all have sinned, and all fall short of the glory of god.
Yet you insist that there is one among you worthy to represent an invisible God!
Why are you people insane?
Next time just pass the koolade during communion!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Can't we all just get along!
I Hate Religion
· 3 years ago
Ok everybody, lets all hold hands and sing!
Cume bye ya my friends, Cume bye ya! Lets just forget about all the crimes and sins against nature that preachers do, because they are people too, they can't help it if they are called by God Special, it's not their fault, they were just minding their own business, when all of the sudden, out of millions and millions God rose up and called Shitlist to preach, he didn't want to be a preacher, but God called him anyway and there were so many souls to be saved, and so many children to molest and so much money to be made. Judge not lest ye be judged, you would do the same thing if you had access to little children too. Besides Shitlist can run back to jesus and get saved and instant forgiveness, jesus is just sitting around waiting for us all to sin and commit heinous crimes and sins, just so he can forgive us poor ignorant sinners. Do not forget that jesus loves you, he hates the sin, but jesus loves you. Jesus forgives all sins and loves to forgive us of our filthy sins, jesus can and will forgive us of any crime or sin, the bigger the crime, the greater the forgivenes. So if you really want jesus to forgive you big time, just commit a huge crime, no crime or sin is too big for jesus to forgive.
Cume bye ya my friends, cume bye ya!
Remember folks, keep those crimes and sins comming, jesus is just waiting to forgive you, he has nothing else to do!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Today is the 11th ---anything new?
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
There is nothing anyone can say to change my mind about shifflett. I know there are many things that he has done that are evil and the very sight of him makes me ill! But, what I wanta know is if he abused you, why would you go around him, go to his church for family events and yardsales. That's what I don't get. This same victim has allowed a family member to take their children around this abuser. This same victim has a family memeber still attending his now church. Why would you even associate with a family member that is backing a man that abused you? That's what I would like to have someone answer for me. In my view that's what makes it hard for some of his followers to believe he is guilty because they have seen this victim at their church and even speaking to shifflett. If he did things to me, no way in this life time would I have any association with this creep. If a family function was held there then I would not attend. I think it would have been better for the other victims if this victim would have just stayed out of it cause of the association they have had with shifflett since the abuse happened. It has made some of his followers still believe in shifflett!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Not sure just what you are talking about but maybe this thought would help: I think people have different ways of dealing with things that happen and if you feel no one is going to belive you anyway then maybe it is easier to put it in the back of your mind and try to pretend it did't happen OR Trying to go on and live your life might be a way to show the person that did you wrong that you do not fear them. I think that there are others still out there is this case that have stayed away and don't want to face what happen to them.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
I am pretty sure that there are a lot of victims that have not stepped foot in his church once they got away. Me being one of them. No one believed me when I talked to them and I know that there are many who still don't. Or they just say if i could change things i would, but it's all in the past so just leave it alone. Boy have I heard that one alot. But we can still prevent this from happening to others, but people are afraid to stand agains Shifflett. I know that he has somethings he knows about others and that is why they are still behind him. They don't want anything to come out about them...maybe affairs????? or whatever. They apparently don't realize that the only people they are hurting are their children or grandchildren. You don't have to worry about me ever stepping one single toe nail around Shifflett or his so called church or any events that he has to raise more bail money. Tom Reese has got to run out sooner or later. Has anyone heard anything about the 11th yet?
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Yes....I heard that Shifflett was exonerated for all the false allegations accused by trailer trash and will become the Mayor of Culpeper....Wow, how things have there way of turning out.
HappyInJesus
· 3 years ago
August 22nd is quickly approaching and the trial date will finally be set. The Grand Jury has already confirmed that there is enough evidence to pursue 7 felony charges. Stay strong Chad, Liz, Woody, and Robert! We're behind you and praying for you. For all the others who have not come forward yet, this is your chance to finally stop Shifflett. Please don't allow this opportunity to pass and Shifflett to go free by your silence. You'll never get another chance if you let this one pass. I still see him with that stupid smile on his face, sitting down at 7-11 making a mockery out of his victims. It's your opportunity to stop him, don't let him abuse you all over again!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Make sure you log on to jeriwho.net and listen to the podcast of the Lambs of Culpeper starting next Monday. It will run for 5 days and will give the details of the Chuck Shifflett abuse case. She interviews the victims who will give their experiences with Shifflett. You people at First Baptist Church who support Shifflett, listen to these podcast and see what kind of person you all worship! I hope that Shifflett gets life in prison with no parole for what he has done.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Go listen to the podcast of the Lambs of Culpeper at Jeriwho.net. The first of five was very enlightening. What these poor kids must have gone through! You're a sick bunch at First Baptist Church of Culpeper to allow yourselves to be associated with Chuck Shifflett. How can you sit there and listen to this abuser "preach"? Poor Chad, Woody, Liz and Robert as well as the others that have been afraid to come forward up to now. You can hear the pain in their voices! Here's the opportunity to hear the truth from the victims. Chuck, how can you face the people of Culpeper or your family knowing what you're quilty of? I feel so sorry for his wife, kids, and grandkids. They're the innocent ones who will stick with him to the end. God have mercy on you Chuck because it's clear that you don't care about anybody but yourself.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
His poor wife..? She has allowed him to continue all this abuse, In my eyes she's just as quilty as he is! She acts likes she's above others anyway. All decked out in her fancy clothes and acting like she's married to god himself.Get real people, she's a big part of the whole situation. Acting all humble and has all the wives feeling sorry for her. she's a inabler that's all! I mean she has stood back and watched him have numerous affairs with females of the church and you know she sat back and watched him degrade these innocent children and abuse them in ways that are no where near godly. I think she is as guilty as him cause she is a mother and how would she feel if some so called preacher did these things to her girls the way he has done to these innocent children that looked up to him, I don't think she would have sat back and allowed that to happen. So, she turned her back on these children and allowed the old Devil to have his way with them. Shame on you! However, I do feel sorry for the innocent grandchildren they diden pick their grandparents! If you sleep with the Devil you also wake up with the Devil!!!!!!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
I've just listened to the Lambs of Culpeper on jeriwho.net. Wow! what an eye opener. Chuck Shifflett should be locked away where he can't hurt another child. Why is he still walking the streets of Culpeper and pastoring a church? The man is a criminal! Protect your children if you're still supporting Shifflett. What's wrong with you people.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
I just listened to the podcast. It bought back every feeling I had as a teenager at Ripley Community Church over 35 years ago. The feelings of being alone, afraid to tell because you'd be called a liar and a sinner. Afraid to that your family would be made to also reject you and see you as evil. It actually made me gag to hear Chuck's voice again. What an evil, evil man. Janet is just Pathetic. She must really enjoy the position of being "Preacher's Wife" to turn a blind eye. My heart felt sorrow for each and every victim...even those of us from 35 years ago.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
If he abused you 35 years ago, please let the investigators know now even if the statue of limitations has run out. It will show a pattern and make the case against him stronger. We can't let him get off for what he's been doing for so long and will continue to do if we don't stop him. Please, come forward and tell your story. For the victims sake and for your peace of mind, please let the authorities know.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Go HERE...............................Jeri Massi;jeriwho;BASSENCO;Grace Jovian.....PLEASE LISTEN TO TAPES!!!!!! You owe it to the victims!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Circus ringleader Shifflet bought a used school bus from the local school system surplus sale yesterday. It has tinted windows. It's bad enough that he is allowed to drive a bus with kids as it is, but now he can drive one with tinted windows which could hide anything he may do!
The bus is parked in front of his circus tint at the skating rink. You can't miss it.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Christians and non Christians I hope everyone will take the time to listen to the tapes and hear the evil that lurks among us. They are very telling of the man I knew shifflett is. In the lambs04 tape it was the most evil and also confirms my thoughts that shiffletts wife Janice was apart of his evil and wicked ways! She's not as innocent as she leads people to believe. Some say she is as much as victim as the ones in the tape but In my view she doesn't look like, nor act like a victim. I say, she likes the roll she is playing and enjoys all the benefits from it too. I just would like to know where was all the men of the church where during all this abuse? They had to have know of some of the abuse that shifflett was dishing out to these children. Listening to inserts of his sermons how could you believe this man to be a Godly man when he speaks with such a wicked tongue. I think there was alot of people that let these children down,some parents,the elders, Deacons,teachers, of this church. How could they stand by and allow these things to happen? I don't care what you was gonna loose or if you had to leave the church, at least you would know that you tried even if you diden succeed in helping these young victims that evidently had no one to listen to them or believe them. I would like to say to the victims that I as a christian am sorry for what you have went through, most of all I am sorry that there where no adults willing to stand up for you at the time cause they where worried about themselves and what they would have to give up, not keeping in mind what these young victims where giving up then and now! God Bless you victims and may you see justice.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Hey Anonymous from Ripley can you a give a hint of who you are? I was there too.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
LAMBS OF CULPEPER is here:
http://www.jeriwho.net/lillypad2/blogger.htm
Look on the left side as you scroll down. She has them in a short list. Right click each one to download and save. They're each about 15 MB long.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
"Hey Anonymous from Ripley can you a give a hint of who you are? I was there too. "
Here is a hint as to who I am... the church statred in the basement of my aunt & uncle. This uncle is also Janet's older brother.
Now it's your turn.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
One deacon who knew that Shifflett was a brute was Tom Reese himself. He warned Joshua Shifflett to get his son Jon out of that school. That was how Joshua found out his own brother was a brute. Tom Reese left the church a couple times over the way Chuck Shifflett acted. You'd never know now. What changed?
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
I tell you what changed, Chuck has something on Tom Reese and he's afraid to go against him. I'm not so sure that he can keep it hidden during the trial. I think that Chuck and Tom both are getting a little nervous about now. Chuck has some good lawyers and they may find a loophole but everybody knows now what Shifflett really is. Mary L., I heard both your children tell how you deserted them for Shifflett. Why don't you step up and do the right thing and tell what you know before it's too late. Maybe your children will forgive you if you support them now. I'm sure you know more about Shifflett than even his own wife knows. The community already knows the names of several of Shifflett's women "friends". It also appears that he has an eye for young men as well after listening to Chad. We believe you Chad! Don't let this monster get away with what he has done. The community of Culpeper needs to unite and run Shifflett out of town like in the old days. Yet, he's still buying buses and bringing children into his circus tent every Sunday. Don't wait until he does something to one of your children or grandchildren.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
ok...i'll play!
was your last name the same as Janets maiden name? I use to be on the same bus route with Chuck. I am 46 and have 5 letters in my first name and 9 in my last. I still live in Charles County...."your turn!"
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Hint #2 : My last name wasn't Pipes. (I'm blood-related to Claude's wife, Audrey.)
I'm 51 and my first name is actually two names.
I was always considered to be a "bad" kid. Chuck called me a "hippie"....Meaning that I had a mind of my own and I used it. I expressed my own thoughts and opinions and didn't blindly agree with what ever Chuck or anyone said.
any guesses?
Now your next hints.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Hey that sounds alot like me....lol
klujic
· 3 years ago
Hay are ya'll afraid of Chuck. Nobody better ask the about the checks I saw theat were written for cash. I wasted 14 yrs at that church and I am tired of him getting by like nothing has happened. If you know something you need to testify. Too many people have been hurt to let this continue. You don't need to say who you are on here, go to the authorities.
Joe Curtis
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
It's not just Chuck hun! They're all frauds and crooks. You will not find one preacher that is not cheating or lying in some capicity, Chucky just happen to get caught, this had been going on for years before he got caught, and these are the cases that can be proved.
The whole problem is you're all trying to make a myth become true, you're all trying to believe a lie.
A lie will always be a lie, a myth will always be a myth.
So you all pay a preacher tell you what you want to hear, and if he does not tell you what you want to hear, you'll get rid of him and get another, I've seen this done so many times.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
"They're all frauds and crooks". Of course they are. We all are. That's the real point. We're frauds and crooks who need the righteosuness of Christ. But the oldest and most often used ploy of wolves in sheep's clothing is to get people to think of themselves (or think of the preacher) as inherently righteous and aboce sin.
If you don't believe the Bible, fine. But what these apes are doing has nothing to do with what the Bible actually teaches.
Every pastor is a sinner and every Christian in the pew is a sinner. We rejoice and have every reason to be humble because a great mercy has been given to us.
These proud deceivers lead people astray through pride. But your declaration that ever preachers pulls crap like what SHifflett has pulled is as stupid as any sweeping statement is stupid. There are pastors who faithfully represent what Christ has done for them. But you won't find them proclaimionghow godly they are.
If you want to find a good preacher, find one who proclaims Jesus Christ our righteousness. And yes, you will have took for a long time and with great scrutiny, but you will find a few.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Look at William Booth, founder of the Salvation Army, or Mother Teresa, who lived in the streets of Bombay, or Gladys Aylward who crossed miles of barren terrain to bring orphans to safety from Japanese forced recruitment. Were they swindlers? Sinners, yes! Frauds, no!
madisonone
· 3 years ago
i was completely outraged when his "followers" came to my door this past saturday to "invite me and my family to the sunday "service. i guess to have more victims under his wing. i have read all of the comments on this page. i am related to one of the older victims and as far as waiting 16-20+ years to come forward i'm sure the good preacher took all self confidence and braverly that those men and women had long ago. i pray that the victims continue to have such courage and i know that my god will protect them and keep them strong now. Preacher shifflett... diffently NOT a man of god, not a man at all. no matter what happens in court the chuck will have to face his judgement in the end. that is when the justice that you all say you pray for will prevail.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
madisonone......What did you say to them when they ask you to come to their church..? Was it a women or man ..?
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
madisonone.....you were "outraged" because the followers were inviting you to church??.....are they suppose to stop doing the lords work because of a screwball preacher.....there are honest people that do attend the circus tent and still want to carry on their committment to christ. I think people are judging everyone elses intentions based on chuck.....chuck is the maniac!!.....focus your "outrage" on him!!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Chuck left Ripley Community Church in 1979 or 1980 because he would not let a certain teenage girl wear pants on a snow skiing trip....her parents were angry and the pastor called him down....Chucks conviction that it's a sin for a woman to wear pants was his downfall at Ripley....the pastor asked chuck to show him that biblically....chuck told him that issue was a conviction and resigned as associate pastor of Ripley!....I know, I was the one who told the pastor of that crazy conviction!!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
>>>are they suppose to stop doing the lords work because of a screwball preacher.....<<<
How can a person do the Lord's work in church led by a power-mad, abusive, Bible-defying, self-glorifying apostate? If people want to do the Lord's work for the Lord's sake, then they need to get out of Shifflet's evil and counterfeit church and go to a Biblically obedient church that glorifies Christ and not a man (or men).
I'd be as polite as possible if such people came knocking on my door, but I would make it clear to them that they are NOT glorifying God by keeping that apostate man in the pulpit. He needs to be put out of the pulpit, put out of the church, and excommunicated from Christian fellowship.
As for the Ripley church, I had understood that the man who had been pastor there had always kept Chuck in check. I thought it wasn't until he got to Culpeper that Shifflett found a place where he could cut loose.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Alton Flowers was the Pastor at Ripley Community Church for years. I left there in 1972/73. Chuck used to tell us to keep our Bibles in the seat between us when we went out on dates. I wonder if he did that with his wife's best friend???
Jeri
· 3 years ago
My site has been restored. If anybody tried to listen to LAMBS OF CULPEPER yesterday and could not get through, it is up and running again.
There is a fundamentalist named Damon Medeiros who has been hassling the victims of former Pastor Bob Gray on the FFF. He uses his screen name of PappaBear. A forum member asked me to help and ID'd him for me. I verified it, and I identified him on my blog.
Yesterday I tried to go to my own site,and all I got was my provider's login. And it would not let me log in (Pow Web).
So I rang them up and asked what was wrong. The first girl I talked to was polite. She told me that they had received a letter from Damon Medeiros complaining about me, and I had violated their terms of service. I told her I had identified him, I had not slandered him.
She was still polite, and she told me that he had been threatened. So then I asked her to view my site if she could. And I told her I document church abuse cases, and this man, under his screen name of PappaBear, had been hassling alleged church abuse victims. I said I doubted that anybody had threatened him. I told her that if I took down that post, that he would be free, once again, to harass victims anonymously.
I asked if I could take my appeal up the line from her. She agreed at once. I was put on hold for a long time, and then she said a Supervisor would call me as soon as possible.
So I hung up, but I saw that my web pages were already all restored. Then within an hour "Michelle" called me, and she told me that Pow Web had received a letter from Damon Medeiros alleging that I was running a scam site, a web scam. She didn't say anything about him being threatened.
I really got mad (at him, not her) but I asked her to look at the site and see for herself that it's not a web scam. She told me she could see that and the site would not be turned off again, but she had to forward the matter to their Business Operations level, and I would probably hear from them within a few days. She told me the site never should have been turned off, and my posting of Damon Medeiros' name is considered "a third party matter" that Pow Web does not interfere with.
So the site is safe, at least for now. I didn't want to crow about this on my blog because Damon is a persuasive communicator. I don't want more trouble for throwing his name around there. But I did want to make it public.
Jeri
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
How can a person do the Lord's work in church led by a power-mad, abusive, Bible-defying, self-glorifying apostate? If people want to do the Lord's work for the Lord's sake, then they need to get out of Shifflet's evil and counterfeit church and go to a Biblically obedient church that glorifies Christ and not a man (or men).
If God is so perfect, how could he have made such a big mistake as to call Chuck Shifflett?
A perfect God cannot make mistakes, remember?
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Wolves in sheep's clothing have been around since the times of the Old Testament prophets. The Lord Jesus himself taught about the wheat and the tares growing together until the final day, when they all get sorted out.
And then He was crucified by the religious leaders of His day. Christianity does not teach that life is grand if you have faith in God and love your fellow man. It teaches that you get crucified for stuff like that. The world is full of religious fakes, and the fakes will kill you if they get a chance.
Remember the old "Take up your cross and follow me" refrains? He wasn't saying you are bearing your cross to go build a raft. You are bearing your cross to go be crucified.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Ripley Community Chuch---that brings back some memories I liked Pastor Flowers. I spent my teen years there too and had a good time. Made friends that I still have. As far as Chuck goes sounds like something change after I left or maybe I just didn't see it. Whatever I liked my teen years! Janet's best friend--did her name start with "J"? Think I know who you are talking about.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
I have just listened to the Lambs of Culpeper, all 5 of them, and OH MY GOD!!!! This brings back so many rotten memories that I had blocked out. It made me feel like that teenage girl trapped in Shifflett's web and noone would believe what we told anyone about him. I, alot like Woody and Liz, know that there is a God and believe that there is a God, but just cannot understand WHY!!! I have not found a church yet that I have felt comfortable in enough to stay. I always fear for my children to go to church because I just don't trust anyone. I have a lot of issues in my life because of how I was brought up and the things that I went through at Calvary and at home growing up. The people that you thought that you could trust turned out to be the ones that you couldn't. As a child you are supposed to be able to trust your parents and preachers, but they turned out to be the one that you didn't even want to be around. When I got in trouble at school and Chuck would take me into his office to talk and tell me how much of a "screwed up teenager I was and how I would never amount to anything and I was a slut and a hoar" and then you go home and try to tell your parents and they say that what the preacher says is true cause he is a "man of God" and was only saying that "cause he cares" what was a teenager to do. Or when you got beat up (as I call it) by someone who is supposed to love you and care so much as say that is what you deserve when you talk about the preacher and live the way you do. And Chuck backed them up and told them that is what they were supposed to do. No I don't think so. That is not what should have ever happened. I would never do that to anyone I love and no preacher will ever tell me how to raise my kids. One thing I have vowed is that I will always listen to my children and make darn sure that if my kids ever come to me with anything like this God help whoever tries to hurt my family.
I pray that Charles Shifflett is punished to the full extent of the law and that Tom Reese won't be able to get him out again. As for the person who said that they think that Charles Shifflett has something on Tom Reese I totally agree with you. I think that he has something on a lot of people and when he goes down he will pull them right along with him. As for Chad Liz Woody and Robert thank you for coming forward and letting the world know about Charles Shifflett. This could save some of the children of the future. Thank you Jerri for doing your interviews and putting it out for the public to hear. Praying for justice for all of the victims even the ones that didn't come forward.
Jeri
· 3 years ago
Thanks for the review! Please keep getting the word out
Again, for new visitors, the URL for the main page for LAMBS OF CULPEPER is this:
http://www.jeriwho.net/lambs/lambs.htm
I'll try it in HTML text to see if I can create an interactive link:
The series is in five parts, and there is a version for high-speed and one for dial up. There is also a link to purchase LAMBS on CD, for anybody who wants to pass it around. But it is free to download for yourself.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
ok, ok. sister mary cannot defend nor help her children because of the love for her preacher? what about sister brenda jenkins? she loves her preacher shifflett and STILL has time for her family. sister brenda has been seen in the skating rink parking lot with her arms around shiffletts neck, they were kissing in a manner which is not fitting for "best friends"! perhaps it is true that sister brenda's husband has left her because of the ongoing affair with shifflett? This is not a lie. This was witnessed by people in front of the skating rink in the parking lot at the little store in front of the rink. ever wonder why shifflett and brenda get to church so early every sunday?
Betty B
· 3 years ago
I just cannot believe what is being said about Mrs. Jenkins. I know her family. She comes from a good family of Christian people. I have worked with her brothers through the years. My oldest sister is currently dating Mrs. Jenkins' brother and believe me that Mrs. Jenkins' family is a good, solid, nondeceiving family. I don't think they would do anything to hurt anyone. I wish you would get your facts straight before you write about Shifflett and Mrs. Jenkins!
Sharon WouldUlikeToKnow
· 3 years ago
I want everyone to know that i am kin to the two leake victims, close kin. woodie and liz are good people. liz's husband and kids are the sweetest people you would ever want to meet, they would never harm anyone. woodie would never harm anyone. i don't know the rest of the victims. i have experienced a similar situation in my own life, the law enforcement turned their backs on me. I hope and pray that justice will be carried out for liz and woodie. i, like these victims, was molested and abused by an older man when i was 14 yrs old, i finally worked up the courage 6 years ago to tell of my experiences. i am now 49 years old. time doesn't matter when you come forward. i pray for all children of the community and of the world. I especially pray for all the children currently attending First baptist church of culpeper because the good pastor is now hauling kids around on his new school/church buses!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
I wouldn't give you a plugged nickle for any of those melon heads that followed Shifflet from Calvary Baptist to First Baptist. They don't care about what's right; they don't care about these serious charges. They just want their fat, porcine idol with his big leering grin to stand in the pulpit every week and tell them that God likes them best (because they wear the right clothes and listen to the right music).
Whether Brenda Jenkins is having an affair with Preacher or not, she's embracing a falsehood and turning her back on inocent victims. She is not a good Christian lady. She loves and believes a lie, as does Mary, the mother of woody and liz. I hope they never escape their public shame until they repent of their hard heartedness.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
you know I believed alot of the stuff wrote her till the things about Brenda J. It's then that I realized that alot of what you read here is just a bunch of crap like shifflett. Brenda and her husband aren't seperated and I know that someones sister isn't dating one of her brothers. What a bunch of nonsense! I don't know about her relationship with shifflett and don't wanta know! But I do know about the other things first hand. Why would you come on here claiming your love for Christ and tell such lies? Your day is coming just like shifflett's !!!!!!!!!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
BettyB....where did you get all your info from??? which brother of Brenda's is dating your older sister ? you worked with them for years, then I should know you. Who are you?
justthefacts
· 3 years ago
what a bunch of crap you all are... comments are comments/sinners are sinners. you all should get a life and let god's work run its course. shifflett is no man of the lord's and for those saying that these victims are lying i have a ? for you... are the victims that came forward years ago from the church in Maryland also lying. what about the black children that attended calvery 10-15+ yrs ago that were call racial names and beaten severly, and tourmented by this man of god?? Brend j, blenda and mary have all commited adultry w/ your good minister and these are facts. they have been seen (all 3 women) on more than one occassion in the calvery baptist basement rubbing, kissing and on their knees (in a not-fo-holy way) with shifflett **** as for the current members of chuck's current "house of the devil" they shouldnt be supported for their efforts to spead god's word, when they are just as ignorant as shifflet for supporting such a monster. furthermore i feel that all the parents that attend first baptist church should be charged with child endagenment for having their children there. ** what a crock of shit to say that this is a good man, no matter who says it these are children,now grown saying that your man of god violated them and they now have lost there faith in the lord. as far as the person critizing them coming to your door to "invite" you to the church, you should have slapped them all and slammed the door in their face for being the devils fools. A GROWN MAN ACCUSED OF BEATING, MOLESTING, DEMEANING, FRAUD, THEFT, ADULTRY, ETC.... COME ON, HOW MANY CHARGES WILL IT TAKE!!!!! WAKE UP CULPEPER, **THE DEVILS MESSENGER LIVES NEXT DOOR TO YOU ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Well if you're so sure he's guilty, why are you saying "you all should get a life and let god's work run its course." Do you really beleive, in the face of so much evidence, that responsible adults should just sit back and let events go their own way?
I think you're wrong (or at least incoherent). We need to confront the allegations, gather the evidence, and make sure that bad sheriff and idiotic Commonwealth Attorney don't let this case come to nothing. God expects us to act on behalf of what is right,not sit back like a bunch of rocks and "let god's work run its course". God commands that His people intervene against evil and take action on behalf what is right.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
I want to answer the one who stated that the people from First Baptist who were visiting were doing the Lord's work. How on earth is inviting people to come to a church that has a child molester as a pastor doing the Lord's work. What in God's name is wrong with you people? Shifflett is a preditor of the worst sort. He preys on helpless children. The stupid adults that support him deserve what they get but what about the innocent children? I know a lot of people that go to First Baptist and sit under Shifflett and I've tried to give you the benefit of the doubt but I realize that you're as wicked as he is. When he's convicted and the truth is presented in open court, I don't want to hear one "I'm sorry" from any of you bunch of nuts. You all will be branded right along with Shifflett and you deserve it. If you follow him, then you agree with him.
Shifflet WILL ROT
· 3 years ago
~Dear BETTY B~ You are telling a bunch of crap. How is it that your oldest sister is dating Mrs. Jenkins' brother?? HMM tell me that? When they are both married? You are making this up and you are talkin about stuff that you don't even know about ,so, I say it's best you keep your mouth shut from now on.THANKS!!! and just to let you know I and whoever else, can say what we want about Shifflet and there isnt a thing you can do about it. Your just as Looney as the people that follow him. I'll be praying for you cause ,honey, you need all the help you can get!!!!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Chuck Shifflett is married too. Why is everybody picking on everybody when shifflett is the guilty one? See, all the trouble he is still causing.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
>>>Shifflett will rot said: ~Dear BETTY B~ You are telling a bunch of crap. How is it that your oldest sister is dating Mrs. Jenkins' brother?? HMM tell me that? When they are both married?<<<
Well, that never stopped Shifflett....
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
I think I might know who you are Betty B. And I can tell you right now, you are full of crap. I know both of Brenda Jenkins' brothers and I know that they are both happily married. Just because being married never stopped Chuck doesn't mean that her brothers are just like him. You need to get you facts straight before you start typing Betty B. Chuck Shifflett is a sorry, no good, nasty, child molesting, peice of crap and so are the people who follow him. If someone had come to my door inviting me to go to church with them, I can tell you right now they would never come back and they would tell others not to come by either. If they can sit there and listen to him each week and watch him prey on other innocent children then they are just as guilty as him. What I want to know is when he is proven guilty and everything comes out and he starts taking others down with him they what are you going to do? Who is going to take over his cult then? Or are you just going to try to go back to Calvary like you have been there all along and beg for forgiveness? Shame on all of you.
InTheKnow
· 3 years ago
Anonymous of 7/29 is none other than Betty Lou Hamilton (Mudd).
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Who is this Betty Lou Hamilton and what is her revelence to the Shifflett case? If Shifflett is going to be stopped, then people who know what he is or what he has done need to come forward NOW! Just sitting around and waiting for some else to do it is going to result in Shifflett getting by with physical and sexual abuse. What's wrong with you people? The man raped a young boy several times and abused a young girl and these are just the two that had the guts to come forward. God only knows how many he has really abused. If you know something that could help these victims, how can you live with yourself if you don't go to the authorities. What if the next victim is your child or grandchild? Please, I beg you, help these children if you can.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Who is Betty Lou Hamilton? And what is her connection to shifflett and Brenda J., since she seems to know so much about them she must be close to the situation in some way. I hope someone here knows who and what she is. If so please inform me...
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Is this the ms. betty they still talk about that is still going to shifflett's church...?
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
No, you're talking about Betty Brooks. She's the one who followed Shifflett to First Baptist and who allows her young son to work with him. She also allowed Shifflett to continue his school in her home. Everyone knows that she and Preacher Shifflett are extra special friends.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
see what kind of reputation you get when you follow or be associated with a so called person like shifflett. this is for Betty and if the shoe fits wear it.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
see what kind of reputation you get when you follow or be associated with a so called person like shifflett. this is for Betty and if the shoe fits wear it.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Association with a man like Shifflett and a ministry like First Baptist Church of Culpeper just shows the condition of the church and so called "christians" today. The Lord said that there would be a great falling away before he comes in the rapture. Shifflett and his followers have taken this statement to the extreme. I still attend Calvary Baptist Church and what a sweet spirit there is in the services now that Shifflett has gone. I no longer feel the demonic suppression that was there when Shifflett tried to "preach". There is liberty and joy in each service because the power of God is present. Even though the people did not know the extent of Shifflett's sin, God did, and it was evident in Shifflett's lack of ability to preach anything except what he heard on a tape from First Baptist Church of Hammond. God just refused to talk to him so the church started to decline in the mid 90s. Thank God for some men and women who finally stood up to him and are holding him accountable. August 22nd is coming and a trial date will finally be set. If anyone knows anything else, please come forward now and get this child molester off the street and out of the pulpit.
Hawk
· 3 years ago
Well, Calvary's a church, a corporate entity. And you're quick to claim blessing, but what are you doing to reach out to the victims of Charles Shifflett who were mere children when he oppressed them as part of you, part of the corporate, church body called Calvary? Have you done anything to right that wrong and vindicate the mercy and justice of God? Or do those young people simply and conveniently become part of something that happened "back then" that is not your responsibility.
Christianity has become weak and indifferent. And if you are saying your church is no longer that way, then go find those victims and minister grace and mercy to them. The blessing of God is not just in feeling free and easy; otherwise anaesthetic is the blessing of God. The blessing of God is the power and knowledge to live out Christ among men.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
I say that there is bad and good in most churches as far as the teachings go. when it comes to abuse both mentally and sexually shifflett thinks he's above the law and his people think that too. My way of thinking is stay home read your bible, and pray daily and most important of all keep your children there with you to keep them from the evil that lurks around us. But most of all keep them away from Shifflett and his brain washing powers. God help the people at firat baptist to break free from his clutches that bind them so deeply.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Congratulations, In The Know! You’ve guessed who I am.... Betty Lou Hamilton (Mudd). My hints were pretty Obvious. So are you going to say who you are? This guessing game between us has these poor people very confused. And I am soory for that! So to avoid any further speculation I’ll clarify who I am and what connection I have with Shifflet.
I was raised at Ripley Community Church. This church actually started in the basement of my Aunt and Uncle. (Janet (Pipes), Chuck’s wife, is a sister of my uncle.) Chuck was the Asst. Pastor when I was a teenager. And my personal opinion of him at that time (as it is today) is that he was an ignorant, pompous ass given to bulling and manipulating others to feel good bout himself. As I remember it, Chuck and I had a mutual loathing for each other. He hated the fact that I couldn’t be manipulated or bullied. I questioned his authority just because I got a kick out of making him angry. I wasn’t like the other poor teenagers who seemed so desperate for his approval that they would blindly believe anything he said. I left Ripley church years 30+ ago.
Gratefully, I have no connection with the case against Chuck Shifflett. I don’t have any connections with “Brenda J” or any other parties involved with Chuck or the case against him. I have the greatest heart felt sympathy for any of his victims. And I support them and their bravery. I have seen Chuck only once since I left Ripley Community and that was at my Aunt’s funeral in 2002. I had no conversation with him or Janet. To be honest I didn’t recognized him. Although I should have...he was wearing that same cheap suit and dumb big-gummed re-necked grin I so painfully remembered.
My interest in this case is based solely on my enjoyment of watching Chuck get what he deserves.
To those closely involved with the case I apologize for any confusion our guessing game has caused.
To my fellow game player, "IN THE LNOW", how brave are you now that you have guessed who I am? Are you brave to expose yourself and your connection with Chuck Shifflet? Do you support him now as you probably did back at Ripley? You don't have to be afraid of him now.
I am…Betty Lou Hamilton Mudd.
Hawk
· 3 years ago
My way of thinking is stay home read your bible, and pray daily and most important of all keep your children there with you to keep them from the evil that lurks around us. But most of all keep them away from Shifflett and his brain washing powers.
The Bible specifically commands that Christians assemble together and congregate in orderly and lawful fashion. The key is not to disobey because the risks are too great, but to confront evil with knowledge and expel it from church office.
American Christians hate this idea. It seems undoable to them, but it is what the Bible teaches: we must practice what the Bible teaches, not only at home, but also in church.
And that means we must hold men accountable for what they teach when they teach error, and we must take seriously any charges brought against an elder for unruly conduct or shameful behavior.
If the Christians at Calvary had been serious about obeying God (instead of all that total loyalty crap to their "preacher") they would have shown Shifflett to the sidewalk in the first year of his abuses.
The answer is not to retreat further, especially now that we all know there have been victims of the most perverted sins. The answer is to know your Bible well enough so that when hucksters like Shifflett ascend the pulpit, you see him for the loathesom, apetite-driven spore that he is. And you do something about it.
And the answer is to act as a church to reach out to the victims. The church does owe that to those young people.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Betty lou Hamilton Are you the one that posted under the name Betty b ????
Betty Lou Hamilton Mudd
· 3 years ago
Sorry, I do not know who Betty B is or anyone else from his Virginia Churches.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Hey Hawk, what have you done for the victims besides tell everybody else what they should do? Everything thats been done hasn't been displayed in this forum for the world to see. It's between the victims and their supporters. Why don't you do something instead of just talking about it?
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
The church is doing all it can to help the victims by supporting them and cooperating with the investigators. The people that knew about the abuse left with Shifflett and are now attending the First Baptist Church of Culpeper. I still cannot understand why the Welfare Department allows Shifflett to be around children. I heard that he is planning to operate a school again this year. Where is the public out cry against this being allowed? He's continuing to operate buses and bring children to his evil excuse for a church. I can't understand the parents that allow their children to ride his buses in the first place. The Welfare Department needs to step in and defend the children!
Hawk
· 3 years ago
The church is doing all it can? Like what?
Did the members of Calvary attend the anti-child abuse rally? That's funny, there were only about 10 people who showed up.
Will the members of Calvary be at court next week to support the victims? Is there public prayer offered on their behalf?
Have the members phoned the victims to tell them they are concerned and are praying? Have the members offered to babysit during the court appearances? have they offered to bring food or help out while the victims are going through this grueling ordeal?
What, exactly, has the church done to reach out to the victims and care for them? Here's a hint, feelign bad, saying, "what a shame!" and boasting of God's blessings onthe church are NOT ways of helping the victims.
Hawk
· 3 years ago
Let the Lord be the judge. But when I hear the members of a church that fostered such abuse insist that all the guilty ones are gone, and they support the victims; and yet they never appear at the rallies or at court, I have my doubts. Don't confuse complacency with blessing.
curious
· 3 years ago
To "InTheKnow" - Betty Lou Hamilton asked you to identify yourself and YOUR connection to Shifflett. Are you going to play fair???
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
As a matter of fact, I was at the rally and there were about 25 there. The rally was organized by a member of our church. Yes, I have talked to the victims several times. There hasn't been a trial yet, so no, most people can't take off from work to go to the court house for 5 minutes of Shifflett's legal show. We'll wait until the trial starts. Also, the church didn't foster the abuse, one man, Charles Shifflett did and when we found out about it, we confronted him. You're right, God will judge and I'm satisfied that he knows the truth.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
It's so easy to say "Whew! Glad that's over." But there's a trail of broken lives behind that church. And considering that some of the victims have paid with years of unhappiness and bitter secrets, yes, the members of that church COULD attend the hearings and the rallies.
Twenty-five is a small representation. Once upon a time you'd pack into the church for hours to get a pat on the head from a man who turned out to be a monster. You could turn out for an hour on Tuesday morning to vindicate the righteousness and mercy of God.
If time is so short, cancel prayer meeting next week and go to the arraignment instead. You can pray together with sorrow for your errors and publically profess your hope in God before the session convenes. If you do that, you'll be a better example next Tuesday of what a church is than you ever have been before.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
There was alot of people that still go to calvary that was there when he resigned several times, when there was thousands of dollars token from the church, and then there was the allegations of abuse that where bought forth to the church years ago and it was all swept under the shifflett evil carpet. Why wasn't there more done then before he destroyed more lives?? You all know what he is capable of and you stand by and watch him build his tent followers even bigger than when the first allegations where public knowledge. If you are culpeper citizens shoulden you be heard alittle more than you have? Shifflett sure has! No matter the outcome of the trial he has made is mark by still having services where young children are present and spreading his evil thoughts he calls preaching with any fool that will listen. We know the adults of his circus tent are gone beyond the point of no return, they have proved that when a mother goes against her own children, wives against husbands and families against families. A large precentage of his followers will turn on their own family if anything is said against the man they claim is a godly man. Shifflett has not only destroyed the lives of his young victims but also alot of good families because he has driven a wedge between them and loving every minute of it! I just wish that more of you culpeper residents would stand up and be heard before it's to late. He's got his followers, a tent, a bus, that's all he needs to take over and continue his same pattern of physical and mental abuse. It's gonna take more people standing up against him and going to social service again, again and going to the right people when he's been seen sunday after Sunday engaging in small talk with 2 of the victims mother when that is a clear violation of the terms set forth for his bond. This has all been printed on here several times by the people of calvary. I wonder when you state that shifflett will get his when judgement day comes, that maybe God gave you the good sense to do something while shifflett is here on earth! STAND UP CULPEPER!!!!!!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
In all these comments, I have not heard one negative comment from the people that are attending his church right now....I haven't heard of one incident of abuse or fornication from any other church that Shifflett was associated with other than Calvary Baptist....sounds like Shifflett is being "railroaded" by the inbreds of Calvary Baptist....it's funny to me that this man continues his ministry....and looks like it continues to grow amongst all the critizism and negative press....maybe God doesn't see him as guilty as the common man does....and it sounds like a lot of common people attend Calvary Baptist....Beware of how you treat the man that God has chosen to spread the gospel....Gods wrath is more powerful than mans!!!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
God's chosen one to spread the Gospel..SHIFFLETT??? It's people like anoymous above that talk about things they don't even know about, evidently you haven't never met this man of evil they call preacher Shifflett. He's like a modern day Jim Jones. The only reason he has so many followers following him is because they are allowed to believe that whatever they do in life all they got to do is ask for forgiveness and all is good. Look at what he has done and they still believe and follow him. I have heard it all....This old world is in for it if they follow shifflett and his beliefs, like abusing children, engaging in flings with his congragation, Taking money from the church, marrying step brothers and sisters. If this is your definition of a GOSPEL man then any sane person that's not under his spell would not want anything to do with church or religion.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
"Things I don't know about??"....I have known Chuck Shifflett for over 30 years and he is no Jim Jones....evidently you don't know him!....how many people has Chuck given poison to??....I don't know of any incidents like that concerning this man....anyone that is called to preach is inspired by God....(Chuck has been preaching for over 30 years!)so God must've called this man to preach since he has allowed him to do it for over 30 years....I'm just not sure this man has done everything that he is accused of....yes, Chuck is as goofy as they come and i'm sure he has made many mistakes LIKE ALL HUMANS DO!! but GOD will be the judge of this man, not some trailer trash sitting in Culpeper Virginia! so all you accusers BEWARE....YOUR sins will find you out!!!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Making mistakes is one thing, but sexually abusing children, mistreating children, harassing childen, beating children, intimidating and humiliating them is down right evil. On top of that he threatened them not to tell. If this is what all human do, then I would rather be an animal. To the person who has known shifflett for 30 years: where did you meet him? How much inner reaction did you really have with him? Do you really know him?
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
I don't know who you are, but maybe you have something to hide and that is why you are supporting Charles Shifflett. I mean that is what you are doing right? I was raised there and put through the torture that Charles Shifflett gave. He is an evil man...and as for preaching, what he has been preaching is copies of tapes that he has of Jack Hyles. His preachings do not come from God. Unless you have been through the abuse that he gave, I don't think that you can comment on how much of a good person he has done and how he is doing God's work. The only work he is doing is evil work and he loves every minute of it. So yea like you said..."be sure YOUR sins will find you out." And if you or anyone else that backs Charles Shifflett up has anything to hide, be sure that he will bring you down with him.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
If you're not sure Chuck has done anything, then just wait until the trial. Wait until you hear the witnesses themselves testify of what Chuck did to them. I agree that people make mistakes but I don't consider sexual abuse and rape a mistake. I don't consider torture and humiliation of innocent children a mistake. You may have known him 30 years but the Chuck Shifflett we know is not only capable of such abuse but will be convicted by the evidence. I'm sure that Chuck did a lot of good for a lot of people, there's no denying that, but how much good justifies what he did to Liz, Chad, Woody, Robert and many others that have been afraid to come forward. These 4 young people represent a host of others that are to afraid or embarressed to go through this mess. The victims have been called liars and threatened for speaking out but thank God that they have the courage to do so. Chuck Shifflett is a criminal and I hope that the justice system puts him away for the rest of his life.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
I believe that you have known and believe in Shifflett for 30 years that's why you look down on others of different beliefs or race...Calling someone "trailer trash" is just the beginning of what he has taught you in his sermons along with the race thing. God loves us all wether we live in a new home or a cardboard box,black ,white or what religion you are. Shifflett teaches all other races and religions are wrong. we are all God's children and I will have to say that he even Loves Shifflett, even though my belief is he is not very happy the way he is even using him for his on gratification. I too have know shifflett for over 30 years even though I'm not proud of that fact! I've seen the vulgar ways he reacts to young girls and have heard from many of the students who are from his former church about the things he done to them or others. You must be one of those followers from his now circus tent, what does he have on you or what has he done to you? Why would anyone with half a brain keep going to his tent and listen to the garbage he's teaching these young people. There is no other reason for a mother to allow her child to be taught anything from this known pervert than she is his mistress or they are plan old brainwashed. I'm sure someone thought Ted Bundy,Jeffery Darmer, where good one time or another. How can a true christian stand by Shifflett when he has offered no explanation for what he has been accused of. He has stated he doesn't need to explain anything to his followers cause they trust and believe in him. I love my preacher too but, if he has been accused of mistreated children in the worse way I would want to hear his side of it and wait for the trial to bring forth all the evidence before I would support him and trust my children to be around him. Get real, nobody really can be totally trusted "other than GOD". How many marriages have ended cause of a cheating spouse that you have spent a life time with or how many have suddenly killed their own children or spouse. All this from a person you trusted and share your life with.The old Devil can take hold of them and keep them in disguise. No one really knows anyone So you better check your faith to Shifflett and see if your soul is worth giving up for him!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Again to you who has known shifflett for 30 years: I have known shifflett for 28 years and I remember the chaos he caused at Ripley and the ruction he caused at Faith Baptist. All his students couldn't stand him. Shifflett tortured and belittled them (the children) and had the parents fooled once again. He just didn't cross the line legally back then. However tying a young boy upside down on a moving bus is really mean. Why did he run away from these 2 churches? Maybe, he was run off? What preacher, man of God, has the children and teens hate him? I, myself don't hate him, but I sure don,t condone what he has done and I look forward to justice.
shelly
· 3 years ago
You write on here "how can this man be guilty if God has allowed him to 'preach' for so long"... God doesnt choose our paths for us, He gives us our own minds to make up our own decisions. Shifflett took the position of a pastor and used it to 'belittle, degrade,insult and molest' children and teenagers. I went to his church and school for about 9 years and have been told by him many times that I would never amount to anything. Shifflett wasnt a pastor, he was a creep that took a position and used it to have his hand in one way or another in everyones life. You comment on here like you lived in our shoes, attended his church and schools. You refer to the victims as Culpeper "trailor trash" and to Shifflett as a man of God. A man of God is supposed to teach you Gods Word and is to be a servant to his "congregation' like Christ was. Shifflett made the children be slaves in his place while he took all the credit and then degraded the boys and girls. I went to school with all but 1 victim and knew them personally and I back them 100%. Don't sit out there with your fake image of this man and sell it like you knew him or lived it. He wasnt a leader- he was a dictator, an abuiser, and he ruled people by fear not by love and instruction. God help you for backing this man over the victims that have come forward. The victims didnt have a chioce here..... Shifflett did and he SHOULD PAY. If your going to talk like you know it, you might as well sign your name to it, SHELLY
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
will this trial be open to the public since it involved children when the abuse occurred ????? And what will be happening on the 22 as far as the trial goes?
duh!!!
· 3 years ago
Shelly according to your statements which preacher is a true man of God? I know, they shall know them by their fruits, after they have molested and deceived thousands of people.
Guess what Shelly? They are all frauds, not one person is called by a god to preach, you've been fooled and deceived, so good luck in finding a true man of god, because there is no such thing!!! duh!!!!
Jeri
· 3 years ago
What happened "duh!"? Did God call you up and tell you that nobody is called to preach? So what does that mean, that you are called to say nbobody is called to preach? Doesn't that mean you are called? If they cannot be right in what they say, how can you be right in what you say? Who gave you the gift of making infallible statements?
Of course there are good men in the ministry who work sincerely and with profound faith. And yes, you can judge him by matching his actions against his speech. Shifflett's followers call his victims trash. Shifflett himself abandoned his pulpit rather than face a lawful inquiry from the leadership of his church. He has counter-accused the victims, thus violating the Scripture that commands that an elder be meek and not rail against others.
It doesn't matter if Shifflett brings Bonzo the gorilla into his church and declares him saved. Shifflett has openly and flagrantly disobeyed the Scripture. He is the best evidence that the alleged victims are telling the truth. And the people who follow him are simply witless and ignorant, not knowing the Scripture, trusting in short hair, dresses, and the "right music" for righteousness instead of the atoning work of Christ.
They are so ignorant, they don't see how ignorant they are; and their hard hearted, cultish wickedness is an open display of how empty and idolatrous Shifflet's teachings are.
Jeri
· 3 years ago
This reminder, you can catch up ob the Shifflett case by downloading LAMBS OF CULPEPER.
The URL for the main page for LAMBS OF CULPEPER is this:
http://www.jeriwho.net/lambs/lambs.htm
I'll try it in HTML text to see if I can create an interactive link:
The series is in five parts, and there is a version for high-speed and one for dial up. There is also a link to purchase LAMBS on CD, for anybody who wants to pass it around. But it is free to download for yourself.
I just mailed extra copies to Chad, Woody, Liz, and Archie Seale. So if you know any of these people, you might be able to borrow a CD of the documentary to listen to.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
I'm sure Chuck's family is aware of this website. I wonder why none of his family has come to his defense? Maybe they aren't so CERTIAN of his innocence. Where is his loving devoted wife? Why isn't Janet shouting her support for her wronged husband from every roof top? Where are his children and their spouses? What about the rest of his family??? (We know where one of his brothers stands!)
If someone I loved and trusted was accused of doing such terrible things and I knew it was not true; I'd be proclaiming their innocence to anyone who would listen.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
I'll tell you why Janet hasn't said anything, it's because she knows he's guilty. I know she knows about some of his affairs because she left him for awhile because of it. She even allowed some of the women that he's had affairs with to live in their house with them. I don't know if she's afraid or if she's part of the cover up. Chuck is a very violent person so maybe she is afraid for her own safety. She better come off this stupid loyality kick and tell the truth for the victims sake. I'll have to say, that she could have done alot better than Chuck Shifflett. I sure don't see what the women see in this goof ball.
Tina
· 3 years ago
I like Shelly went to school with Chad, Woody, and Robert. I didn't go to school with Liz, but I know her very well. There is no doubt in my mind that Charles Shifflett has done everything that he is accused of. I was there. I remember him telling me that I would never amount to anything, that I would never be good to or for anyone. If I had children they would turn out to be just as bad as me. Well I tell you I think I have done very well for myself and my family regardless of what Charles Shifflett said. He is a disgusting man who took advantage of his role as a preacher. He made the young people of Calvary Baptist fear his authority, and abused and belittled them for years. He even had some of the members of the church thinking that he was the person to worship not God. As you can see some of them still worship him and not God. I think that he thought that he could pick on me, because he knew that I could care less about him and I wasn't going to let the things that he said to me stop me from living my life. I stood up to him and told him how I felt. The only reason I was there is because I had to be. The first chance I got I was gone. I think I have been back to Calvary once or twice since I left in 1995. It still was the same and the people were still the same. I have not been back since Charles left and started his circus. I cannot believe that these people followed him and are still listening to him preach old Jack Hyles sermons. Do you know how safe your children are. How do you know that he is not doing the same thing to them. What is wrong with you people. Wake up and keep your children safe. I would think that social services would have stepped in by now. You people that follow him are crazy. Maybe you have something to hide, or maybe you are just so caught up in his cult, but remember this...if you have something to hide, be sure that it will come out in the trial. Becuase if Charles Shifflett is going down, besure that you will too.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Chuck has not been found guilty of any charges....only unproven allegations by trailer trash....the law does not consider this man to be a "threat" to any children or they would have stopped his ministry....again, a person is proven guilty, and Culpeper accusers are not the jury on guilt or innocense....all you haters of Chuck might be in for a rude awakening when the court finds this man to be INNOCENT....you have your hopes up so high that you might be in for a big let down....Liz, Woody, Chad and Robert, I'm not too sure you were real hurt by this man because of the length of time you took to fabricate your stories....I hope the law will consider "perjury" on all of you for the trouble you have caused this man out of pure hate and hope that your false allegations will not go unpunished....I'm not too sure Shifflett is as guilty as you say!!!Think about it!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
No your right, Chuck has not been found guilty yet, because there has not been a trial. If the courts weren't so sure then they wouldn't have set a trial date. Obviously they saw enough evidence to have a trial now didn't they. You must not have went to school when Chad, Liz, Woody, and Robert did...or you are still stuck in Chuck cult. You cannot say anything about how long it has taken them to come forward with what happen to them unless it has ever happened to you. Have you ever been molested or beaten by someone you are supposed to trust and love and count on to help you with your problems only for them to make it worse. If not then you can't say anything. I can, I have been there. It has taken me many years to come out with my secret and you know what it is still very hard to deal with 20+ years later. As a child you just don't know what to do when something like this has happened to you. I would think twice before you judge the victims and call them trailer trash....I do believe that he has a daughter that has cheated on her husband and lives in a trailer....and a daughter that has a husband that is nothing but a cheating drug dealing pervert...Need I say more about Trailer trash. I know this out of fact.... I also know the victims and know that they are very good people and would never lie about this. I know that there is proof of these allegations...you apparently have something going on with Chuck Shifflett. He knew that one day all of this would come out so he needed people like you close to him to back him up and support him. Just remember you just might be the one shocked about what might come out in the trial.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
why diden they get more of the children that where there when all of this evilness happened to come in and give their accounts to what they saw? I know several that they never questioned about what they knew and saw. Looks like they would have brought all the students in that was there during that time and have them testify to what they knew. I just think there are a few unturned rocks in this case. I'm sure Shifflett has more than a few officials in his old pervert pocket too!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
chuck used to live in a trailor, does that make him trash too?
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Yep....Pretty much!
shelly
· 3 years ago
The facts all around this case speak for themselves....Shifflett claimed to be a preacher during his rein at Calvary Baptist, and there have been tons and tons of accounts of how he has abusied and degraded teens and young children. Why do you think the church split so many times.... Good people found out what kind of show Shifflett was pulling and he had his grip on so many people that no one would believe them if they were to take a stand against him. Now if many adults felt that way, don't you understand how hard it was/is for a young person to stand up against their attacker in what ever form he attacked them. It has taken this long for the victims to call down this monster, cause they themselves are all grown up now and most have children of their own and as we look into our childrens face the reality of "If this ever happened to my babies" brings a whole new light on the fears that you have tucked way in yourself. I was never physically abuised by this creep, thank God, but verbally cuts just as deep, and who do you look up to when the leader is the one that is the abuiser. Don't judge the time that it has taken these STRONG people to come forward, they have the strength that MOST of US wish we had. I hope that this whole case has opened the eyes to the BELIEVERS in Shifflett, that even if they are to couwardly to admit it that they will keep a complete watch over there children and just maybe these children will escape Shiffletts hand......! Supporting you all from a distance, Shelly
Donald D.
· 3 years ago
What mere mortal can represent an invisible God?
None!!!
There is none! No human can speak for or represent an invisible god!!!
Why have you all allowed yourselves to believe such nonsense???
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Donald, if you just look around you and listen, God is everywhere. A beautiful sunset, the silver lining on the edge of the clouds, the sounds of water rushing over rocks, the sounds of birds chirping, the cry of a baby in the night, the whisper of "I love you" from a loved one, and the list goes on, but these my friend, is just a sample of God. However, God gives you the choice to believe in Him or not. I hope I am not offending you by sharing what I believe in.
boomSLANG
· 3 years ago
Fundanonymous # 1,837,493 said:
"Donald, if you just look around you and listen, God is everywhere."
No. Donald is right. "God" is in books and in your head, but nowhere else. Sure, "God" absolutely exists AS a concept---but so do leprechans, imps, and goblins. All religious belief concerning a "supernatural" being is based purely on subjective bias.(see the writer's examples below for some classic examples of the "lookist" argument for God)
Fundanonymous: "A beautiful sunset.."
Ahh, nothing soothes the soul like a beautiful tornado.
Fundanonymous: "the silver lining on the edge of the clouds.."
The black lining around a cancer cell.
Fundanonymous: "the sounds of water rushing over rocks.."
The sound of a tsunami rushing over people.
Fundanonymous: "the sounds of birds chirping"
The sound of dogs barking(at 3:00 in the morning)
Fundanonymous: "the cry of a baby in the night"
The cry in the night of a mother whose baby died from SIDS.
Fundanonymous: "the whisper of 'I love you' from a loved one."
The whisper of "If you leave me, I'll kill you" from a psycho one.
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We see that the "lookist argument for the existance of God", fails. Why?... because as usual, the apologist wants to have things BOTH ways. Objectively speaking---God is either responsible for everything, or God is responsible nothing. If my counter-points are not evidence for the NON-existance of God, then by the SAME logic and consideration, the above lookist/believer's arguments are not evidence FOR the existance of a God.
Fundanonymous finishes with: "God gives you the choice to believe in Him or not."
The robber who has a 44 magnum pressed up against your temple gives you a "choice" to give up your Rolex, or not.
It's called coersion, not a "choice".
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Ripley Community Church (now Bethel Baptist Church), Faith Baptist Church, Calvary Baptist Church and First Baptist Church of Culpeper....What a resume! every church Chuck has been associated with has had some type of breakup in the congregation...what does that tell you about "bucktoothed" Chuck?....Chuck you are evil....maybe you would have learned to be a real man of god if you followed Peter S. Ruckman instead of the fornicating Jackass Hyles....you will definetly need your "bisexual" skills when you go to prison....your butt buddy name will be BUBBA!!hahahahahahaha!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
I bet if he had followed Christ instead of either Hyles OR Ruckman, he also would have avoided the scandals attached to Ruckman....
Hawk
· 3 years ago
Don wrote: "Why have you all allowed yourselves to believe such nonsense??? "
Well then who bequeathed absolute truth to you and told you to proclaim it? Or are you the source of all truth, sef-ordained to enlighten others?
As for the fundamentalist nonsense posted here: all of this has come about from evil men following MEN. First, these guys don't even know what the Bible teaches because they don't actually read it. They just like to wave it around while somebody tells them what the Bible says. They are "hucks" waiting for the huckster.
The Bible does NOT say to give 100% loyalty to a preacher. It does NOT say to beat adolescent or pre-adolescent children. It does NOT say that if you love God and do right then everything will go your way. It does NOT say that preachers are "God's men" and nobody else is.
In fact, it says things quite to the contrary of all these fundamentalist pillars of belief.
The first thing you have to do with a Christian Fundamentalist is teach him or her to really read the Bible. Fundamentalists actually believe a mixture of pop psychology, neo-Puritan morality, "Americana history" (as opposed to American history) that harks back to a version of this country that never actually existed, and Dale Carnegie inspirational mottos.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
I think that a lot of the people who were there at the time of all this, have gone and moved away. That might be why they have not called in everyone. I think that is because they wanted to get so far away from all this mess as soon as they could. For those of you who were at Calvary Baptist at that time, look and see just how many of the people are still there or are even in church now. I don't believe it is many if any at all besides the families of the ones that married Chucks daughters. Most of them don't even go to church anywhere. Some of them have started to go back to church but at different places. I went to the school there and I can say I was never more happy to get out and when I did I never went back. I have been to a couple of churches since then and I just can't stay. I am not comfortable and I don't trust anyone. Like someone else said I think the reason all this taken so long to come out is becuase these victims are looking at their own children and saying..if something like this ever happened to my kids....Everyone should be proud of the victims that are coming forward now no matter how long it has taken. You need to realize how hard it is for them, and yes they are going through alot, and they need everyones support. If some of you were as strong as they are and as brave as they are you wouldn't still be part of Chuck Shifflett's cult. You would be doing everything you can to stop him. I just pray that he spends a long time in the only place that is good for him and that is BEHIND BARS!!! Maybe he will get a taste of his own medicine there.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Boomslang, God does exist in all those times too. Unfortunately, even if one person were to live a perfect life, he/she would still suffer some of the aftermath of another persons choices. Like a rippling pond. No one person has control of another, but at times, one persons choices affects others. So dont blame God for someone elses choices. Would you like to be a puppet on a string? On the other hand, would you really want to be the one who controls a worldful of people? As for the tornado, the sun will shine again. As for the cancer, be happy you had the chance to live. As for those sounds, and all sounds, be thankful you can hear, not everyone can. As for the mother... What an awesome thing to witness the miracle of birth first. As for the whisper of if you leave me...from a psycho, be grateful that you have a brain and know how to use it. AS for the robber who has the gun... the robber made that choice. as I said before, we cant control others choices, maybe coerse them, but not controlthem. Who is your master? Are you someones slave? Who or what controls you? We make our choices!!
boomSLANG
· 3 years ago
Yes, Anony---I fully GET the "glass is half full" analogy, add nauseum. Yet, I can do ALL those things you spoke of with, or WITHOUT, the belief in a "God". And yes, "we make our choices!!". I've chosen reason over superstition. Thank you, once again, for showing that the belief in a "God" is completely subjective and unnecessary.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Now back to the shifflett situation. I was there. I saw some of the things that went on. I guess i was one of the lucky ones. I never was messed with. There were many times that he made us go on the field and just run, and I guess it was all for his amusement. I when to his school, oh that by the way, its not a school. Some of the greatest memories of my life were at this place, but its all darkened THE SHIFFLETT SHADOW. I love where im at in life. But for all the morons that follow this idiot, and go flaunting towards what seems to be The ANTI-CHRIST, get a grip he's not JESUS. Proven guilty or not, hes making his eternal decision, and so are you morons that follow him
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
" I've chosen reason over superstition. Thank you, once again, for showing that the belief in a "God" is completely subjective and unnecessary. "
How is the belief that all order and complexity came from nothing BY ACCIDENT a choice for reason over superstition. It's an insane and lunatic belief. At least Christians can point to some evidence of their God: eyewitness accounts, changed lives, a few truly saintly people (Mother Teresa comes to mind). But we never have seen an accident create order from chaos (or from nothing). Atheists have no firm root in reason. Their atheism is, in itself, chaotic and impossible.
.:webmaster:.
· 3 years ago
A plate of half-eaten cookies and an empty glass of milk on Christmas eve is incontrovertible PROOF of the existence of Santa Claus!
And lightning bolts are arrows shot from the bow of GOD!
And anything TOO HARD for me to understand is STUPID! In fact, I KNOW that GOD is real because I CAN FEEL HIM, you LUNATIC!
Bleah...
boomSLANG
· 3 years ago
Anon's rebuttal: "How is the belief that all order and complexity came from nothing BY ACCIDENT a choice for reason over superstition."
Since neither one of us were there AT the begining, it would be a moot point to speculate, wouldn't it? Right. No one knows with absolute certainty, because no one was there---but the difference is that you posit a "God" as a default "explanation", in lieu of not having the absolute knowledge. Doing this only begs more questions than it answers.
I'm okay with saying "I don't know" who, or what, caused the first cause(if there even was one). If the first cause always existed, then maybe the universe always existed. But let's deal with what we DO know: What we DO know, is that humans come from other humans...not "dust". Female humans don't come from a "ribs". In fact, we don't see any SPECIES of any animal spontaneously generate. We don't see trees and other fawna spontaneously generate. We know that the world is round, not flat; we know that snakes and vegetation don't speak the human language; we know that the sky is not held up by a firmament; we know that rivers aren't made out of blood; we know that hammers don't swim. In other words, you get your "explanation" for the first cause from the very same source of all this other erroneous information.
Anony--the only absolute "truth", is that the universe is NOT static; it's ever-changing. Conversely, religious convictions ARE static. It's "truths" are not subject to change("God's ways are unchanging")..yet, we see that the bible is full of misinformation. By reason, this would lead me to believe that it was hardly inspired by an "Omniscient" being.....and much more likely, man.
Anon finished with: "Atheists have no firm root in reason. Their atheism is, in itself, chaotic and impossible."
Lol! Like I said above, consider the source.
Okay, let the bickering over Culpeper resume. YaaY!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Why is it that "believers" and "non-believers" has to fight to prove they are right? Why don't you each just allow the other to believe what they want.
Why do you care? What does it matter to you if someone believes in a God or not? We each have our own truths!
Live and Let Live
Shannon
· 3 years ago
While some religious folk live a quiet, passive life, others do not. As Sam Harris said in his book ‘The End of Faith,’ the moderates perpetuate the extremists. Extremists do not live and let live. They want absolute power in deciding our sex lives, our reproduction rights, our moral, ethical, and decency standards, our scientific studies, and our freedom of speech. As their guide, they want to use a book that was written, with an archaic language, by nomadic goat herders and fishermen who were living in a desert almost 3,000 years ago.
The belief in a god has done nothing but make it easier to sacrifice our only life for a fantasy afterlife. It separates people into groups and makes it easier to generally disregard, subjugate, or exterminate those other groups because they are all going to hell anyway.
God is a place marker for the unexplained and it’s bloody not good enough. To contemplate god is to contemplate the next life and not this one. We do not need to hash out god. We need to hash out what value we can place on this life so we can stop killing each other over the next.
Hawk
· 3 years ago
Shannon wrote: " they want to use a book that was written, with an archaic language, by nomadic goat herders and fishermen who were living in a desert almost 3,000 years ago."
Oh, stuff and nonsense. You're merely using modern jingoistic nonsense to discredit the accumulation contemplation and conclusins ofo civilizations that endured for centuries.
You accuse us of buyingn into nonsense, but look at the nonsense you buy into! You really think that because you own a lot of stuff, living in the present, and have lots of nifty gadgets that somehow you are smarter or wiser or more profoundly attunbed ot what existence is than people who owned very little, lived a simple life, and made their tools by hand?
You're a snob, that's all, a shallow person who assumes that whatever we come up with today has to be smarter or better than previous generations.
Well bollocks! Language itself, in its most ancient form, was far mroe complex in structure than modern language and was used veru much for discussing the invisible world, the supernatural, and the meaning for existence.
You can throw away the heritage of being a human being if you like, but it does no make you smarter or wiser. It merely makes you modern and ignorant of your past.
Shannon also wrote: "God is a place marker for the unexplained and it’s bloody not good enough. To contemplate god is to contemplate the next life and not this one. We do not need to hash out god. We need to hash out what value we can place on this life so we can stop killing each other over the next. "
Bollocks again. Don't you know that "Emmanuel" means "God with us"? One goal of religion is to make this life sensible and meaningful, in this present moment. Have you never read Victor Frankle's MAN'S SEARCH FOR MEANING. He tied belief in God, in absolutes of rightness, in mercy and compassion directly to survival in the Nazi prison camps. People who have faith have meaningful lives. That was his discovery. People who find suffering to be a purposeful thing leading them to a conclusion, purpose, or point contributed to the life in the camps in a meaningful way and conquered the evil of their oppressors.
You are merely an undereducated person blinded by the neon of this present again. Mother Teresa, Amy Carmichael Diedreich Bonhoeffer were all people who undertook poverty and/or suffering for thier faith and made life meaningful, even in desperate circumstances.
Stop reciting blind propaganda for a tv generation and go see what those goat herders discovered in the cycle of life and death and in the course of their own suffering. You'll be a less stupid person for it.
Hawk
· 3 years ago
WebMASTER: (mocking faith) And anything TOO HARD for me to understand is STUPID! In fact, I KNOW that GOD is real because I CAN FEEL HIM, you LUNATIC!
ME: (mocking atheism) And anything TOO HARD for me to understand is STUPID! In fact, I KNOW that GOD is NOT real because I CANNOT FEEL HIM, you LUNATIC!
boomSLANG
· 3 years ago
Hawk said: "You're merely using modern jingoistic nonsense to discredit the accumulation contemplation and conclusins ofo civilizations that endured for centuries."
Oh, you mean the way that the belief that the earth is flat has "endured for centuries"...? And the way that the belief that the earth is geocentric has "endured for centuries"...? And what about talking vegetation?...is that a "conclusin" that we, as thinking adults in this day and age, can still believe?(the talking carrot on Lost in Space doesn't count)
Hawk said: "You really think that because you own a lot of stuff, living in the present, and have lots of nifty gadgets that somehow you are smarter or wiser or more profoundly attunbed ot what existence is than people who owned very little, lived a simple life, and made their tools by hand?"
Oh, I see. So the suggestion is that one is "arrogant" if they assert that humankind is intellectually superior to humankind who lived 2000, or more, years ago, right? Okay, great.... so then you won't have any problem disconnecting your electricity, phone, and cable...right? You won't mind walking to work, and taking a covered wagon and oxen on vacation, correct? Perfect. And then if you or someone in your family gets sick, you'll take them where?.....to a witch doctor, right? And of course, you won't mind hunting your dinner.(I hear the moose is excellent!)
Yeah, so if one doesn't revert back to this primitive style of living, then one is "arrogant" and "worldly". Yeah, got it.
Hawk said: "You're a snob, that's all, a shallow person who assumes that whatever we come up with today has to be smarter or better than previous generations."
Now, no one's saying that ALL Christians are arrogant ignorant morons...no, only that most arrogant ignorant people are religious. There's a difference. A subtle one, but a difference.
Hawk said: "Language itself, in its most ancient form, was far mroe complex in structure than modern language and was used veru much for discussing the invisible world, the supernatural, and the meaning for existence."
Welp, seeing as how you butcher the living sh*t out of the "simpler" language of English just pushing some buttons, it'd be interesting to see what you'd come up with writing cuneiform using a chicken leg and a stone tablet. Ouch! LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!And BTW, WHAT "invisible world"..?..? If it's "invisible", you CAN'T SEE IT!
Hawk asserted: "You can throw away the heritage of being a human being if you like, but it does no make you smarter or wiser. It merely makes you modern and ignorant of your past."
Welp, I wouldn't wanna have a "modern" principle deprive me of sex whenever I want it. So can I borrow your daughter for a night?...I need a sex-slave.
Hawk: "Don't you know that 'Emmanuel' means 'God with us'? "
Don't you know that "mythology" means "a person or thing having only an imaginery existance"?
Hawk said: "One goal of religion is to make this life sensible and meaningful, in this present moment. Have you never read Victor Frankle's MAN'S SEARCH FOR MEANING."
Have you ever read ONE single book---cover to cover---that OPPOSES WHAT YOU ALREADY BELIEVE? If not, try it. If so, than can I recommend the Book of Mormon, next?
Hawk asserted: "You are merely an undereducated person blinded by the neon of this present again. Mother Teresa, Amy Carmichael Diedreich Bonhoeffer were all people who undertook poverty and/or suffering for thier faith and made life meaningful, even in desperate circumstances."
Oh, I got it......so in order to have a perspective on the "meaning of life", I need go downtown and give a portion of my hard-earned money to some dude who chooses to live in a refrigerator box who smells like a wheel of gorgonzola cheese..and why? So he can buy cigarettes, crack, and beer. Perfect. Then, I should take whatever money's left over, and donate it to my local church so that pastor Leroy Browne can put 20 inch low-profile tires on his caddy. Unless I do this, I couldn't POSSIBLY have meaning in my life. 'Got it.
Hawk finishes with: "Stop reciting blind propaganda for a tv generation and go see what those goat herders discovered in the cycle of life and death and in the course of their own suffering. You'll be a less stupid person for it."
Boy, you're a pillar of intelligence, Hawk. Won't you please stick around and enlighten us? Thanks pal.
Quotes: "WebMASTER: (mocking faith) And anything TOO HARD for me to understand is STUPID! In fact, I KNOW that GOD is real because I CAN FEEL HIM, you LUNATIC!
ME: (mocking atheism) And anything TOO HARD for me to understand is STUPID! In fact, I KNOW that GOD is NOT real because I CANNOT FEEL HIM, you LUNATIC!"
The "tit-for-tat" argument for God's existance:
1) Type tit-for-tat argument. 2) Say out-loud: "Neener-neener-neener!" 3) Think to yourself: "Boy, I showed him!" 4) Therefore, God exists.
You're welcome Shannon.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Hawk...are you the actual bird? or are you the coldest day in winter?...maybe you are a person that stares alot?...in any case, my horse's name is "hoof hearted" and October is definetly the month after September...can you explain why Chuck Shifflett likes to watch rabbits mate?...you have proven that you can type on a computer and make absolutely no sense in your writings...maybe Dr.Seuss could help you learn the meaning of life...oyvay!!
.:webmaster:.
· 3 years ago
Hawk, when you can tell me why you don't believe in Allah, Brahma, Ra, Zeus, Moroni, Horus, and every other god or goddess throughout history, some of which were worshipped and adored for thousands of years, then you will understand why I don't believe in your god.
So tell me, do you also believe in Sasquatch, UFOs, and the Loch Ness Monster? Each of those imaginary myths lacks evidence of existing, but nonetheless some people feel these things exist. I wonder if you also feel these things exist.
Regardless, you are entitled to your fantasies, and if you feel compelled to follow sexually perverted leaders, and spout invective in support of your wonderful deity, far be it from me to deny you, even though this site's only purpose is to support those who have been freed from the illogic of Christianity. Said another way, this site wasn't made so that angry, offended Christians could mentally masturbate and smear their hot, angry ejaculate all over the screen. Yuck!
If you thought that last sentence was disgusting, try attending church in Culpepper! Now that's disgusting.
Shannon
· 3 years ago
Hawk,
So, the only meaning that we have for this life is to a live in X amount of time in a completely subjective holy manner so that we can live forever in some heavenly plane to kiss the ass of the creator of all this? That’s meaningful?
Hawk said: “Oh, stuff and nonsense. You're merely using modern jingoistic nonsense to discredit the accumulation contemplation and conclusins ofo civilizations that endured for centuries.”
Dude, it endured because –why? What happened to people, for the last 1,500 years or so, who questioned the authority of the church? Hmmm?
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Aug. 22nd is just a time for legal motions and setting a trial date. I don't believe that any of the victims or witnessess will need to be present. I am looking forward to the trial starting and finally the truth coming out. Hey Chuck, are you getting nervous? You thought the victims would drop the charges by now but they're stronger than you thought. This time, you're gonna be held accountable and everyone will know the truth. I know that this won't make any difference to your followers since they worship you and not God anyway. How can you face your family, your church, and the people of Culpeper knowing how you have betrayed them? I remember that you said all your troubles would be over on April 5th when you went to court the first time. How dare the Grand Jury indict such an upstanding citizen as you. Surely they must be mistaken as well. You're the innocent one and everybody else is wrong. You said that all this started because you decided to leave and start a new church and the people at Calvary got upset. Didn't you also say in your resignation letter that the reason you were leaving was because the Doctor told you that your back wouldn't allow you to pastor a church? I've seen the letter so I know what it says. Didn't you also say in the Free Lance Star that the investigation was started after you left Calvary to cause you trouble? But isn't it true that the investigation started before you left and that you left when confronted about the investigation? I guess it's apparent, you're a liar of the worst kind. Hang in there Chad, Liz, Woody, and Robert, it won't be long now. By the way, it's still not too late for all the other victims who are afraid to come forward because of Sheriff Hart's rediculous statement about prosecuting the parents. Please come forward now, he's going to regret making that stupid statment. Everybody knows that Sheriff Hart and Chuck Shifflett have been friends for a long time.
Betty B
· 3 years ago
My name is Betty Taylor Brown. I am Betty B. I will have you know that I found out from one of the current Calvary Baptist Church members that Brenda J's brother is seeing someone and it is not his wife (who, by the way, works at walmart). what do you think he is doing while she is at work? dah. as for shifflett, i do not think he should wind up behind bars for the rest of his life. i think he should be held accountable for what he has done, but not account for it in a jail cell. i think he should be raped in the butt at least once a day. i think he should be beaten with boards once a day. bla bla bla. do unto him as he did these kids. anyhow the truth will soon come out about some of shiffletts followers. as for the anonymous person wanting to know who i am....why are you anonymous. i am not afraid to tell it like i SEE it. i have witnessed some of the flings of shiffletts and miss brendas
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Betty B said... I just cannot believe what is being said about Mrs. Jenkins. I know her family. She comes from a good family of Christian people. I have worked with her brothers through the years. My oldest sister is currently dating Mrs. Jenkins' brother and believe me that Mrs. Jenkins' family is a good, solid, nondeceiving family. I don't think they would do anything to hurt anyone. I wish you would get your facts straight before you write about Shifflett and Mrs. Jenkins!
8/05/2006 4:59 PM
Let me see now, this was a earlier statement you made and I'm still trying to figure that one out then you come up with this new line of crap. So, it's your older sister that is having the affair with the brother that has the wife that works at walmart..Right? Still haven't figured out when you worked for her brothers, I don't recall seeing you up there working. What did you do there? Hmmmmm...I do recall them saying they did hire someone to eat sawdust and poop out the wood they needed, sounds like you could have been good for that one! Who don't in culpeper that knows the brother know that his wife works at Walmart..DAh! I wonder why you stated before that they where a good christian family and now they are cheaters. my feelings on all this is that you are just full of it! You gotta keep track of what you write before to convince someone that you know what you're talking about. See, it's people like you that makes people question the truth when they don't know any difference. These charges against shifflett are gonna be the best thing to happen in Culpeper in a long time when he's convicted. What are you a pervert like Shifflett? You said you watched while he was having his affair with ms. Jenkins. Watching Shifflett doing his dirty deeds, Now that's sick! Your stories are filled with to many lies and your facts are nothing more than your Imagination running wild. I'll pray for you cause you must be just as messed up as Shifflett, believing what you say if it's said enough. You know if you would get off that CRACK for a while you might be able to keep your stories straight. Betty Brown... right ,right, and I'm the Easter Bunny. Get A LIFE!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
I am the brother that is having the affair with the lady that works at walmart...I wish she would make more money so I can give it to Chuck Shifflett for his attorney fees...I also want to fool around with Chucks wife...she's a good looking woman...yummy!!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
The Brother is the one that's suppose to be having the affair stupid, not his wife that works at walmart. You should hook up with Shifflett instead of his wife, he swings that way too!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Well, these last view posts have not made any sense at all to me. First of all, people know that Shifflett has carried on with several different women and done some terrible things. Let's not lose sight of his abuse of the children. What grown people consent to is one thing, but abusing innocent children is quite another. We need to keep Chad, Liz, Woody, and Robert in our prayers and let them know that we support them. I would be shocked if Shifflett is having an affair with Mrs. Brenda but nothing suprises me anymore. I'm sure that she could do better than that scum bag. Nonetheless, she is a consenting adult and though it is a moral crime, it is not a civil crime. We can all agree that Shifflett is not qualified to serve as a pastor or anything else in the church. The people who sit under his preaching on Sunday's don't care about his qualifications or whether he's guilty or not. They worship his every statement and will defend him to the end, even trying to justify his actions when he is found guilty. In this religious frenzy, don't lose sight of the innocent victims.
duh???
· 3 years ago
Please let us not ignore the amount of precious souls that have been saved by the direction of Rev. Charles Shifflett!! Although he may be a piece of shit, look how many souls have been saved....lol
____________________________________________
So Hawk you think that those who lived in a desert 2000 years ago were wiser than people living today, huh?
The next time you or someone you know gets sick, do not got to a doctor, because according to you, they do not know as much as those who lived over 2000 years ago.
You know what Hawk, you have to be the most ignorant poster that I have ever read on here.
The people two thousands years ago sit around at night burning camel shit, smoking opium and hash, they thought that the world was flat, that the Sun revolved over the Earth, that God and Jesus lived in the clouds above, they thought that the Heart was the center of all thought and emotion, why weren't they aware of the brain?
They also believed diseases were caused by demons. are you this stupid too Hawk? You are required to believe such nonsense too if you are to believe that the Bible is true.
I would not be calling anyone stupid on here after reading your post!!!
If you think that by owning modern conviences causes people to be stupid, I suggest you go live in a desert and smell camel shit buning for the rest of your life, maybe you'll become wiser, but I doubt it!!!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
What happened with Chuck today? Didn't he have a court appearance?
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
It's August 22nd.....Any news yet?
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Sounds like Culpeper authorities doesn't know what charges go with what liar in the case against Chuck Shifflett....and that some of the charges have been dropped or downgraded to misdemeanor charges....The new date for arraignment has been set for September 18th....Chuck's lawyer wants a list of what charges go with what lying trailer trash false accuser....I'm not too sure that Chuck has done anything wrong....you haters of Chuck are in for a rude awakening....The man will be exonerated of all the charges and will continue to smile at all you false accusing trailer trash liars....I really hope charges will be brought on Chad, Woody, Liz, Robert and everyone else who has falsely accused this man!...."VICTORY IS COMING!!!!"....I find this so amusing!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
You're all perpetual liars, all Christians are liars!!!!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
ok Chuck Shifflett haters....lets hear what you think about the proceedings yesterday....evidently the Culpeper legal system has doubts about the valitity of Chad, Liz, Robert, Woody and others complaints about drummed up charges against Chuck....where are all you absolutely convinced trailer trash hicks that Chuck would be in "real trouble" because of the false allegations of some thinned skinned sissys that was picked on by Chuck (BOO HOO!!)...how about another rally, maybe the same 6 people will show up for that one too!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
yeah.....I'm a shifflett hater and proud of it! Anyone with a half normal brain would be, if they had any sence about them. Evidently there is more than one here on this Blog cause you think it's ok for someone to take advantage of a child. I'm sure that one day, if not thru the court system Shifflett will be BOO HOOING TOO when he's dodging them flames of his everlasting burn in HELL for all the sins he's committed!
Tina
· 3 years ago
So your a Chuch Shifflett lover....you stand behind him so much how come you can't put your name on here and show us who you are. Obviously you think we are all trailer trash or hicks as you call us well let me just tell you that you don't know nothing about what any of these victims are going through. Were you there? Did you see any thing go on? did you feel the pain that they had to endure? Apperently not, so whether any of these allegations did or didn't happen, which I think they did being that I know these victims, I think you should keep your name calling comments to your self unless you are brave enough to let us know who you are. Maybe you have something to hide... One way or the other Chuck Shifflett will pay either in court by a judge or at judgement day. He should be worried about both. If you support him and think that he is such a wonderful person and you have children of your own, you better be watching them. I don't have any problems putting my name down on here and letting people know what I think...how about you.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Charles Shifflett is a sorry peice of crap. I wouldn't be so sure that he would be let off. I don't think that Chad, Liz, Woody, or Robert would make up such stories. What reason do you have to doubt them. Are you just tangled up in Chuck web? If you were smart you would get the hech out of there. I did as soon as I got the chance 12 years ago I would think that you people that are still following him would have seen the real him by now, but since you havent and are still blinded by him I would watch your kids don't let him get to close. Maybe he just has something on you. You people that still follow him are all just crazy and apparently don't care about your families enough to keep them safe from this monster. God help you.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
I agree with Tina. If you are a true supporter of Chuck Shifflett’s you should identify yourself and proclaim your support for him. (His family sure hasn't!)
Is it that you really don't belive Chuck is innocent? Is that why you're afraid to identify yourself as his supporter.
I don't blame you really for remaining annonymous.....why would want people to know that you support a pervert?
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
I'm suppose to believe that Chuck is so horrible around 4 kids that didn't like him and ones that waited 15+ years to say anything and nothing has been proven other than a few kids got their feelings hurt because they were called names? remember, sticks and stones will break my bones but names will never hurt me!!...there are thousands of kids that have been around Chuck for the last 35+ years and I'm suppose to believe those 4 over the thousands of kids because you guys write on here your dislike for Chuck?...yeah right, a man is innocent until proven guilty and you people have already condemned him...even the courts don't know which charges go with what accuser and i'm suppose to believe you Chuck haters??...we'll see what happens to Chuck. It's looking in his favor daily!!! and by the way, I'm Charlie Brown!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Charlie Brown....you're a clown!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
As I read all the messages left by the people of Culpeper, VA and I am not surprised that Chuck found this area to be a perfect place to start his church. These simple minded country folks are just what he needed to have as his followers. They are "simple" in that they will believe what ever their "Preacher" tells them. They were probably taught from the time they were small children in Sunday School to do what your Preacher tells you to do. Now as adults they believe with their whole heart and soul that Chuck is innocent; because that's what "Preacher" has told to believe. (Just like Jim Jones' followers who believed everything he said and followed him into death.) Chuck has these poor souls brainwashed. They Obviously don't read to educate themselves to form their own opinion. As good Christians they blindly trust and believe their Preacher.
I've seen it all my life at so many different churches. It is just so sad to see this level of ignorance in such good loving "god fearing'" people. Think of all the good they could really do for their community of Culpeper if they focused their attention to a different cause.
Poor things!!!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
How can you people that write in here about all the "hate" that you have? Are any of you writers christians? Doesn't the Bible tell us to love our neighbor and to forgive those that cause transgressions in our lives? I'm not taking sides in the Culpeper vs. Chuch Shifflett fiasco but you people are very angry. Trust god to make the right decision in this case. Hate and anger will only put you in the same category and make you just as ugly as the accused. God can handle this!! PRAY!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
The bible also says a EYE for A Eye and a TOOTH for a Tooth....
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
I heard that Tom Reese and Mrs. Jenkins was with Shifflett yesterday for his court appearance. They deserve what they get!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
I heard that Tom Reese and Mrs. Jenkins was with Shifflett yesterday for his court appearance. They deserve what they get!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
I heard that Tom Reese and Mrs. Jenkins was with Shifflett yesterday for his court appearance. They deserve what they get!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
The conditions are the same for Shifflett as they where before ....Cullen ordered Shifflett to abide by the conditions of his current bond, which include refraining from alcohol, drugs and possessing firearms.
He is also forbidden to have direct or indirect contact or communication with any witnesses who will testify in the case, the victims or their family members.
And he must not have contact with anyone under 18 unless another adult is present. THE VICTIM OR THEIR FAMILY..Bet Mary Leake was at church tonight hanging on shifflett's every word...CULPEPER people you need to get a picture of Shifflettt and Mary Leake and hand it to the commonwealth attorney, and Shifflett will be jailed till his trial for violations of a court order.If you want this evil man off the streets and away from young children just turn him in. DO IT FOR THE CHILDREN!!!!!
boomSLANG
· 3 years ago
Concerned anonymous said: "As good Christians they blindly trust and believe their Preacher."
How clever. Christians accusing other Christians of "blindly" trusting and believing someone they CAN see.... yet, chances are the accuser would take issue if it were pointed out that they do the exact same for something they CAN'T see.
HappyInJesus
· 3 years ago
Unless I read a different article in the Culpeper Star Exponent, I don't see where any charges are being dropped or that Shifflett is getting off. This latest manuver is just another desparate act by a guilty man with good lawyers. Of course they're going to delay the trial as long as they can. If you were guilty of what he's guilty of, wouldn't you? If he was innocent, he would want to go to trial and get the truth out in the open. The fact is, he knows he's guilty and soon everybody else will also.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
I was just wondering - when all you people were cutting wood for Chuck, did anyone say - "how much wood could a woodCHUCK CHUCK if a woodCHUCK could CHUCK wood??" bwahhahaha!!!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
OK "Charlie Brown" you have said what you wanted to say and now I am going to say what I want. What makes you think that these 4 people are making all this up? Did you go to school with them. Were you there during this time? If you were just say who you are. Are you afraid to let us know who you are, you must be since you put your name as something as stupid as "Charlie Brown". Which also has me believing that you are still caught in Chuck's web. I know that there are other victims out there. Maybe they are just afraid to come forward becuase of the comment made about "the parents of the victims" or maybe they are ashamed or maybe they just don't want there family involved. Did you ever stop to think of that. Nope I am sure that you didn't, you are just so blind sided by this man that you would believe anything he says. Let me ask this.. were you ever raped, or molested, or beaten. If you were you might know how the people felt. I know becuase I have been there. You know if it were your kids saying this you just might feel different. Or maybe you were just one of the people that were told and decided not to believe them becuase Chuck Shifflett was your "preacher" and you were taught that the "preacher" is always right. Shame on you. I pray that your children, grandchildren, neices, or nephews are not being harmed by this man and your are to stupid to believe it or see it. It should only take one person to make you question Chuck Shifflett. How come his family isn't defending him? Where are they? How come Tom Reese and Brenda Jenkins were with him and not his family...I guess he needed Tom Reese to be there in case he needed more money. I feel sorry for you that you still believe in this man. As far as I can tell there is no change in the charges against Chuck and I don't know what you mean by things are going in his favor, but I don't think so. When it all comes to an end you just might eat your words. Then if you are supporting him because you have something to hide then you just might be going down too. Good Luck with that...NOT. Shame on you for not believing these victims. May God help you and all you other Chuck Shifflett supporters.
boomSLANG
· 3 years ago
"May God help you and all you other Chuck Shifflett supporters."
Or if that doesn't help, try chanting this on a full moon:
Hoof and horn Hoof and horn All that dies shall be reborn! Corn and grain Corn and grain Don't let Schifflett preach again!
anonymous1
· 3 years ago
well half of the people that has left a message on here has no clue what has happened in the past or what will happen in the future! but one thing i do have to say is that most of the members of "first baptist church"(of culpeper) truly have no idea about half of the things that have happened to the "kids" at calvary over the last 20 years... they have never had thier children in calvary academy and decide to show up to church only on sunday mornings. tis message is coming for a person who went to calvary academy for 13 years i graduated from there and that school is the best school in america you will never find more teachers that love their students more than them and now that mr. shifflett is gone it will continue to be a grat school. so i dont think that the future students should have to suffer from the past especially mr. shiffletts reputation. calvary is now a great church with real leaders that love God and want to serve him and not be served.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Anonymous 1 (8/24/2006 5:33 PM) - You ARE joking right??? If your grammar, spelling and punctuation are examples of the type of education being taught at Calvary Academy then all students could be considered functionally illiterate. (That means unschooled, not taught)
"a grat school" - great
"thier children" - their
Did they teach you about Proper Nouns, capitalization, commas??? Any of those sound familiar? Can you count, do math, balance a check book? Read a legal contract or loan document?
Come on...Seriously, it's a joke right?
.:webmaster:.
· 3 years ago
I hope to no-god that Anonymous1's post was a joke.
If it was not a joke, then what a sad commentary that poster's demonstrated writing ability is on the academic merits of that school.
Wowee.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
ANONYMOUS (8/24/2006 2:03 PM) said: "How come his family isn't defending him? Where are they? How come Tom Reese and Brenda Jenkins were with him and not his family"
Is this true? Janest wasn't with him? What about his daughters & their husbands?? Has any of his family publicly supported him?
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
anonymous1..."tis message is coming for a person"...wow, you really know how to write a sentence...are you sure you didn't skip writing day in that school?...you must've been out cutting wood for Chuck during that particular class huh?...amazing!!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
WOW anonymous1, no periods, no punctuations, I think your parents should have sent you to a public school and save their tuition or was the school payed by your labor? I really hope you work better than you write!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Unlike most of you I do not sit in front of the computer to see what is going to happen next. To be honest I don’t really care, its all in the past. I have a JOB and a LIFE you guys should try it. I was on my way to work when I posted that last comment and punctuality is rather important to me so I am not going to try to argue with you all and have that jeopardize my career. So you guys can stay on this stupid little web site and gossip all you want, but do remember God is our judge. -Anonymous1
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
"jeopardize your career"....please don't tell me you are a proof reader!!....you were typing on your laptop on the way to work?....try putting on make-up on your ride in....STOP WRITING PLEASE!
shelly
· 3 years ago
Come to think of it....I agree with the comment on 8/23. Someone needs to just take a picture of Mary Leake around Shifflett and send it to the courts. If Mary is the way she was when I was growing up she can't be to far from Shiffletts A**. I would love to see him behind bars til' whatever happens - happens!!!! I also think that "Charlie Brown" is a complete moron and should stop hiding behind a cartoon character and ...well I guess the cartoon does fit the circus tent and all the crap coming from the new acult and his followers...lol
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Why is it so important to know the identity of "charlie brown"? I come on here to give my comments just like everyone else....I know all the accusers personally and some of them have expressed to me that they are only in this for "monetary compensation" by the way of civil action after the criminal proceedings are concluded and not only compensation from Chuck but also from Calvary Baptist as well....so, again I will say I hope the courts will look into the accusations of the accusers....GREED seems to be the driving force here! Things are not as cut and dry as some of you Shifflett haters might wanna think....what is the definition of "perjury" in the redneck dictionary? cause there are alot of rednecks in Culpeper!
HappyInJesus
· 3 years ago
You're a liar and you know it. I know the victims as well and justice is the issue here and not greed. I'm pretty close to the case and not one time has anybody said anything about money. I know that you're trying to cast doubt on the truth of the victims but it's not going to work. There is too much evidence concerning Shifflett. I understand why you won't give your name, it's simply because you're a Shifflettnite and you can't stand the thought of your idol coming down.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
I think greed is an issue....for Chuck. He's afraid that he'll be held accountable for his actions and made to "pay" for his sins! He should! It's called retribution. Why shouldn't the victims be compensated for the hell he put them through and the negative impact he had on their emotional & spiritual development as children under his care? There is no amount of money that can wipe away the pain and loss of childhood that they suffered. But, making Chuck financially compendate his vitims will make Chuck suffer a great loss.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
anonymous of 8/26 Did you go to Calvary Baptist Academy? you must've been out cutting wood with anonymous1 when spelling class was in session! AMAZING!
"compendate his vitims"
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Webmaster: Please install a spellcheck program on your website!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Well as much as I can't wait to see Shifflett get his, I will have to agree that some of the victims are seeing this as away to better them selves more than they are worried about seeing shifflett being put away. I'm not saying all of the victims, just some. If they bring this against Calvary Baptist too then it will prove that they are out for the money.I'm hoping that it is all about Shifflett and what he done to them. But, I'm afraid that is not the case. Looks to me like if Mary L. is going to church every week and being around Shifflett looks like to me that some of the victims would be turning this in to the judge. I mean if she thinks more of Shifflett than her own children then you got to do what you got to do.I would get proof that they are having contact and put him behind bars till trial where he should have already been! I can't understand them having anything to do with her anyway. I have seen them togather and to me if my mother choose shifflett over me after he abused me then she could have him! I just don't get it. Has anyone else thought about this?
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Thank You very much anonymous of 8/26 10:05 am....seems I'm not the only one that knows the accusers and their "scheme" to get monetary compensation....and happyinjesus, I am not a liar!!....and shelly, I am not a moron!!....I'm just a person who knows much more than all of you "haters" know about the case....maybe, just maybe I am involved with this case and have mega more information than all of you people have....but mark my word, it's far from cut and dry!!...."GOOD OLE Charlie Brown" was always the underdog but always managed to pull through!
HappyInJesus
· 3 years ago
You couldn't be any more envolved in the case than I am or have any more access to the information than I do so my statement still stands. You're a lair! I know the people who read these comments have more sense than to believe that the comments on this website will sway the case one way or the other. The case will be decided based on the evidence and not on public opinion. This site is a place to vent our frustrations and nothing more. I'm glad that this site has been provided and so I say thank you to the webmaster. There will be lots of additional information coming out at the trial and none of it will be in Shifflett's favor. These 7 felony charges are just the beginning as you will soon see. I hope every victim does get restitution from Shifflett, but how do you get compensated for years of fear and suffering. There's not enough money in the world to compensate his victims. Chad, Liz, Woody, and Robert, if you read these comments, just remember that we believe you and we know the truth. Don't be discouraged by the comments of a Shifflett worshiper. You'll get to look Shifflett in the eye and hold him accountable for what he's done to you. I just wish that all the others would find the courage to come forward and tell their stories.
Donna W
· 3 years ago
True, Shiff is not supposed to be around or in contact with victims' families. Mary L believes in her pastor and that is why she is "around or in contact with" Shiff. Mary L is a kind, good-hearted person, has a great sense of humor. Mary L believes in her pastor and believes in her son and daughter. Mary L is torn between her family (children) and her Christian family. It must be truely hard for Mary to make a decision to give up one for the other. Thus far she has not give up neither family. She still visits with her children and grandchildren. She continues contact with her church family as well. As for the Jenkins woman, I only believe what I have seen. As for Shiff, he should suffer agony as the victims have. No child at no age should be treated the way the shiff victims have been treated. My heart breaks for Chad, Woody, Liz, and the others. I feel ashamed of the people who question why these "kids" are just now coming forward. I was raped/molested when I was 12, that was 31 years ago. I came forward 2 years ago and no one, absolutely no one gave me support nor understanding. Chad, Woody, Liz, and the other victims: I support you 100%
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Ok HappyinJesus...you don't know anything about me nor the role I play in the Culpeper vs Shifflett case...so, I'll just leave it like that!...but, to let you know, I didn't even know who Charles Shifflett was until earlier this year...I didn't know the man personally and I certainly do not worship him...so if you think we are "chums" you are sadly mistaken...my only interest is in the LEGAL aspect of the case...you can say all you would like about the man...according to the law, the man has rights and is innocent until proven guilty...you Shifflett bashers are in for a rude awakening when this thing does go to court...the parents are responsible too!...so, this will be my last correspondence...gotta go play football with Lucy! :)
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Donna, you don't know mary L. as good as you think. Have you been to her home? "My Hog pin is cleaner". Do you know that her and Shifflett are alot closer than you could dream of. He diden keep giving her cars for church duty. Did you also know that she cusses like a sailor when she's not at her precious church? I have known her way longer than I care too, and she was never a mother to her children! If she is the example for your version of a good christian women GOD HELP US ALL! You say she's torn between shifflett and her children, I think everone knows who she has chosen. Would like to ask you one question? What have you been smoking?????
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
As for Mary L. everyone outside of the Cult knows what and who she is and it ain't good. I bet she knows shifflett as well as his wife does. I mean get real anyone that picks Shifflett over her own children is nothing more than a fool. I bet if you weren't part of the cult you would realize all this. I believe she is just as guilty as Shifflett cause she covered it all up, even after she was told that he abused her very own children. She still keeps going to Church even though she knows that she could put the man she worships in jail for violation of court orders,she just can't stay away from her man that long. To bad she diden worship her husband the way she does shifflett.The way these followers are under his spell it won't surprise me if they all don't give up everything they own to keep their "preacher" out of jail for molesting,beating,abusing young children. What must our precious Lord think of all of you!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
I don't know about you all, but it wouldn't be very hard for me to make the decision between my "preacher" or my children. DUH!!! Your children should ALWAYS come first. I just don't understand how it could be such a hard decision for anyone, but then again her "preacher" has always come first to her. That is a shame. Mary Leake isn't a very good Christian woman I know that for sure. I have known her for many years and have seen to much. If I was there to take the picture I sure would. Someone needs to do something. Your family should always come first no matter what the circumstances are.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Wow, if you think Mary L. is a good Christian… You’re crazy!!! She is almost as bad as Shifflett. She absolutely hated me in high school because I stood up for my self and didn’t let her or Shifflett “push” me around. She couldn’t stand the fact that I had a backbone unlike a lot of the other kids. I was not brainwashed for Shifflett and both Leake and Shifflett knew it and that drove them crazy. She always thought I was trash and she made sure I knew it. Both she and Shifflett should be kept away from children. So I think that Mary L’s family would benefit from her choosing Shifflett over them.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
I agree with you. Not sure who you are but, I know they did the same thing with me. Mary L and Chuck both made sure that they reminded me constantly how bad I was and how much of a screw up I was going to be but I never let that stop me from anything. They might have brain washed a lot of people including some of my family, but I saw right through it. Mary L is just as bad as he is. Her affair with him is more important than her family and yes maybe it is better for her family if she chose to stay with Chuck.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
There are some interesting posts on this website concerning Charles Shifflett and his "lady" friends and his other criminal activities. I wonder if any of his followers have read the scriptures concerning the qualifications of a Pastor? What is the hold that he has on you people? I know that it's not his ability to preach because I sit under him for several years and he hasn't really preached in the last ten years. He's copied Jack Hyles or Jack Schaap but he hasn't had anything from the Lord in years. Thank God that I haven't had to listen to him for the last 10 months! I'm amused when I hear the term "innocent until proven guilty". That's just a legal term and means nothing as to the reality of his guilt. I've already heard the victims speak and seen a tremendous amount of proof that Chuck is as quilty as they come. Why don't they just give Chuck a polygraph test and see whether or not he's telling the truth? The greatest proof of his guilt is his response to the victims and his delay tactics in proceeding to trial. If I were accused and innocent, I would want a trial as soon as possible so I could expose the lies but it sure looks like Shifflett doesn't want that to happen. I believe it's because he knows that there is a huge amount of proof and witnesses against him and he's finally going to answer for his crimes. I say it's about time!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Can anyone talk with regard to his wife and family? Has Janet ever publicly spoken of her support for him? What about his children and their spouses? Any words from them?
For the life of me I don't understand how they can keep quiet. If my husband or father were accused of something I knew to be false I'd be on radio and TV professing my support.
Have they made ANY public comments?
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Rachel wrote a letter to the Culpeper Star Exponent in the early months professing her faith in her father. Other than that, I haven't heard or seen anything else from his family. I'm sure that they're going to support him even when he's proven guilty. I wouldn't expect anything less from his children. They will love him even though he is an abuser. I would do the same if it was my father.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Mary L. Was at church again wednesday night, so I hear. If you wanta speed up the trial get evidence that Mary L. is still going to watch her beloved "Preacher" and put shifflett in jail where he belongs and this will stop the delays on his lawyers part. As long as he is out he is getting more money for his case. But most of all it would be nice just to see that evil smile took off his face. Please someone get a picture and you shall be alot of folks hero! I pray that someone will have the guts to put this monster away where he belongs.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
I just got through listening to The Lambs of Culpeper on www.jeriwho.com. Did all you Shifflett followers know that he raped a teenage boy and sexually abused a teenage girl? Did you know that he endangered the life of other young people by his "tree game"? You should hear how he tormented Chad, Liz, Woody and Robert. Wake up Culpeper! I hear he still pastors a church and is operating a Christian School. Where is the Welfare department and the local law enforcement? If he's done it once, he's still doing it. I can't believe that people would even talk to this animal much less sit in a church pastored by him. You people must be insane!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
He's got the town of Culpeper officials in his back pocket. He probably has something on them! As far as the social service goes I don't know what they are doing.You bet if it was one of us that spanked our child we would be without our child and behind bars and he's allowed to still be around children after he sexually and physically abused these victims and I'm sure alot more we don't know about and he can teach and preach his evilness. It's one messed up world sometimes, I guess it's the devil working overtime. Two of the victims mother still goes to Shifflett's church even though he has been prohibited by the judge to have any contact with the victims or their families. it's just crazy that the people of Culpeper are sitting by and letting this continue, when all they have to do is get a picture of Shifflett and the victims mother togather.This so called christian woman choose Shifflett over her own children. The sad part is that no one cares about these victims and what Shifflett did to them. Lot's of people here claim they are so close to the case and share in their thoughts for the victims but they are doing nothing to help them put shifflett behind bars and they live right their in Culpeper. Shame on you Culpeper residents!
HappyInJesus
· 3 years ago
We don't have to take a picture, the police could go any Sunday morning, Sunday night, or Wednesday night and catch her with him at his circus tent. His restrictions are a joke! The proof is in the fact that he's still around children and still operating a school.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
I would like to know what "PROOF" anyone has on the allegations. Sure, you can get a bunch of people together to drum up any charges but after all the reading that I have done on here, not once have I read of anyone proving the charges. Are there any pictures? any videos? any statement of confessions? anything? I don't really care about the outcome, just would like to see what the proof is if any!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
What proof do you think there's going to be on this website? The proof will be presented in the courtroom where it matters. The only proof has to be presented to the jury who will make the final judgement, and believe me, there's plenty of it. Just wait until the trial date and you'll see plenty of evidence concerning Shifflett's guilt.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
I have just listened to the Lambs of Culpeper series. I am appalled at what I have heard. My heart aches for the pain I hear in the voices of these children. And, yes, they still sound like children. Not like adults at all. I knew Woody Leake. To my knowledge, I never heard him referred to as "Drip". Does this mean it didn't happen? I saw Woody as "Preachers" shadow. He was always running up to him grinning. Preacher would grab his head in a playful head lock and "rough him up" rubbing his knuckles on his hair. Woody seemed to enjoy and relish the attention, even to seek it out. Does this mean he was never abused in any way? I saw Woody's mom daily. She seemed happy to be the devoted "errand" girl of the church. I saw her daily, yet I do not recall that she was married. Does this mean she was not? I also have the opinion that she is not a very feminine woman. She was the very opposite of the pastor’s wife.I saw her spend A LOT of time at the church and school, but I also saw that the majority of this time was spent with Miss Putnam and or the other women. I saw Archie Seale as part of the inner circle of men. On the surface, I saw harmony and trust in this inner circle. I believe that if I knew of fundamental wrong doing and I was faced with a “My way or the highway” attitude, I would be leaving. He whole heartedly showed his support of Preacher- maed it known well. It he knew of any abuse, whether of trust, children or power, he should have made it public. I have heard him preach many times. Preacher was not the only pastor we sat under and trusted. If he let this go on because he did not want to lose his position within the church, he was being selfish. God loves the people who were on his route and in his Sunday school class much more than Archie Seale ever could. He would have provided for them. Every man and leader in that church had a responsibility to investigate any concerns or accusations, not to let the multitude of children that come through those doors to be a potential victim of mental or physical abuse. IF any abuse happened, there will be others who will held accountable, not just Pastor Shifflett. When I was 16-18, I was the closest with the families in that inner circle. There were a few “smarmy” men who needed to be convinced to look at your eyes and not your anatomy or that you really didn’t want to hug them every time you saw them (I would rate Tom Reese as No. 2 out of the 3 that were to be avoided) The girls of the church, including his daughters and niece discussed these men. Does this mean that they went on to abuse the young girls of the church? “Actually- I just heard a rumor--?? I remember Chad, but only briefly. I know that he came and was “different” than the regular church guys because his family dressed a little more trendy and worldly than the others. If he was not rebellious, he gave the appearance that he was. Brother Josh Shifflett’s children were the same way. I liked them both immensely, they seemed to be good kids- but they gave the appearance of pushing the edge of the rules. I know that appearances are not always what they seem. It appears to Archie Seale (by his comments following the Lambs series) that he thinks Jeri is doing this for the victims. It appears to me that her agenda is to further her crusade against the teachings of Dr. Jack Hyles. It also appears to me that she has taken brief excerpts of sermons and comments from interviews, highlighted them, played them where they fit her outline of how the story should flow. I realize that there is much more to the story and it will all be told to a jury. I cannot decide guilt or innocence based on the accounting of these children. If they are reporting only facts, they would be telling it with pain and conviction. If they are telling lies, again, they would be telling it with pain and conviction. Jeri has done them an injustice by sacrificing these “Lambs of Culpeper” on the altar of her personal vendetta. This should have been their story presented in a way that shed light on their reported abuse, not her further victimizing them by using their reported misfortune to further her own cause. I am sure if I scoured Jeri’s sites and recordings and took brief portions, out of context, I could list her on my own Hall of Shame. I attended Calvary Baptist Academy for a brief period of time. I also attended Hyles-Anderson College. I have heard both Shifflett and Jack Hyles. I have agreed with them, disagreed with them, learned from their sermons and at times- set through them watching the clock. The representation Jeri has given of their teachings is incorrect and biased, as is her position that Hyles-Anderson is a breeding ground for pedophiles and spouse abusers. I would very much like to see a study of the police reports and convictions of all graduates of Virginia Tech or Harvard University. In your listing of Hyles graduates that have perpetrated these crimes, have you run the numbers to get a percentage of total graduates or enrollees that this number represents? If Shifflett committed these crimes, I want him to pay. I want him to never be allowed to belittle, demean or abuse another child or adult. BUT—what if he did not? He supported me, his girls were my best friends, and his wife was my role model. I never saw any of these things--- no one ever warned me away. If so many people knew he was so vile, why was nothing ever done? Also, everyone keeps stating (Jeri included) that they have talked to so many people who went to the school and church- I was there from 1980 until I stopped going in 1991 or 92- no one has asked me the 1st question.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Anonymous 9/03/2006 7:53 AM said:
"his family dressed a little more trendy and worldly than the others. If he was not rebellious, he gave the appearance that he was."
This is the same method of exclusion Chuck used to make me an example of a "bad Christian" when he was at Ripley Community Church. I actually tried to have a discussion with him about clothing having nothing to do with faith. I felt it was easier to witness to other teenagers because I didn’t dress so differently than they did. He felt I was arguing with him, that I was disrespecting him, because I had a different opinion. He just couldn’t handle someone standing up to him. Especially a teenage girl who wore her skirts above her knees or blue jeans with patches. It was the early 1970’s that’s what EVERY teenager was wearing at the time.
"There were a few “smarmy” men who needed to be convinced to look at your eyes and not your anatomy or that you really didn’t want to hug them every time you saw them."
This too was a trait that Chuck had during his time at Ripley Community. All of the “good” girls were too embarrassed to say anything about how uncomfortable he made them feel. (He’s a man of God…..It must be something they did to draw his attention to their breasts.) And the “bad” girls found it to be another example of the pervert he was. These girls didn’t say anything because they felt they would not be believed or, like me, they would be labeled a liar, a trouble maker. We were already made to beel as if we were an embarrassment to our families because we voiced our own opinions and because we wore clothes of the fashion trend of the time.
Some people never change....some people get worse. Looks like Chuck got worse.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
In 4-5 yrs of teen service at Calvary Baptist, Charles Shifflett may have touched my foream or placed his hand on my shoulder while speaking to me- never once did he make me feel uncomfortable with his touching or his eyes. I did not wear pants for several years, yet I managed to dress according to the standards set by the church and the shcool and still look fashionable- these days "everyone" is wearing their bra straps showing from beneath lingerie looking tops, bare midrifs, "boy shorts" that show the curve of their botoms and words written across their bottoms that say "juicy" and other such things- that doesn't mean I want my teen doing the same.
boomSLANG
· 3 years ago
Send pictures and I'll let you know if God approves of such provocative attire. I have a direct line of communication with Him, although, I gotta tell ya.... I can't see it being anymore provocative than that skimpy grape-leave get-up that Eve had covering her "botom".
= )...
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
God does not judge us by what we wear, so why should anyone else. Just because I wear pants or "boy shorts" doesn't mean that I am a bad person or that I am going to hell. Chuck Shifflett always liked to look at the girls..just some never realized. He would look so hard that he would let you know if he saw your underwear line that is why we had to start wearing full skirts. How stupid. He looked no matter what you were wearing. And there were manytimes that he would hug me and let me just tell you it was more than an arm rub...he would make sure that he hugged tight and he would press up against me and many other girls. I know that it was very uncomfortable to me. He just made sure that he did it to the ones who's parents were so caught up with him he knew that even if we did tell it wouldn't matter because our parents wouldn't believe us. He really liked finding some reason to pull you in his office in the new builing and tell you what you were doing wrong and the whole time played "pocket pool" with himself. I had that happen to me on more than one occasion. He used to preach on never being alone in a room with another woman or teenage girl, but yet he was always alone when he would take me to his office. He was always alone with a few other teenage girls too and with other women too. Charles Shifflett never practiced what he preached because he knew that he could get away with it. My parents weren't smart enough to pull us out...they lost 2 of there children before they ever graduated, and they still stayed there a couple more years before they realized that something was wrong. How many other people are gonna have to loose there children by them leaving home before they realize what they are doing to their kids. What is wrong with you people. I just cannot believe that anyone would still be sitting there listening to Chuck Shifflett preach. How much longer is it going to take for you to realize that you are hurting your children? Don't your kids and your family mean anything to you? I pray that Chuck Shifflett is not hurting anyone else while he is awaiting his trial. I hope that he pays for what he has done to these victims and everyone else that he has hurt.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Shifflett likes all the girls to wear skirts so he can get his daily thrills. I have seen him do everything he can to look up young girls skirts.He preaches that it is a sin for a women to dress as a man. Well, who's to say that a skirt is the way a women dresses. after all Jesus wore a dress like robe. Maybe the ladies that wear pants are on the right track. At least they don't give Shifflett any thrills! I don't think that his followers will get into heaven any quicker than me cause they wear skirts. After all look who they are following and support a child abuser and straight out old pervert.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Shifflett’s arraignment now moves to Sept. 18 at 4 p.m., when a trial date would be set.
Cullen ordered Shifflett to abide by the conditions of his current bond, which include refraining from alcohol, drugs and possessing firearms.
He is also forbidden to have direct or indirect contact or communication with any witnesses who will testify in the case, the victims or their family members.
And he must not have contact with anyone under 18 unless another adult is present.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
September 18th is quickly approaching and we'll see what legal side steps Shifflett's lawyers will attempt this time. I am encouraged however, since the victims (the ones that have come forward so far) are still standing strong. I am beginning to see desparation in Shifflett's actions because I believe he is finally realizing that he's going to be held accountable and that the victims are not going to drop the charges. His delay tactics are running out and soon everyone will hear in open court the real facts in the case. Shifflett is a cruel and sadistic person that deserves maximum prison time. I for one will be in the court room when the trial starts to support the victims and look Shifflett in the eye. I hope they send him to prison and hang a sign around his neck that says "Child Molestor". Maybe then he'll understand a little bit of the hell that he's put others through.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
What I wanta see is that smug grin he has wiped of his devilish face!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
"SHIFFLETT HAS DONE NOTHING WRONG! HE WILL BE EXONERATED! SMILE ON OLE KING OF CULPEPER! THE TRAILER TRASH ACCUSERS WILL BE PUNISHED FOR THEIR LIES! LONG LIVE CHUCK SHIFFLETT!"
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
I want to refer this statement to Anonymous who said they'd been at Calvary since 1980. Shifflett didn't come until 1984 so you need to get your facts straight. I know who you are E.R., so you're right, he did help you alot by using church money to pay your college bill. What else did you do for him?
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Just 5 more days till the people of Culpeper see what their "Precious Preacher Shifflett" has been up to. I for one already know, but will be glad when the people of Culpeper are informed of all his ungodly acts! May God forgive those who have supported Shifflett while most of his victims have been suffering for the lack of support from their own families and the public in general. May his followers find the strenght to ask God for forgiveness for turning their backs on those that needed them most. But mostly for their lack of christian love for the victims, and most of all the word of God. Refusing to believe the truth does not mean innocense. I hope all his followers will be able to come to terms with what he has done before it is to late!!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
To anonymous...I think the element of God has left the religious scene wouldn't you? At one time you supported this man and licked his ass, so now you'll just go find another preacher that will kiss your ass and tell you how wonderful you are and what a good christian you are and you'll give the new preacher some more money out of religious guilt.
Why don't you stay off this website, you religious idiot jackass!!!
I will stay like you and remain anonymous.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Anonymous wrote: “Why don't you stay off this website, you religious idiot jackass!!!”
I would like to express my appreciation to the “Ex-Christian” website for allowing those with different opinions (Christians) who have a personal interest in this case a forum to vent and discuss their feelings and personal experiences anonymously. Your tolerance for others is an example that many self-proclaimed Christians (as well as the writer above) might well learn from.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
To Charles Shifflett: "What you gonna do, what you gonna do when they come for you bad boy, bad boy". You better memorize that song, you're going to be hearing it soon enough! Just 4 more days and finally a trial date will be set (I hope) and we can finally get this mess started and hopefully over with before Christmas. Then again, I hear that you're going to have some more problems to deal with after you face these 7 abuse charges. Don't worry, you can pull your puppet's string from a jail cell.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
CHUCK WILL BE EXONERATED ON ALL THE FALSE CHARGES BY MERE TRAILER TRASH....YOU HATERS OF CHUCK WILL BE IN FOR A BIG SURPRISE....THERE IS ALREADY TALK OF CHARGING THE FALSE ACCUSERS AND THE PARENTS (AND I HOPE THAT WILL INCLUDE JAIL TIME!!)....CHUCK WILL BE VICTORIOUS!!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
The only one that's talking about charging the victims is you and you don't know what you're talking about. You're so blind to what Shifflett is that you can't be objective. Just wait until the trial and we'll see what happens. I understand why you don't identify yourself because you're going to look like a fool when the proof comes out. I've heard the testimony and seen a lot of the evidence already so keep on dreaming for a couple of more days if it makes you feel better. You and Chuck deserve each other.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
"CHUCK WILL BE EXONERATED ON ALL THE FALSE CHARGES BY MERE TRAILER TRASH....YOU HATERS OF CHUCK WILL BE IN FOR A BIG SURPRISE....THERE IS ALREADY TALK OF CHARGING THE FALSE ACCUSERS AND THE PARENTS (AND I HOPE THAT WILL INCLUDE JAIL TIME!!)....CHUCK WILL BE VICTORIOUS!! "
I think Chuck has learned how to use the internet!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
I'm telling you people of Culpeper if you turn him in for being with the victims family things will speed up if he has to sat in jail. I recently saw their new church pamplet. It has shifflett and his la de da wife at the top and then a picture of a group of young innocent children. Made me ill just to see it. It's like they are rubbing it in the victims face that he can do what he wants and people still will trust him with their innocent children. Shifflett and his inabling wife where all smiles, sitting there all proud that he is a child abuser. Would have been nice if he was already in jail awaiting trial. I don't look for anything to happen to him before christmas if he's not in jail.Culpeper residents you need to stand up and take charge or you will have regrets.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
how many times have I read that "if the people of culpeper would turn him in for being around the accusers family" you must be the dumbest bunch of hicks I have ever read about. why don't the people that write this stuff just shut the fuck up and turn his ass in? you people in culpeper must really have nothing to do, no wonder why that preacher controls you bunch of dumbasses!!
shelly
· 3 years ago
I agree with the last person....someone take the proof that Shifflett is breaking the rules of the courts and put his Butt inJail!! I would love to do it, except that I am 800 miles away. To the fool that thinks that Shifflett will come out vitorious and that chargers will be brought up agianst the victims and there parents....you have know idea what you are talking about cuz if you thought for a moment you would know that the victims thus far are adults themselves, not kids saying what their parents tell them too....oh and 2 of the victims are children to Mary Leake, (his biggest fan). Trying these scare tactics want work....You are just a stupid pion that should think of a better lie before trying to sell if here!!!! Its about time you get a life and stop following Shifflett's!!!! Shelly
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
To all you Mary L. fans you think she has big boobs,well they aren't that big it's all that offering money she stuffs in her bra. she was caught doing that by one of the boys that took up the offering. I quess her and shifflett had some fun at the expense of his brainwashed followers. Don't believe me, just ask her about it and watch her stupid old grin get wiped of her face! Oh But she's a good christian women...lol....lol....lol
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Shifflett to appear in court Liz Mitchell Staff Writer Monday, September 18, 2006
Charles Shifflett, pastor of First Baptist Church of Culpeper, is scheduled to appear in Circuit Court today to state whether he is innocent or guilty of the seven felonies he’s facing.
Shifflett, 54, was scheduled for arraignment two weeks ago but his case was continued to allow his lawyer, Samuel Higginbotham II, of Orange, to obtain a “bill of particulars” from the commonwealth, which would outline facts of each charge against his client.
Shifflett faces seven charges of physical and sexual abuse against children for incidents that occurred at his former church, Cavalry Baptist, up to 20 years ago.
Assistant Commonwealth’s Attorney Tom Smith is representing five victims in the case. Chad Robison, 29, was the first person to come forward after the Culpeper County Sheriff’s Office arrested Shifflett in January on charges of cruelty and injury to children. Three of Shifflett’s charges relate to physical and sexual abuse against Robison.
Later that month, Liz Bailey, 35, obtained a citizen warrant against Shifflett on a charge of indecent liberties for an incident of a sexual nature that occurred in 1988.
In March, her 28-year-old brother Woody Leake brought charges against Shifflett for physical and emotional abuse he endured as an elementary school student at Cavalry Baptist Academy - the church’s adjoining K-12 private school. One of his charges was dropped.
However, Shifflett is facing a charge of cruelty and injury to Leake for a “tree game,” in which Shifflett allegedly took boys out of school to split wood and told them to stand as close to the trees as possible while they were falling. Leake said Shifflett would belittle those who would run away by calling the children names.
The tree game constitutes another of Shifflett’s charges against an unnamed victim, who was 17 at the time.
Shifflett’s latest arrest came in June through direct indictments the commonwealth brought before a grand jury on two charges of cruelty and injury to children.
The first is in relation to 27-year-old Robert Hammonds, who attended the church’s school as a young boy and teenager.
The commonwealth has not commented as to the nature of the charge.
The second charge relates to Robison and is sexual in nature, but is considered “tormenting” a child because Smith said the commonwealth could not prove Shifflett had a lascivious intent. If found guilty, Shifflett could face a total sentence of up to 35 years in prison or a $17,500 fine for the Class 6 felonies.
His arraignment is scheduled for 4 p.m. today. If it is not postponed for any other legal reasons, a trial date should also be set.
Shifflett remains out of jail on bond with conditions that require him to refrain from alcohol, drugs and possessing firearms.
He is also forbidden to have direct or indirect contact or communication with any witnesses who will testify in the case, the victims or their family members.
And he must not have contact with anyone under 18 unless another adult is present
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
PRAY FOR JUSTICE TODAY AT 4 P.M.
.:webmaster:.
· 3 years ago
Click here for the direct link to the article just posted by anonymous.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Chuck is having a cookout after his arraignment today I think he's playing the "treegame" and "touchyfeely" everyone is invited!!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Anyone know what happen today at court with shifflett..?
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Chuck pled "not guilty". Trial date will be set on October 25 after they determine whether the cases will be combined or tried separetly. Looks like trial will be in early 2007. Looks like a slap on the wrist deal is coming! Ole Teflon Chuck!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
ATTENTION Culpeper Residents....I told you people of Culpeper to put this pervert behind bars for violation of his court order , now it might be after the first of the year before he goes to trial. Might as well let the pervert go! No one really cares about the case anymore and the longer the case is out of the public eye the less support for thr victims! Please read below and do something now!
Shifflett pleads not guilty
Liz Mitchell Staff Writer Tuesday, September 19, 2006
The case of Charles Shifflett, pastor of First Baptist Church of Culpeper, might not be tried until next year.
In Culpeper Circuit Court Monday, Shifflett, 54, pleaded not guilty to seven felony charges of physical and sexual abuse against children and requested a trial by jury.
The alleged charges involve five victims for incidents that occurred up to 20 years ago at Calvary Baptist Church - where Shifflett was the former pastor - and its adjoining K-12 private school.
Shifflett’s lawyer, Samuel Higginbotham II, of Orange, told Judge John Cullen in court Monday that he and Assistant Commonwealth’s Attorney Tom Smith are still discussing a motion to either combine or separate the charges. If joined, the trial could take several days. If separated, Smith said the court would probably be looking at four separate trials. The motion hearing is scheduled for Oct. 25.
Higginbotham said his client has already waived his right to a speedy trial and would prefer to try the case next year.
After consulting the court’s calendar, Cullen said he would generally reserve four trial dates: Jan. 3 and 4 and Jan. 29 and 30, but the actual trial date would not be set until the motion is heard in October.
Smith said the commonwealth is not seeking to join the charge involving Liz Bailey with any of the other charges.
According to a citizen obtained warrant, in March 1988 Bailey was finishing some homework alone in a classroom at the church’s school when Shifflett came in and rubbed his privates against her arm with lascivious intent. This is one of two charges Shifflett faces involving indecent liberties with children.
He also faces five charges of cruelty and injury to children. The Class 6 felonies carry a total sentence of up to 35 years in prison or a $17,500 fine.
Shifflett is now scheduled to appear in court Oct. 25 at 1:30 p.m. for a motion hearing, where the court would decide to try all the charges at once or independently.
Shifflett remains out of jail on bond with conditions that require him to refrain from alcohol, drugs and possessing firearms.
He is also forbidden to have direct or indirect contact or communication with any witnesses who will testify in the case, the victims or their family members.
And he must not have contact with anyone under 18 unless another adult is present
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
I agree with the comments above if Shifflett was already in jail for having contact with Mary L. then the trial would been alot faster cause he would be in jail for Christmas! Over 3 more months for him to continue to brainwash people, collect funds,and be around our youth. What are the residents of Culpeper thinking of? Evidently not the victims in this case.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
The update: He pled not guilty so he goes to trial, he waived his right to a speedy trial so its going to be one of those long drawn out processes. Let me just say this; in Culpeper today a theif is caught red handed and is out on the streets to rob again the same day what are the chances that justice will be served in any court of law? I say little to none.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
You people in Culpeper are a bunch of toothless hicks....you complain about the actions of the preacher man yet you did nothing to put him away because of his interactions with family members....you are nothing but talk....I hope the man gets off!! now his trial will be forgotten until next year, maybe get a smack on the hand....you trailer trash inbred hicks of Culpeper deserve a chump like Chuck....I hope he becomes your damn Governor!!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Culpeper isn't full of toothless hicks and preachers like Shifflett are not in Culpeper alone. The toothless comment was not really necessary, but I do agree he should have been put away a long time ago. I know the fear these victims speak of. It's not fear alone but the shame and the guilt as well. As a child I experienced abuse of a sexual nature, I never spoke of it, back in the 70's & early 80's you didn't speak of this. It was unheard of you wouldn't not be believed, and possibly they'd institutionalize you for making the accusation. The commments made about the subject are ignorant made by people who were not even born in that time period and if they were they were too young to remember.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
As a parent of two children who attended the school for a VERY short term, I will say this, THANK GOD He gave me the ability to listen to HIM, following a school meeting hearing Shifflett say "Don't believe everything your child tells you about us, and we won't believe everything your child tells us about you" I had the insight to remove my children from the school and immediately put them back in public schools. As far as character I do believe that one of the many duties of pastors is to help others not break them down, it is not their job to point fingers, but to assist them in finding their way to God. This pastor also was solely responsible for marriages to end, how? by getting to each party separtely and telling them different things to start them thinking something untrue about the other. He tried this with my husband and myself and he FAILED, God joined us and only God will pull us apart, not this so called preacher, even if justice is not served on earth God's say is final and the price will be paid there. He cannot escape God's judgement. I'm sorry to those who have experienced his cruelity here and in time you will be rewarded keep your head up and keep God ever mindful. You may ask why but someday when the time is right God will show you the reason for it all.
Coop
HappyInJesus
· 3 years ago
This latest manuver by Shifflett and his lawyers does not come as a suprise. If you were quilty, wouldn't you waive your right to a speedy trial? Shifflett is going to go as long as he can because he knows there is plenty of evidence to convict him. This is nothing more than the actions of a desparate man. The fact that Mary L. is around the preacher has been told to the authorities so it's up to them what they do. I agree that the court system sure is bending over backward to accommodate Shifflett's request. I have also been told that the treasurer at First Baptist Church in Culpeper resigned and left the church after he caught some of the people taking cash out of the offering plates before it was counted. Shifflett is up to his old tricks again. One more thing, we will not forget the victims no matter how long the trial drags out. They've had the courage to stand strong this long and they'll see it through to the end. I for one will be in the court room on the day of the trial to let the victims know that we haven't forgotten. They've already done what was necessary to expose Shifflett for what he really is. The victims can't help it if the people who still support him are putting their children at risk. God bless the victims and give them strength to press on.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
HappyinJesus....you keep going on about there is so much evidence against Chuck Shifflett...."WHERE IS IT?"....the evidence must not be so much because they let the man walk the streets, continue with his ministry and are around several minor children....look at his conditions....refrain from drugs and alcohol....BIG SHIT!....he never used drugs or alcohol before all this mess....not possess any firearms....LA-DEE-DA!....I guess his guns are at someone elses home....I'm guessing he can no longer go "coon" hunting like we've done on several occasions....you people of Culpeper should start a rally in front of the courthouse and demand that Chuck do jailtime for interacting with this Mary L. person....it must not be too important to the authorities since I've read that they already know about this Mary L. person....you people in Culpeper need to come to grips....Chuck is not in so much trouble as you people think....only your hate for the man drives your anger and your "all-knowing" comments....so, what's the evidence? I'm sure you have SO MUCH MORE than has been laid out by the Star Exponent, Freelance Star and 430+ comments on this website....get your head out of your ass! OYVEY!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Looks like anonymous comments are once again available!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Where do you think the evidence is going to be presented, on a website? The proof is in the hands of the DA and will be presented in an open court. Some of the proof was shown to the Grand Jury who indicted Shifflett on 7 felonies. Looks like they saw enough to file charges.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Well, Shifflett had the kids from his school out selling candy again this weekend to raise money to build him a building. He's got his school in the skating ring this year and still up to old tricks. It is so frustrating to see how the Dept. of Welfare and the courts are allowing him to do what ever he wants. When is someone in a position of authority going to do something?
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
I heard old perverted shifflett was all up on mary L. last week. It just is sickening how this piece of crap is allowed to do as he pleases. Preaching funerals telling people he's going to heaven one day and see so and so and how these people die believing that this evil thing is a man of god. what more does this person have to do to the people of Culpeper before they say enough is enough!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
If Chuck gets off you have no one but yourself to blame. You write on here about how he is breaking the terms and conditions of his release but you don't document your findings and turn your info over to the DA's office. You just like to "talk big", you're gossiping, trying to stir things up. YOU ARE NO BETTER THAN CHUCK! Why don't you Do something with all of your evidence and information?? If not... shut the f*** up.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
I have turned it in to the police. They just won't do anything. I've told them to go and check on Sundays and Wednesdays but so far, nothing. They already know but don't seem to care.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
I kinda of thought that someone should be turned him in for this violation. Just remember Culpeper residents what officials you have in office when it comes voting time again. Be a voice for the children of Culpeper since the law won't be one for them, Remove them from power and get someone in office that will not support someone like shifflett! It will be for the protection of your children and Grandchildren and the best for the public in general.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Shifflett goes to court today to hopefully have a trial date set. Please keep us informed if you hear anything. I see that his tent is gone from the skating ring now. I hear that he is meeting in the Ruitan Club in Lignum. I guess that as long as you have the money, you can make the rules. Who would rent to a child abuser?
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Don't you know that Chuck has most of the Culpeper PD in his back pocket. Why else is he getting away with all this crap. That is why it is taking so long. They don't care. It is all a bunch of crap. He is a sorry, no account, good for nothing, child abusing piece of crap. The only money he has is the money that he is keeping from the offering plate. I hope that this trial date is a lot sooner than later. I would like to see this all be over with and Chuck Shifflett pay for everything that he has done. It will happen. These victims need justice.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
I see that the First Baptist Church of Hammond people are still coming to Culpeper to support their faithful puppet Shifflett even though he's an indicted child molester. I can't believe that I sent one child to college there and considered sending another. Not anymore! They've shown their true colors and proven again that the only thing they're concerned with is building and preserving their ministry. Shifflett, you learned well and you've been a good little boy and kissed their rear end. All that food and money you've sent to Hammond has not only bought you a Doctors degree (What a joke that is), but they keep coming down to check on their money source. Well, when you finally go down, their influence isn't going to help you.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Shifflett charges split up
Liz Mitchell Staff Writer Tuesday, October 17, 2006
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In Circuit Court Monday, Judge John R. Cullen separated the seven charges facing Charles Shifflett into four trials.
Shifflett, 55, is pastor of First Baptist Church of Culpeper. He pleaded not guilty last month to charges of physical and sexual abuse against children that allegedly occurred nearly 20 years ago at his former Culpeper church - Cavalry Baptist - and its adjacent K-12 private school.
The first trial is scheduled for Jan. 17. Two other trials will follow in January and the final trial is scheduled for Feb. 28. During court proceedings, the commonwealth moved to combine six of the charges into one case and try the final charge separately.
Shifflett’s defense attorneys said their client should not be subjected to a “shotgun approach” of allegations as broad as racial complaints to excessive whipping and sexual offenses that were originally brought as separate indictments. Ultimately, Cullen ruled to combine some, but not all, of the charges.
In his argument for combining the cases, Assistant Commonwealth’s Attorney Tom Smith said in six of the instances Shifflett was acting in a leadership capacity on the school’s campus trying to control students’ behavior.
The seventh charge, Smith said, is “purely sexual in nature and not connected.”
Defense attorneys Charlie Bowman and Samuel Higginbotham II, of Orange, said the cases should not be joined and the length of time between incidents was an issue. The seven incidents are alleged to have occurred between 1988 and 1999.
“These are all very, very different charges,” Bowman said. Smith countered saying that justice required the trials to be combined.
“He’s acting in the same capacity with students under his leadership in the same place with the same motive,” Smith said stating the motive was to use manipulative tactics to control children.
“For justice to be done the jury is entitled to determine what his motive is,” Smith said.
Cullen determined that three of the cases relating to work that was done on the school’s property were similar in nature and could be combined. These include two charges involving a “tree game,” in which Shifflett allegedly took boys out of school to split wood and told them to stand as close to the trees as possible while they were falling. Smith said Shifflett would belittle those who would run away by calling the children names.
The third charge involved Robert Hammonds, whom Smith said was also conducting outside work on the school’s property but was not walking up a hill fast enough so the defendant allegedly shot at him and called him a racial slur.
Cullen also combined two charges, which are essentially the same sexual act against alleged victim Chad Robison.
The final two charges, Cullen ruled, would be tried separately. Originally the trials were going to begin in November. Due to the complicated nature of the case and a personal request by Higginbotham, Cullen scheduled the trials to start next year.
Liz Mitchell can be reached at 825-0771 ext. 110 or emitchel@starexponent.com.
Breakdown of Charles Shifflett’s trials
Charles Shifflett, pastor of First Baptist Church of Culpeper faces seven charges involving physical and sexual abuse against children for incidents that occurred at his former church and its private school. Some of the charges were combined in Circuit Court Monday. Below is a trial schedule:
First trial: Jan. 17 at 9:30 a.m. What: Shifflett faces three charges of cruelty and injury against Chad Robison, Woody Leake and Robert Hammonds that are said to have occurred while the children were splitting wood or working on school grounds. Two of the charges involve a “tree game,” where children were allegedly called names for running away from a falling tree. The third charge involves Hammonds, one of the only black students at Cavalry Baptist Academy, who was allegedly shot at and called a racial slur for not walking up a hill fast enough. Reason: Judge John Cullen combined these cases because they all involved work on the church’s school property.
Second trial: Jan. 24 at 9:30 a.m. What: Shifflett faces a charge of indecent liberties with a child and cruelty and injury to a child. Both allegedly involved sexual acts against Robison when he was a student at the school in the early ‘90s. Reason: Cullen combined these cases because they involved the same alleged victim at the same time and place.
Third trial: Jan. 30 at 9:30 a.m. What: Shifflett faces one charge of cruelty and injury to Jason Rudd. The commonwealth says he was repeatedly beaten with a 2-by-4 in front of his class in 1999. Reason: Cullen did not combine this with any other cases because seven years had passed between this and the alleged “tree game” incidents.
Fourth trial: Feb. 28 at 9:30 a.m. What: Shifflett faces a charge of indecent liberties against Liz Bailey. She was a student at the church’s school in 1988 and says Shifflett rubbed his privates against her arm with lascivious intent. Reason: The commonwealth did not request to combine this case with any others.
shelly Mccarroll
· 3 years ago
OK...to the last Comment.....Dont place all the FBC people in the same boat! I do go to FBC now and have for the past 7 yrs and BELIEVE ME....I HATE SHIFFLETT! Their are a few mwmbers here that I grew up with at Calvary and they hate the scum too! I Have spoken to some "higher ups" in the church about the very case and Bro. Hyles used to preach that when you are a 'friend'...you are a friend through it all! Shifflett may very well have been the snake in the grass kissisng the a** but they were his friend. I dont like nor do I agree with it..I pray that they will find the truth out and realize that they are supporting this discusting pervert! Dr. Schaap however....HAS NEVER COME TO CULPEPER and for good reason...He sees through the joke of that creep! Shifflett used a good "OLD FASHIONED" man and used his life to act like he was a good man and in that people now hate Bro. Hyles and FBC. I Would give anything to see Shifflett pay for what he has done to my FRIENDS and I may have been a lucky one(I only received the emmotional) and I love Chad and Robert to death and I have known Woody since grade school! I BACK THEM 100% and wish I could do more! So dont count us all out up here....I hate that man and have personnally talked to Bro. Schaap about this and we arent all behind this creep!!!!!!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
So, Dr. Schaap knows what Shifflett is and still allows his people to come to Culpeper to support him. That's even worse! It's one thing to do something out of ignorance and quite another to do it on purpose. You can say that he's just being a friend to Shifflett, but what about what Shifflett did to Chad, Woody, Robert, Liz and Jason, not to mention a lot more that didn't come forward. No one in Hammond comes to preach or help Shifflett without Dr. Schaaps knowledge and approval. FBC's feelings are clear. Who's going to be a friend to the kids?
HappyInJesus
· 3 years ago
Shelly, don't you think that helping Shifflett form a new church where he can continue his abuse in going beyond friendship? Shifflett himself said that Dr. Schaap told him to start a new church down the street from Calvary. I saw a letter from Dr. Schaap where he was asked if he did tell Shifflett to do this. He did not deny saying it. I saw the letter myself. How do you think that makes the victims and the people who are still at Calvary feel? How can we support FBC and Hyles Anderson College anymore when the leader ship has so openly supported Shifflett who's goal it is to destroy his old church? I understand your postion, but don't try to defend something that has no defense.
Shelly
· 3 years ago
Happy in Jesus.....I think I know about who you are and you obviously know me. I went to Dr. Schaap about this cuz I Hate the fact of what Shifflett did....Dr. Schapps exact words were...I am not like your old Pastor. nor will I ever be like your old Pastor, so give me a chance to be your Pastor. I told Him that I hated church and had no faith in ANY man of God......But I have respect for Schaap cuz the man is different. No one is perfect....I know first hand that Dr. Schaap, when he is wrong he will admit it to you and apologize and mean it....as he did me. I have never had any respect for Shifflett..ever. He's discusting and I hope he rots in jail. When Bob Marshall came down to Shiffletts acult...HE DID NOT ASK FOR SCHAAPS APPROVEL.....he and his wife are grown adults and have family near by and they made their own decisions. Gosh cant you see that people believe what they want to see...JUST LIKE YOU AND ALL THE OTHER ADULTS AT CALVARY didnt see what that man was doing to all of the teens and children. It took you forever to stand up against that man....some sooner then others but... Geeze.....you all kissed his but. B Marshall chooses to take Shiffletts side and that is his choice....Schaap doesnt run his church like shifflett did...there are people under him but people make there own freakin decisions. I will go straight to Schaap this wkend and ask him first hand about the letter for I have counsiled with him many times and as I was a coward in the past God knows I'm am not afraid to find out the truth now!!! If you know me...you know that I hate Shifflett and unless you are man/woman enough to speak to me un---Happy in Jesus-- like, then dont act like you know what every one up here is thinking. Shelly oh yea...and if you think that I dont care what Shifflett did to Chad, Robert, woody and Jason....ask Chad..He knows my position and HOW DARE YOU SAY THAT I am backing people who support Shifflett.....theres proof that the victims started back way before I started the place and I know Darn good and well you or non of the other adults PROTECTED us THEM!!!! so eat you own words!
shelly
· 3 years ago
And by the way...to the people still at Calvary...There are a few people there that I still love and talk to and a few that I still think are stuck up...in your business..busy bodies. When I come down to Va. to visit my family I have brought my own kids to the place where I SWORE I would never step foot in again. I'm glad some one finally stood up to that creep. But dont think for a minute that everyone there OR HERE is perfect. There are a few that will smile at your face and tear you down all in the same minute...just cuz they enjoy being in other people lifes..and yes, there are people like Evans and Marshall that back Shifflett. There are good people at Calvary too...just like there are good people at FBC of HAMMOND! Shifflett was the main source of our abuise but to all the adults that stuck their noses up to us and the only time they shared with us was to start trouble....they had a role in destroying teens too....and they still go to CALVARY!!!! This is not about a church all backing someone or all hoping he pays..... Shiffletts a creep and I can only speak for MYSELF as should you. I DONT BACK HIM...... I SUPPORT THE VICTIMS 100%...SHELLY
Threenails
· 3 years ago
Why don't you gals/guys exchange emails and argue your points out of the public eye? None of this exchange has anything to do with why the article was posted here in the first place, which is/was to show that self-elected people/leaders of the Christian faith don't have a "spirit" dwelling within them---they are no better than anyone else, including people who don't believe in your flying man-god, jesus.
Thanks.
Its me again!!!!
· 3 years ago
Happy in Jesus......Stop and think what you are saying. Shifflett himself said that Dr. Schaap told him to start a church down the street...... and you supposedly saw a letter where Dr. Schaap didnt deny saying that he told him too! Wip d do da day!!!!!! So now you Do believe what Shifflett said?????!!!! So is Shifflett telling the truth??? HHHMMMMMM Why believe anything that Shifflett says...he also says that he is innocent! So when exactly is he lying again and when it he telling the truth????How can you tell!! Unless you are Man/Woman enough to Ask Dr. Schaap himself...dont be so quick to judge him. Cowling and all of the others dont have to ask their "acult" leader, they are grown adults and make their own decissions or where they choose to visist and "preach". Shifflett was the ACULT leader...NOT DR. SCHAAP! Get a life and stop acting like you can speak for others!!! Now your are sounding like shifflett......
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
No matter who said what or who did what, Chuck Shifflett needs to be in jail. I don't understand how anyone no matter who they are, could back up Charles Shifflett. What you people at Calvary don't get is that you too, at one time or another, also stood behind Chuck Shifflett. You werent there for us when we needed you all. All of the signs were there that something was wrong and going on, but noone would believe or take notice. No wonder non of us trust any church now. By the time you all figured it all out and started believing in the teens, it was to late. So much damage has been done and you act like we are all supposed to just say okay because you believe us now. I just don't get that. How many kids had to run away from home and how many teenage girls had to get pregnant..and how many of them had to be completely miserable. We all knew about the money, but you closed your eyes to it...we knew about the affairs, but you closed your ears to it...I have yet to hear anyone apologize to any of the teens that went to that church and school that tried to tell you what was going on and tried to show you all. All that time you all were just thinking we were in that rebelous stage and we were "Bakesliding" Stop and think about how many of the teens that went to school with these victims do you see in church now. Not many of them. How are we supposed to trust people anymore. I like Shelly have never stepped foot in Calvary Baptist Church since I left there over 10 years ago. I went for a graduation one time and when I left there I was so sick at the way some of the people were. Most of them had not changed. They still look at you like you are trash becuase you weren't as good as them and still stuck their noses up in the air and the ones that did talk just wanted to find some new gossip. I just pray that the kids that are in Chucks new "playhouse" are not going through what most of us did. We might not all have been physically abused by this man, but the emotional abuse was just as bad. It is hard to let go of that and to trust anyone. No matter whether Jack Schaap does or doesn't back Chuck Shifflett up really doesn't matter..he is in another state. He didn't victimize you. What matters is that Chuck Shifflett is found guilty and the children of Culpeper are safe.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Wow no comments after that one..must have hit a nerve.
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Anonymous 10/18/2006 2:28 PM : Your wrote "I have yet to hear anyone apologize to any of the teens that went to that church and school that tried to tell you what was going on and tried to show you all. All that time you all were just thinking we were in that rebellious stage and we were "Bakesliding" Stop and think about how many of the teens that went to school with these victims do you see in church now. Not many of them. How are we supposed to trust people anymore." Your post bought back old feelings when I was a teen at Ripley Community Church and Chuck was the Asst Pastor there. I too was made to feel as if I was a bad Christian, a wild rebellious teenager, a trouble maker for speaking up. I was made to feel unworthy of God's love. When I tried to show them what Chuck was doing they thought I trying to place blame on Chuck to draw attention away from my own sins. I was strong and outspoken; not afraid to express my opinions. But He used my “strong will” to draw the attention away from himself and his behavior. He was very successful at poisoning what others thought of me; turning my best friend against me and ruining my reputation. He even convinced some of my own family members that I was a lost soul because I would disagree / debate Chuck and expressed my own thoughts and opinions. Because of how badly Chuck had influenced their opinion of me adults, leaders, family members in the church wouldn’t listen to anything I might say regarding Chuck. At 16 years old I left my family church to return only for funerals or weddings and after all these years a feeling of disgust comes over me. I'm sorry for all of us who were made to feel Worthless by this wicked man!!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
"You are a bunch of freaking kooks"....Chuck is "THE TEFLON PREACHER MAN"....Chuck is just goofy "GOOFY"....I would love to have played the "tree game!"....what a rush that would be....think of all the bravery lessons that was taught to those children....the only people against this is the women and the pussywhipped men....Chuck was teaching them bravery and self confidence....all you haters of Chuck are KOOKY man....Chuck is not a monster....he's a child minded adult....he likes adventure and fun even at his age....I wonder how many kids laughed when Chuck belittled them in jest...."EVERY DAMN ONE OF THEM I'M SURE!"....but now it's such a serious crime!....you sound like a fun guy Chuck....Think adults about some of the "crazy" things you did at their age....oh, I forgot, you're a grownup now!....hate makes you do some weird stuff!!!!! oyvey!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Happy in Jesus....sounds like your infinite wisdom is coming out again....you are such a little busy body....you seem to know so much about shifflett....did you once experience intimacy with shifflett?....you know about the abundance of evidence and the conversations of chuck....do you open chuck's mail?....I know, you were the church secretary when shifflett was pastor and chuck confided so much in you!!....your ignorance of things you "THINK" you know about are rather amuzing....go ahead....defend your honor....I'm sure I will be amused at the calamity!
Anonymous
· 3 years ago
Everybody has been quiet lately. I've got some good information about Shifflett but I'm not at liberty to tell right now. Shifflett and his supporters are going to be suprised. He's finally going to get what's coming to him and his followers are going to look like the fools they are. Merry Christmas Shifflett!
All Comments
What you believe is not necessarily the truth!
You believe only what you wish to believe!
No one every saw Jeffrey Dahmer have sex with dead bodies and then eating them either! So with your analogy, Dahmer was totally innocent.
I was a member of that congregation several years ago. I have NEVER seen Preacher Shifflett alone with a teenage girl. I have never seen him hurt a child. These allegations are being made out of sheer vindictiveness. And he is not a Priest. He is married to a lovely lady and has 3 grown daughters who are devastaded by these accusations. He is a good man who is being trashed by folks who are ENCOURAGING their TEENAGERS TO MAKE UP STORIES!
If he is found guilty by a jury of 12, in a court of law, will you still believe that teenagers are making up stories. Yes you will, because any negative goes against your brainwashed belief.
Sorry anonymous, but you have been bamboozeled not only by this preacher, but by society and their silly beliefs as well. Time to give up the imaginary friends and live in truth, and not in fairytales.
That's a good one, by the way, about the priest growing "fondler."
The building of churches over here in Fort Worth is what drives our economy! I'd personally rather be in a recession! heehee
No, you haven't......because if you DID see them, they wouldn't been "alone", now would they? D'oh!!!
God 'less.
They can't stop building them over here. They've built two along my 4 mile trek to work in the last month or so. I see them all over the place being built. They pop up in no time.
There's a massive mega-church near where I live. The parking lot is not big enough so they have another lot across the street. On Sunday they have POLICE (our tax dollars at work) directing traffic and allowing masses of churchgoers to cross the street. I do mean masses.
I say those christians ought to have an overpass built between the lots and pay for it themselves with all those millions. Or maybe they should have a shuttle service. Nice to know that if I need a cop because I've been mugged the response time will be that much slower on Sunday morning.
Some of those churches here are right next to each other, or right across the street. Two different denominations! I wonder if they can hear each other condemning the other to hell...
Annoy, are you trying to lump us all in with that pedophile? Are you saying that becasuse we don't believe we are vile like that fundie preacher? Well I think that is exactly what you are saying. Luckly, I have a very high self esteem and tolerance for that kind of ignorance. I would not want to be in your shoes with such a stinking thinking. Check yourself deary.
"Let's get one thing straight, Mr. Shifflett brought this all on himself. He manipulates people, brainwashes them, uses them, and then, get's rid of them."
LOL!!! Really?....he *maniputlates* them?....he *brainwashes* them?....he *USES* them? Yoo hoo?....knock-knock?....hellooo?....anyone home?? ROFLMAO!!
Nevermind, fart-knocker...I wouldn't expect you to "get it" anyway. Okay, moving on.... you say that Mr. Shifflet "brought this all on himself", eh? Hmmm, how ironic---your "omniscient" deity, Yahweh, also brought on the very problem of "sin", and the whole "redemption" through "salvation" gag.
Y'see, Anon, Biblegod is a wuss-bag.....either that, or he's a complete moron. Why, you ask???.... because, A) He could've simply chosen not to "create evil" to begin with(ref: The Bible)...or B) He could've destroyed "evil" at ANY point in time AFTER he created it...right? RIGHT. Or wait, maybe Biblegod isn't "omnipotent" at all...? or better yet....maybe the whole CONCEPT of "God" is man-made?
Let's see....what's more likely--- a "God" who can "snap" a whole Universe and everything in it into existance, and yet, be utterly foiled by an evil pitch-fork weilding man in a red leotard(yikes!!!).....OR, there are no gods or devils and the Universe is natural, and self-caused. Hmmmm...?
What a reliefe to see that some peole believe in physical scientific evidence over and not a fictional spiritual "being".
What a relief!!!!!!
P.S. I have never trusted Shifflett and I know that he has mistreated many of teenage boys!!!!
Now as a 50 year old mother of two All I have to say to Chuck is...Pay backs are hell and it looks like you are on you way to getting yours!
Some things he forgot to mention.... he dated Shiffletts oldest daughter....he quit Rock of Ages Prison Ministry......... he is no longer ordained.....he is no longer married to his first wife......he is right if you dig a little deeper you will find a soap opera.....birds of a feather....
Culpeper Star Exponent
Friday, February 17, 2006
A new arrest warrant has been filed in the ongoing case of Charles Shifflett, pastor of First Baptist Church of Culpeper, according to the Sheriff’s Office.
Shifflett, 54, has been arrested three times since Jan. 17 on charges of cruelty and injury to children, child endangerment and two counts of indecent liberties with a child.
Sheriff’s Office Sgt. Jim Fox said the most recent warrant was obtained Thursday at 2:11 p.m. and had yet to be served as of that evening.
According to Fox, another woman claiming to be a victim obtained the Class 6 felony warrant for an offense that allegedly occurred between January and March of 1990.
The charge, “unlawfully causing bodily injury with the intent to maim, disfigure, disable or kill,” is one of five other felonies Shifflett faces.
The woman, who was not named, would have been 10 at the time of the offense. She is the third person who has filed citizen complaints with the Culpeper County Magistrate’s Office and has obtained warrants.
Chad Robison, 29, was the first to come forward and claims Shifflett physically and sexually abused him while he was a student at the school. Liz Bailey, 35, also a former student, obtained a warrant about 10 days after Robison for charges of sexual abuse against Shifflett.
The charges stem from incidents that allegedly occurred at Calvary Baptist Church, where Shifflett was the former pastor. The church also had a K-12 school where Shifflett was principal.
For all felonious charges, Shifflett faces up to 25 years in prison, five years in jail or a fine up to $12,500.
Culpeper Star Exponent
Saturday, February 18, 2006
More than 10 churchgoers, including two young mothers with babies and a Town Council candidate, crowded into the Culpeper County Magistrate’s Office Friday morning in a show of support for Charles Shifflett, pastor at First Baptist Church of Culpeper.
Shifflett, 54, turned himself in to authorities around 9 a.m. Friday after a warrant was issued Thursday for his arrest. He is charged with felonious assault on a 10-year-old girl in 1990.
Shifflett’s latest detainment marked the fourth time in a month that he has been arrested on charges of child injury, endangerment and indecent liberties.
Handcuffed and dressed in a short-sleeved white shirt, Shifflett appeared in General District Court around 11 a.m. Friday, and was released from jail after noon on a $2,500 secured bond.
“I’m out,” said Shifflett, departing the magistrate’s office with his wife, Janice, and the group of supporters at his side. “No comment,” he said of the ongoing investigation against him. “No ma’am.”
Mrs. Shifflett also had no comment. “I’m not going to say anything,” she said.
Tom Reese, a Culpeper auctioneer running for Town Council in the May election, put up the money for Shifflett’s release and said he also posted the $2,000 bond the first time Shifflett was arrested.
Reese, 76, said he is a 19-year member of Shifflett’s two congregations and a trustee at First Baptist. Reese, former mayor of Remington, said he is “100 percent sure” of “Preacher’s” innocence.
“Why would somebody wait 26 years, 20 years, 16 years to come forward with this?” Reese said of the pending charges filed against Shifflett by three former students at Calvary Baptist Academy, located next to Calvary Baptist Church, where Shifflett formerly served as pastor.
“I don’t think he did anything wrong,” Reese added. “I know he is not that type of guy.”
Reese tied the recent string of charges to the split of Calvary Baptist Church in November, when Shifflett resigned as preacher there and started First Baptist. His new church meets at Dominion Skating Center on Sunday mornings and evenings and Wednesday night.
“I think some of the people who split from Calvary are the backbone of this thing,” Reese said.
He added that getting Shifflett out of jail was more important than his own political aspirations.
“If it meant freeing the preacher, I’d rather do that than be on Town Council,” said Reese.
New charges
In the new arrest warrant filed Thursday, the alleged victim claimed Shifflett “spanked” her repeatedly during one incident in 1990 when she was 10 and a student at his school.
In her handwritten statement, the now 26-year-old women - whose identity the Star-Exponent has decided to keep anonymous - said Shifflett “called me into his office” to ask about “her sister’s birth control pills.”
“I told him I didn’t know what they were and he told me I was lying. He was also asking me if she was having sex and I told him that I didn’t know and he said I was lying about that. So he told me that I was going to get a spanking. He got a ping pong paddle and started to spank me.”
The alleged victim said she was instructed to “hold my hands together on the edge of the desk” and “if I started to move, made a noise or anything he would hit me harder.”
From his office, the warrant says, they moved into “the main church area where I had to hold the end of a pew. That is when he broke the paddle.”
The woman said she was told “to stand still and don’t move” and when Shifflett returned, “he had a new paddle.” The spanking continued for a “few more minutes,” the woman said, “then it moved into the side hallway where the nurseries were.”
At this point, the woman stated on the arrest warrant, she told Shifflett she had to go to the bathroom, but he refused her permission.
“After a few more minutes, I told him that if I didn’t go I was going to wet myself and he let me go,” she said. “I was hurting so bad at that point that I could barely sit when I got out of the bathroom. He continued until someone came to get him.”
The woman said Shifflett told her “to wash my face and go back to the class and if anyone asked me I just got in trouble and not to tell.”
The alleged victim said she told her father about the reported incident when she got home from school that day: “He looked at my bottom and it was bruised with red marks that looked like blood. He almost took me to the hospital.”
After that, she said, she did not return to Calvary Baptist Academy and her father enrolled her in public school.
“And now that this has come back up I have nightmares about it and can’t sleep,” the woman said, concluding her written statement.
Shifflett is scheduled to appear at a hearing April 4 at 9 a.m. in Juvenile and Domestic Relations Court. More charges in the ongoing investigation are expected, officials say.
Background:
In October, the Culpeper County Sheriff’s Office began an investigation of Shifflett, prompted by a church member coming forward with concerns of how the school was run.
- Three of his subsequent four jail bookings resulted from arrest warrants obtained by former students Chad Robison, 29, Liz Bailey, 35 and the woman who filed her citizen complaint through the magistrate’s office Thursday.
- Robison claims Shifflett sexually and physically abused him while he was a student at the school. Bailey obtained a warrant about 10 days after Robinson on charges of sexual abuse against Shifflett.
Religious leaders, appeal to god to absolve them of the things that are abhorrent to anyone with a modicum of moral decency. The status quo will remain, until religious leaders, their doctrine of hate, and the parents who push their children into indoctrination in the early years of their life are held legally accountable for their actions.
Ironic though, as much as I detest Shiffletts' actions, I don't think that an eternity in hell would be justifiable, if hell were real as portrayed by christianity. However, it appears that god has no problem with throwing him in the ol' lake of fire and throwing away the key, what a role model. I can see where Shifflett may have had a problem with a role model figure.
Many children who are abused, are ashamed, embarassed, or in shock and don't know what to do when they are young. Religion that preaches that people are depraved and fallen in sin, see themselves as naturally defective and at times deserving of the abuse they recieve. I know, sounds strange, however, abused children have common characteristics, sometimes aloof, sluggish, seemingly disconnected with their environment. When they finally come out of their state of shock over the years of psychological repression, they start the healing process, which starts out with anger. The victims, finally realized they were lied to, and were deserving of more than abuse, they finally learned that they were naturally valuable, and not defective by original sin. They finally accepted their self unconditionally, and dropped the religious baggage of sin and self abuse.
Anonymous 2/19/2006 8:59 PM: "As for the People in some of the post that don't believe in God, one even said there is no evidence to support that. I would suggest you looking at some of the 40 + thousand doc's. that are in museums that are preserved from 1000's of years ago."
Not one of those documents are signed by a Jesus. Many of those documents deny the divinity of Jesus. And, just because there is a lot of people who wrote about what they thought about, doesn't make it factually valid. There are over 1,860,000 web pages that have Santa Clause referenced, does that mean Santa Clause is more real that Jesus.
Anonymous: "It is overwelming the evidence."
Let see.
Anonymous: "There have been more buildings built, songs written, money given, lives changed as the result of one man who never traveled more than 200 miles from his birth place, only had a few friends, was unjustly tried and killed, and rose from the dead, than anyone in history."
This theoretical man, was only known for a short period of his life, the few years in his childhood and the last three years, per anonymous writings in the bible. The old testament, never mentions the name "Jesus", once, or "original sin" or "trinity" for that matter.
Anonymous: "You will ask how do you know he rose from the dead? Dont you believe the unbelievers of his day would have produced his dead body to disprove the Christians, if they had it."
Some would suggest, that there were no writings before mid to late first century CE that mentioned the name Jesus. Hence, if Jesus was a god, he sure didn't make an impact in his time, great enough to be written about. He didn't have one statue erected with his image, or one painting created. There is no archeological evidence for his existence, except the copies of texts that were passed through the generations. However, there were just as many texts that claimed Jesus was just a man, and not divine. If Jesus never existed, then, there obviously wouldn't be a body, or any archaeological evidence, and hence, there isn't.
Anonymous: "They could not because he was see of over 500 people at once."
The accounts of Jesus' resurrection, are based on writings written decades after Jesus was supposed to have lived. Why did it take that long to come up with the information. I mean, if a god died, and was resurrected, one would surmize that it would have made it into at least "one" document at that time. However, there is not "one" document of the era a Jesus was supposed to have lived, that mentions Jesus, at all, to include his resurrection.
I think it is time CHUCK SHIFFLETT took a long hard look at what he has done. Instead of running around
druming up supporters with his cheesey smile as if he is running for office---he should be thinking about what HE has done to his family !!!
What does Calvary Baptist Church have to do with it---he is no longer pastor there. Why do you call those people liars? What have they done? Those bringing the charges are not even members of that church.
Anonymous: "It's a free country and anybody can go to any church they want. I know I don't want to go to a church that has a child abuser as a pastor, Do you?"
Are you suggesting we should take your word, that he is a child abuser? I mean, you were there, right? Why wait until April to make a few observations, based on your statement.
Your point, that we live in a free country, and anyone can go to any church they feel like, may be true. However, the central view here, seems to be, not everyone should be a preacher/pastor, especially if they are a child abuser. It seems though, that Pastor Shifflet, has moved on to another church, after being presented with prior allegations of his 'potential' misconduct.
This may be a free country, and the individual rights of a citizen should be at the forefronts of our minds, however, when a person is openly accused, with written statements submitted to law enforcement, by a group of individuals for misconduct, then the accused is obligated to provide a response. Its how the system works, the pastor is innocent until proven guilty, however, he must respect the law, and respond to the allegations.
This pastor, chose, to move on, and begin anew with another congregation. Anyone, in public service as a leader who is accused of misconduct, should be suspended from their service, with benefits, until they clear their name, up-to a reasonable amount of time is provided to present their case in court.
This pastor, was not suspended from public service, and at this very moment could be continuing to engage in further misconduct. If this pastor would have did the "right" things, and went to court to clear his name, and the charges were found to be part of a personal vendetta against him, then he could have leveraged his legal right to counter-sue for slander, etc.
What is appalling, is that there is a public service leader, accused of child misconduct, who has physical access to children without restraint.
Further, if this pastor if found "guilty" of all charges, he may "still" have the opportunity to "serve" in a pulic service capacity, because being a pastor, isn't federally or state regulated, except for the purposes of tax law. He may be restricted from being exposed to children, etc., but that does not stop him from preaching the words that have inspired him to be who he is today.
Could it be possible, that this pastor's words and belief are part of the problem? If one says, this pastor's actions don't necessarily reflect the word of god, or the christian belief system (pick one of 38,000 christian denominations to choose from), then... why was he a preacher to begin with for so many years, without question. Perhaps, the congregation knew no better their own beliefs, and what this preacher taught.
Religious leader have to control their followers. If they can't, then they run the risk of losing their congregation.
There are many forms of control, one of them, is controlling the basic needs of a follower. How is this accomplished? Basic needs, like food, water, shelter, clothing, etc., require money. Money, requires a job, and typically a good paying job, requires an education. Therefore, religious leaders have found, it beneficial to keep their followers from becoming financially independent, by preventing advanced education.
If a follower states that they "will" get an education, and the family supports the decision, the religious leader will typically suggest a bible college or college that grants degrees that don't promote secular careers, i.e., piano, etc., as its difficult to become financially independent teaching piano lessons, but a piano teacher is great for free labor in church. I am only a few credits shy of a piano performance degree, from a bible college.
Its all about control, religious leaders compete with the economy. Our economic system, rewards people for getting advanced degrees and building this nation. However, religious leaders have a vested interest in preventing their followers from entering degree programs, that are philosophically contrary to religious teachings, i.e., engineering, mathematics, and science based degrees, etc. Its why... the U.S. has more international students enrolled in PhD programs in U.S. Universities, than it has U.S. citizens enrolled.
Religious leaders, at times, take the stance, that they have more right to lead the masses than the "individual" people, themselves, and therefore, block efforts for an individual to enter into society to gain financial independence. Moreover, religious leaders, also block efforts of their followers to climb the ranks within the church as well. Its all about control, and keeping everyone co-dependent on the pastor or religious leader, because without a steady supply of religious followers, a pastor doesn't have a job. And, its a job, and nothing more. Anyone, can pick up a bible, and read, and if they read really closely, they will realize that the bible in many places, just doesn't make sense.
Isaiah 45:7 - I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
This passage doesn't make sense, when a religious person says their god is a just and loving god, but obviously god creates evil according to the bible. Pastors, don't need educated followers, they need people who have no hope to escape poverty or a psychologically/emotionally co-dependent relationship. This pastor, engaged in tactics to control his followers; in any form he felt was appropriate - spanking, etc.
Religious leaders, validate their control levels by asking followers to engage in acts that are contrary to their natural instinct. If a religious leader can corrupt, a childs' conscience, they own them for life, as a child will slip psychologically into into a mentally repressive state of mind.
A child who is in that state of mind, will have a diffucult time trying to focus on education. Furthermore, a child who can not maintain clarity of thought, will have a hard time engaged in a job which requires high levels of awareness, as they will have a psychological ball and chain they carry with them for life. This psychological trauma, further perpetuates dependence on the religious leader/religion, its a continual loop of abuse.
The only escape... education, and it appears that this pastor seemed to deliberately derail each child's ability to gain an education. This isn't too surprising, its common practice with religious leaders who feel they need to "control" people, using religious rhetoric, and direct coercion.
I'm sure at one time they all loved and honored the ground he walked on.
Or is this just another case of the blind leading the blind?
Charles Shifflett bailed him out of jail and then turned his back on me and my 2 small children. God will have his way with him, and I will continue to pray for all those who have been hurt by him.
Even after all this has happened to C.S. and your family, it still has not occured to you that just maybe, just maybe, that the religion that this cretin was teaching and leading you people around like puppets could be fraudulent?
To me personally, this leading by example, I would want to burn the G-Damed church down with him in it.
The same thing happened at my parents church, the 56 yr. old preacher was caught by his wife in bed with a 21 yr. old woman, they just got a new preacher, no big deal, everybody just follows the wrong spirit once in a while.
It has nothing to do with the religion, god loves everybody, god is the same, yesterday, today, tomorrow.
Lets all join hands and sing all together now...cume bye ya my friends...cume bye ya.
I really just do not get it, how you nutjobs are just willing to forgive and dismiss any crime, fraud, scandal, rape, molestation, perversion, embezzelment, adultry, sodomy, crimes of passion, crimes against nature, the full gambit of whatever the fool preacher gets up and preaches against.
What it is, is that the preachers have this forgive the sinner sewn into the minds of his sheeple, this way should he, himself ever forbid get caught, his sheep will aways stand by him, ready to be forgiven, or bailed out, or lick his wounds and ass.
The more that I delve into the fraud of religion and jesus and preachers, the sicker it gets, I just do not know how much longer I can put up with this shit, this shit reaches way beyond sick, it is a mental psychosis, unimpenetrable by any amount of common sense or logic.
I've been hunting the right magical words for over 5 years to try to awaken you brainwahed christians up, it's now beyond words, there's a chemical imbalance
thats it, there's this invisible force called god, that only preachers have complete control of, that is poluting your minds, it's going right through your skull into the jack-ass nerve receptors, and once they get a harness on your brain, the preachers have complete control over you, you people are rendered completely brainless, spineless, wayward, zombie cult worshippers followers, lemmings, dolts, you're like sea gulls following a shrimp boat.
I would have never believed that adults were that sick, when I was just a young boy, religions are beyond childhood insanity, it's mentally induced complete mind domination, beyond the receivers own ability to recognize it, mind fog, deception, trickery, well that explains the daily news, and why the world is so screwed up and the masses of total insanity going rampant, christians are like rats on a sinking ship, except they do not want off, and leave their preacher.
How can a sane god allow religions to be like this?
March 8, 2006 12:50 am
Three more counts of child endangerment have been filed against a Culpeper minister who was already facing five similar charges.
Charles V. Shifflett, 54, was arrested Monday afternoon and released yesterday on $5,000 bond.
Two of the new charges were filed by Woodrow W. Leake III, who attended Cavalry Baptist Academy when Shifflett was the headmaster. The other was filed as part of an ongoing investigation by the Culpeper County Sheriff's Office.
According to court documents, Leake accuses Shifflett of mistreatment by paddling him in the fall of 1986 and forcing him to help cut and split wood as part of after-school activities from the fall of 1990 until 1992.
Leake's statement alleges that the split wood was then sold to help pay the salaries of Shifflett, who also was pastor of Calvary Baptist Church at the time, and academy teachers.
Leake also alleges that Shifflett "whipped" him with a 2-foot-long, 2-inch-thick and 4-inch-wide paddle after the student "back-talked a teacher five times."
Leake's age at the time of each alleged offense is not given on the court documents.
The third count, filed by sheriff's investigators, lists neither the name of the victim nor details of the alleged crime, which is said to have occurred in the fall of 1999. The victim in that incident was 17 years old at the time, according to a Sheriff's Office spokesman.
Sheriff Lee Hart did not discount the possibility yesterday the parents of the victims involved could be charged for forcing their children to attend the academy. He said such action has already been discussed and might be taken if Shifflett is found guilty.
"We'll have to wait and see what unfolds before moving in that direction," Hart said.
He added that it would be up to Commonwealth's Attorney Gary Close to decide if charges are warranted against any parents.
The Department of Social Services, which could promote such charges, has been involved in the investigations, according to sheriff's Sgt. Vern Fox.
Shifflett, who was pastor at the rural church for 22 years, resigned in November prior to the first charges being filed in January. He is now pastor of an offshoot congregation, the First Baptist Church of Culpeper.
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Of course, your god has a reasons for everything. I wonder what his reason for pedophilia is?
You get a whole religion that is basically founded on Munchausen syndrome, i.e., feigning pain, illness, damnation at birth, sinful, etc., to get attention, and then have the great invisible sky daddy, act as the caretaker.
If god, is given comfort through praise, glory, etc., for inciting such behavior, and god is pleased, then god is nothing short of manifesting Munchausem by proxy, where the proxy are the spiritually sick children, who are so, so, ill.
Munchausen is not a DSM IV, diagnosis, however, its a sub-type of the factitious disorder;
"FACTITIOUS DISORDER, (of which MUNCHAUSEN SYNDROME is a sub-type), (also called "Adult Munchausen", and "Adult Factitious Disorder") is a formal, DSM-IV mental health diagnosis in which people deliberately exaggerate and/or fabricate and/or induce physical and/or psychological-behavioral-mental health problems in themselves. The primary purpose of this behavior is to gain some form of internal gratification, such as attention, for themselves."
http://www.mbpexpert.com/definition.html
I like that, it has unity. Many religious claims, are affectionately called "faithful" beliefs, and yet, I feel the more appropriate term is "factitious" beliefs.
Either, way, someone is getting some attention out of it. People who require much attention, because of their learned/developed social structure, will lean towards any method in which they can satisfy their social needs - even if they have to go to church or religious settings in order to get these needs met. I will admit, however, that some people go to support and give attention to others, out of a sense of loyalty and care. I won't call them enablers, but some might.
In the end, people go to church, because they have needs, its that simple. Shitlett took advantage of people, who had human needs. An invisible sky daddy, had nothing to do with his actions, well, unless someone is going to suggest they have factual information on god, else, god per the christian tradition, is "fictitious" DSM-IV, NOS 300.19
Just this statement ALONE shows the idiocy in such an assertion. Yeah, there's 125 BILLION *known* gallaxies, meaning, we are basically a grain of SAND on a vast beach...yet, Mr. Omnipotent is going to help the "community". HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!
March 30, 2006 12:50 am
By DONNIE JOHNSTON
The initial accuser in the case of a Culpeper minister charged with eight counts of child endangerment got permission Tuesday night to stage a rally in Yowell Meadow Park on the morning of the preacher's arraignment.
Jimmy Rudd, in an emotional and rambling speech, appealed to the Culpeper Parks and Recreation Committee to allow him to hold the rally "to support our abused children."
He added that it was not coincidental that the April 4 rally at 8:30 a.m. is planned an hour before the Rev. Charles Shifflett appears in Juvenile and Domestic Relations Court.
"That's the same time [Shifflett] goes to court," Rudd replied when asked by committee member Chris Snider why a child support rally was being planned at a time when children are typically in school.
Snider hinted that another date might be more appropriate. And while Rudd at first entertained the idea, he then told the committee, "If I have to find a farm on the outskirts of town in a field with cow piles, I will have this rally!"
Rudd said he wanted to hold the rally on the morning of Shifflett's arraignment "to try to get the people to back the kids. I want to show that the county is behind the innocent ones who haven't been heard from yet."
In his statement to the committee, Rudd, a father of six, said that he is "a recovering alcoholic and drug addict" who has been "dry and straight for seven months now."
He added that he went to police in October and confessed to unspecified crimes that could possibly put him in jail for life. He said it was then that he persuaded the sheriff's office to begin its investigation of the 54-year-old Shifflett.
In his major event application--which the town refused to issue before the matter came before the Parks and Recreation Committee--Rudd stated that the maximum attendance at the rally would be 500.
In recommending that the permit be approved, committee Chairwoman Kathleen Snyder said, "It's a good cause and you're well-motivated."
She added that while she didn't anticipate trouble, she would still alert the town police of the rally.
Shifflett was pastor of Calvary Baptist Church during the late 1980s and the early 1990s. He is accused of forcing boys in the church-sanctioned Calvary Baptist Academy to work splitting and selling firewood, and of paddling one girl because she wouldn't admit that her older sister was on birth control pills.
Of the eight counts against the minister, only Rudd's unspecified accusations were brought by the sheriff's office. The other charges were filed by individuals.
Liz Mitchell - Staff Writer
Culpeper Star Exponent
Tuesday, April 4, 2006
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Charles Shifflett, the pastor at Culpeper Baptist Church who faces several charges of child abuse and neglect, is now being investigated for embezzlement.
“The Sheriff’s Office is investigating embezzlement allegations … and they are taking it in a measured and thorough manner, which is appropriate here,” Commonwealth’s Attorney Gary Close said. “My office is being kept abreast of their investigation, and we have met with potential victims and discussed their concerns. We will make a prosecutorial decision some time in the future.”
Shifflett, 54, faces eight charges of cruelty and injury to children, child endangerment, and indecent liberties with a child and felonious assault of a 10-year-old girl. The alleged physical and sexual abuse occurred nearly 20 years ago at Calvary Baptist Church and its private K-12 school, where Shifflett was pastor at the time.
According to Archie Seale, interim pastor at Calvary Baptist, the Sheriff’s Office obtained church financial records about three weeks ago.
“Yes, they have them right now,” Seale said. “They went back to 1987, boxes and boxes, and they are looking at them.”
Seale said the records contain checks, statements and deposit slips documenting financial transactions by the church.
“There seem to be some irregularities there,” Seale said. “So they decided they wanted to come and look at them. They are more qualified to look at them than we are.”
Close said his office has met with church members and discussed their concerns.
“We’ll address them as it appears to be appropriate in the future,” he said.
Sheriff H. Lee Hart said his office began the embezzlement investigation after church members contacted investigators with concerns. However, no search warrants have been conducted on church property.
According to the commonwealth’s attorney’s office, to commit embezzlement the accused must first have been in a trusted position and in possession of the goods of another. But one can also embezzle property that was entrusted or delivered to him.
The Code of Virginia states that proof of embezzlement shall be sufficient to sustain the charge of larceny, which if valued over $200 is punishable by up to 20 years in prison or a $2,500 fine.
If taken one step further, state law also prohibits money laundering, which is punishable by imprisonment for 40 years and/or a fine of $500,000. To commit this offense, the defendant must have conducted a financial transaction with stolen money.
Charges against Shifflett have been trickling in since January. Four warrants have been obtained from individuals claiming to be victims of his abuse.
In Juvenile and Domestic Relations Court today, the date for a preliminary hearing will be set, which will determine if there is probable cause to proceed.
Liz Mitchell can be reached at 825-0771 ext. 110 or emitchell@starexponent.com.
What we knew:
Shifflett faces eight charges related to physical and sexual abuse against children for incidents that occurred nearly 20 years ago at Calvary Baptist Church.
The latest:
The pastor of First Baptist Church of Culpeper is now being investigated for allegations of embezzlement at his former church.
What’s next:
Today, Juvenile and Domestic Relations Court will schedule a preliminary hearing to proceed with Shifflett’s case
He's no different than any other preacher that has ever claimed to be a preacher.
They all should be checked out and you will find that 100% are all false, fake, snake oil salesmen.
Any person that will get up and tell people that god knows all about people souls, and he knows something that you do not, which both are invisible and have never been seen, nor can be proven to exist, if you're stupid enough to belive such shit, you need to be in a mental institution.
This is the problem with America today, until people wake up from their mental delusions, the majority of Americans today, are mentally insane.
This is so scary that we have the majority of Americans controlling and voting, that are completely insane and they do not know this, because there is so many just like them, religions are accepted as being true, therefore they feel normal and OK and accepted by society and most of them do not want to know that they are completely insane.
Lets have some more insane Christians come on here and defend these charlatons.
We're waiting, we know he would never do such a thing, he's a man of God, and he told me that jesus loves me.
It's my belief that Chuck manipulated and intimidated his wife in the same manner as he did others in his churches. Abuse isn't always physical.
I do feel sorry for her, but she should have stood up for those children even if she could not stand up for herself.
I hear a lot of talk and it makes me wonder?
Does anyone know of any more blogs on Chuck Shifflett?
Sunday, February 26, 2006 pretty much sums up Chuck Shifflett!
http://www.starexponent.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=CSE/MGArticle/CSE_MGArticle&c=MGArticle&cid=1137834368806
"I am have not been able to locate any information on The Fundamental Baptist Forum website that gives info on Chuck Shifflett. Could you please post a link or give more direction / information"
Anonymous!
Try: (simplemindedhickpreacherwhogotcaught.com)
Dan (Not quite an Atheist, but will think about it when someone adequately defines what God is)
As you can tell I am not a supporter of Chuck Shifflett. However, many people from the old "Ripley Community Church" still support him and feel he's a victim. And I am certain sure they will continue to support him even if he is found guilty.
corner so stayed tuned. All those facts and figures don't lie. I don't see how you show your face in Culpeper knowing what you've done to your family and the cause of Christ. You're a joke! No wonder you meet in a circus tent! I quess the saddest thing of all is the fact that you've never even mentioned repentance or forgiveness. You just refuse to accept responsibility for anything you've done. Well, you've been exposed for the pervert, thief, and whoremonger you are and none of your Hammond friends can help you. By the way, who really cares what they think? From what I've been reading, they're as big a liar as you. Birds of a feather really do flock together!!!!!!!!!
I was gone when they left Ripley and went to Faith Baptist. Seem I remember someone saying people were upset about something and other people left the church at the same time. I know there was a lot of teens in the group at one time and if there was anything out of the way back then someone out there must of seen it but it wasn't me. Sorry I can't be of more help. Maybe someone else out there can help you find what your looking for. BUT please tell only the truth-!
Those who are still following Chuck Shifflett need to think for themselves. Seek the truth from The Holy Spirit. Let God lead them. Not Chuck Shifflett or any other person. You have a mind of your own use it!
All preachers are CULT LEADERS!!!
The only difference between a Muslim and a Christian is the clothes they wear!!!
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Happy in Jesus, you are completely bonkers!
God's about to reveal the truth!
Yes my friends, God's preparing to opening the envolope of truth right now!
Wait a minute, he's about to sneeze, OK now he's scratching is back!
Ok, this may take eons before God reveals the truth to us!
You're all a bunch of religious BAFFOOONS!!!
The mentally dead, leading the mentally dead!
Be careful Ben! Anyone who calls himself HAPPYINJESUS, could be dangerous!
All of these people who have their panties in a knot over the latest, grinning hick preacher who got caught messin around or stealin, are proud of their naivety, because their bible tells them to be naive.
Their bible tells them that they have to be naive in order to get to heaven. It's part of the escape proofing that the religious elite have written into religions ever since men invented God, in their likeness, and started writing books, and telling everyone that they were dictated by him.
Dan (Who ain't lovin nobody unless they consent to it)
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Happy In A Lie(jesus)
You are a liar! you'll be back! just like Shifflett, you're a liar!
All preachers are liars, all christians are liars, Jesus was a liar, the Bible is a lie!
You've been told so many lies you could not recognize truth if it run over you.
You're just plainly ignorant, because you want to be, any person can put up a sign that says, House of God, or Jesus Saves, or Church, and people like you will flock to it and say this man must surely be a man of God, but when they get caught, molesting children or embezzeling or adultery, well he was temped by Satan, and who will cast the first stone.
It takes a lie to perpetuate a lie, just like Jesus did, he said that there will be some of them that stand here which shall not taste of death until they have seen the kingdom of God come with power.
Peter lied to Jesus 3 times, how many times have you told a lie?
Happy you are a liar, living in a lie, you love a lie, you are the father of a lie!
Go to my weblog for prayer and consultation!
Ah, unless Allah is the one true god.
Of course, you've also lost your entire life running after and converting other people to a delusion.
I guess people who have lost their minds have lost nothing either.
He lied 3 times, and yes it was to Jesus about Jesus!
David grow up! you're pathetic!
He still stands proud and tall with no shame.
It took over 20 years for enough people to stand up to Chuck at the same time to make a difference. Some of those same people at one time in thier life would have fought for Chuck. But then they saw the truth. There are some good people who go to his church they just don't see him in light of truth yet.
Everyone has problems and makes mistakes. I thought this was about Chuck Shifflett and the lives he has hurt.
My heart goes out to those who have been hurt by him. And to those who still live in fear of him.
Don't go after others in the name of "Shiffllett"----then you leave the true issues and that is just whar he wants.
My child has a better education in 3rd grade then we did in that school. We never took algebra when I went we took "How to be a Lady" and wear make up and how to sew clothes and how to be a good woman even though we were still kids. I ended up having to get my GED and take classes before I could get that. And go to college I have to take a bunch more high school classes cuz we never did it. I hope that the children that are there now are getting a better education than we did.
All I have to say is I know that the people that are coming forward are telling the TRUTH...I have seen it and been on the receiving end of a lot of his crap. Never again. And for the parents that never believed there children...and still choose to follow Shifflett...SHAME ON YOU!!!!!...YOU CHILDREN SHOULD ALWAYS COME FIRST. If one of my kids ever came to me about something like that I would not hesitate to believe them. The trial date is soon approaching and I can't wait to hear the result..Whether the jury and judge find him guilty or not...He will still have another judgement to go through in the end.
I have had a lot of trouble ever trusting anyone becuase of the lies that man has told and the emotional crap he put me through along with my family. I am glad that he has finally gotten caught and I just hope that he gets the punishment that he deserves. For the people that still are with this "Preacher" I hope that you will one day open your eyes and get out of his control and see him for what he really is. A Fake.
What is it going to take to convence you nut cakes that all preachers and all religions are totally false and fake?
Why is it that all you religious NUTS, Refuse, Plainly Refuse to see that the Bible and Qu'ran and Politicians and all Preachers are all fakes, running a Hoax, a con?
Why are you guys so scared of Truth, the Truth is, IT's all a LIE! A frigging LIE, are you all so ignorantly so stupid that you cannot recognize a total LIE?
False Prophets and False Preachers, Swindlers and Snake Oil Salemen Liars Cheaters Fakes
Billy Graham Benny Hinn Jimmy Swaggart Pat Robertson Jack Van Impe Jerry Falwell Joel Olsteen Jim Bakker Joyce Meyer Robert Schuller Oral Roberts Leroy Jenkins Arnold Murry John Haggee Kenneth Copeland Dr.Gene Scott Charles Shifflet Tom Tewell etc.etc.etc. add you favorite fake preacher here ________________ they're all self elected and totaly fakes.
The reason that you IDIOTS refuse to see them as fakes is because they tell you how wonderful you are and you're stupid enough to believe it, and then you give them money to tell you how wonderful you are and you're going to heaven, you're all totally INSANE. The people that wrote the bible were totally insane, that's the reason you believe the bible is because you too are totally INSANE!
Surely you are not suggesting that Billy Graham is a fake? You are talking about a man who has counseled presidents about God.
Are you saying that Billy doesn't know any more about God than, say Billy Carter or George bush?
The reverend Graham has spoken to millions of people about the lake of fire that awaits those who do not believe that Jesus was the "Son of God" ,who was born of a mortal virgin, impregnated by an angel (Some kind of surrogate arrangement) and then sacrificed to his heavenly father as payment for all of the sins committed by all of his other children.
Ben! You know in your heart that Billy Graham is anointed by God himself, to go around the world having huge crusades and collecting millions and millions of dollars for the very special "Billy Graham Ministries," so that his children can be comfortable as they go all over the world themselves, teaching the secret stuff, that only someone of Reverend Graham's stature has been blessed with, and has passed down to his children.
I do know that I see on television every evening, commercials for a very special book written by his son that explains in detail, why it is so important to believe that Jesus was indeed exactly who he said he was, and other profound things, that only the son and heir to all the wonderful knowledge that God exclusively gave to Billy!
You can tell by the authoritative (Well, maybe not so authoritative anymore) southern drawl that Billy is the real thing. If he didn't know special stuff about God, he would not have been blessed with that good OLE southern charm.
What I'm getting at Ben, is that millions of good hardworking salt of the earth believers in Christ, think Billy is just one little notch below Jesus himself, so it must be true!
Dan (A Yankee, living in Baptist Land (NC)
Remember Shifflett is working for god, he can do Nowrong!
I can't wait to hear about his trial tomorrow. 1 more day. I hope they find him guilty. I hope that everything come out to the whole world. Some of these people that are to be witnesses know the truth and I hope that it all comes out. I know of 1 person that he has had his affairs with also, and I am pretty sure of others. Maybe when it comes out their husbands will open their eyes too.
Like someone else said if it was my child that shifflett did this too there would not need to be a trial...I agree with you.
Down to hours now....we shall see.
BE SURE YOUR SINS WILL FIND YOU OUT!!!!! ALL OF YOU! this could get even more interesting.
Man what a great job this man has done, look at how many souls he's kept out of Hell.
Boy we sure need more preachers like ole Shifflett, he's been sending souls to Heaven left and right for all these years.
I wonder how many souls Billy Graham has sent to Heaven, and Benny Hinn, and Pat Roberstson and Jerky Fartwell, etc. man, when we all get to Heaven, we'll get to be with all those great preachers, what a stinking thrill.
Liz Mitchell
Staff Writer
Thursday, June 15, 2006
Commonwealth’s Attorney Gary Close says he is playing hardball in the case of Charles Shifflett, the First Baptist Church of Culpeper pastor who is facing charges of physical and sexual abuse against children.
While Shifflett’s lawyer, Samuel Higginbotham, waived his client’s right to a preliminary hearing in Juvenile and Domestic Relations Court Wednesday, Close said the case would have never been heard at that level anyway.
“We were playing hardball with them,” Close said. “They agreed to waive, so they didn’t have to pay more bond. We were not going to have a preliminary hearing. That is a trial tactic and we felt it made our case stronger.”
The pastor attended his scheduled preliminary hearing to finalize paperwork with his lawyer.
Dressed in a suit and tie, Shifflett stood before Judge Frank W. Somerville and was pleasant with passersby in the courthouse hallway.
While he did not make any comments on his case, he did say, “I’d rather be in church.”
Court process
If the defense did not waive its right to the hearing, Close said he would have directly indicted all charges to the grand jury that meets Monday.
If the grand jury decides there is enough evidence to try the case, it would be heard in Circuit Court at a later date.
The strategy behind a direct indictment is to keep victims from having to testify more than once, Close said.
“To try it one time,” Close said. “And not build in any artificial traps for them, which is what a preliminary hearing would do.”
But if the defense did not waive its right and the grand jury issued indictments on his charges, Shifflett would have had to go through an arrest and bond process again.
Background
Shifflett, 54, faces six charges for cruelty and injury to children and indecent liberties with children.
Originally he was facing eight charges but the commonwealth dropped three of those in juvenile court Wednesday.
Five of the charges stem from the original investigation and citizen-obtained warrants. But the sixth charge, related to cruelty and injury to children, is a new charge that will be directly indicted to the grand jury, according to Assistant Commonwealth’s Attorney Tom Smith. If indicted on the new charge, Close said Shifflett would be subject to another arrest and bond hearing.
Jimmy Rudd, the father of one of the alleged victims, was the only other person who attended the scheduled hearing outside of lawyers, investigators and members of the media.
Rudd, 37, organized a support rally for victims of child abuse in April. Since the Shifflett investigation began in October, Rudd has had plans to organize a child abuse prevention campaign, which is in the works, he said.
“I’ll be so glad when all of this is over,” Rudd said. “I wanted to see him face to face. Justice will be served.”
Shifflett is scheduled to appear in court Monday at 9:30 a.m.
Liz Mitchell can be reached at 825-0771 ext. 110 or emitchell@starexponent.com.
At a glance
What we knew: Shifflett was facing eight charges related to physical and sexual abuse against
children for incidents that occurred nearly 20 years ago at Calvary Baptist Church. He is also being investigated for allegations of embezzlement.
What he’s facing: Shifflett, now the pastor of First Baptist Church of Culpeper, is now facing six charges related to cruelty and injury to children and indecent liberties with children.
The latest: Shifflett waived his preliminary
hearing and the case will move to a grand jury Monday
You all have gladly voluntarly and willingly have accepted the book of lies as the truth and now you look at Shifflett as being any different than any other person that has self-elected himself to be called from a make believe god.
What MAN? can represent a holy creator god?
What MAN? can hold himself worthy to speak for an invisible supreme creator?
What MAN? can honestly say that the knows what a god is thinking?
What MAN? can say that he knows the word of god when it been translated over 1600 times and been embellished and doctored and filtered and things withheld and mistranslated and misunderstood.
What MAN? can pretend that he knows more about an invisible god than anyone else?
What MAN? can know more than is known than anyone else, that is not of this Earth?
What MAN? can say honestly he has a connection to supreme knowledge?
Why don't you all admit that you've been "had" taken to the cleaners, brainwashed, duped, tricked, stumped?
Why are you all so afraid of the truth, you'll run around in circles, and jump through mental gymnasyics to justify and make excuses for your own silly ignorance.
For some reason, based out of fear, you christians are so afraid to see the truth, that you've all been taken by your time and your money and your brains ability to think and to reason have been stolen away from you, stolen taken away from you!
Billy Graham? What is he? Nothing, just a MAN, that's all, nothing more.
Name any preacher! What is he? A MAN, nothing more!
A preacher is a MAN with lips and he makes noises, the noises that you want to hear, the noises that you are willing to give up your own ability to think and reason, for those noises.
You even give those preachers your money to make those noses that you want to hear, can't you all see how insane that is?
A preacher is a souped up MONKEY making noises that you scared MONKEYS want to hear.
Then you say that you are Happy in a Lie(jesus), then you will say Pray For More Lies.
You christians are wallowing around in a lie, like home made biscuits, you are rolling yourselves around like dough in flour and the flour is the lie that you all desire to be true, and then in the final product you're eaten alive and now you just can't believe anyone would try to deceive you, no, not you, you could not possibly be deceived, no way.
No christians could never be lied to, by a preacher, no way!
A preacher never lies and never commits crimes, no never no way!
A preacher is the official mouth piece directly from god.
Preachers are perfect!
Preachers represent god directly!
Preachers have wisdom sent to the from god!
Preachers know all there is to be known by mankind sent directly from god.
Preachers saves souls for god to collect!
Without preachers, the world is doomed!
All preachers are liars, con-artists, tricksters, fools, sleeze bags, theives, robbers, scum, evil, trash, but you cannot see it.
from the Star Exponent
As a child, Robert Hammonds yearned for acceptance at Calvary Baptist Academy.
But the constant physical and mental abuse he says he experienced prompted him to leave the K-12 private school in eighth grade.
Now, at 27, Hammonds has been identified as a new victim in the ongoing case against Charles Shifflett, the pastor at First Baptist Church of Culpeper who resigned from Calvary in November.
On Monday, a grand jury indicted Shifflett on seven charges of physical and sexual abuse against children for incidents that occurred at his former church nearly 20 years ago.
Two of the charges of cruelty and injury to children are new; the commonwealth directly indicted these charges to the grand jury in connection with an ongoing investigation by the Culpeper County Sheriff’s Office.
According to court records, Hammonds is the victim of one of the new charges. The other is Culpeper resident Chad Robison, 29, who was the first person to come forward in the case. The commonwealth said the new charge involving Robison is sexual in nature but is considered “tormenting” a child because it cannot be proven that Shifflett had lascivious intent.
Shifflett, 54, faces three other counts of cruelty and injury to children and two counts of indecent liberties with children. He is scheduled to be arraigned in Circuit Court Aug. 22, and a date for a trial will be set that day.
As of Tuesday evening, he had not been arrested on the new charges. The Sheriff’s Office could not confirm what the new charge in relation to Hammonds entailed, stating it had yet to receive the paperwork. And the commonwealth’s attorney is on vacation.
But last week, the Star-Exponent obtained an interview with Hammonds, who has been incarcerated for the past 10 years at the Lawrenceville Correctional Center on charges of malicious wounding and robbery.
It was 1995 when a judge sentenced Hammonds, 16, to hard time for a crime that took place in Culpeper. A few years before, Hammonds told the Star-Exponent from a prison telephone, he was one of Shifflett’s many young victims.
Robert Hammonds’ story
Hammonds said when he attended Calvary Baptist Academy as a middle schooler in the early 1990s he was the only black student and constantly referred to in derogatory terms.
“I didn’t enjoy my time there because, as you expect, there was a lot of abuse going on at that school,” Hammonds said. “Physical abuse and, more than anything, mental abuse.”
Hammonds said he started attending Calvary Baptist Church with his mother at the age of 6. When the opportunity came to join the school - Hammonds can’t remember exactly what years he attended - he accepted because it was free tuition and he was hoping to fit in with the other children.
“Looking back at it, I never was accepted as a part of them,” Hammonds said. “And then, one night, I was shot at. Charles Shifflett came to me one day and told me that if he caught me talking to the white girls again that he would kill me. After church service, he was walking across the parking lot. Someone shot at me as I walked by the truck.”
Hammonds said he does not think Shifflett shot at him then.
However, Hammonds said he was shot at a second time when he and other boys were forced to cut down trees, which were then sold to pay for teachers’ salaries.
“He shot a hat off my head,” Hammonds said of Shifflett. “There is an area we would go and cut up wood. I was walking up there and he shot the hat off my head. … He told me to get up the hill. The guys, they went up the hill in a truck but he made me walk. I wasn’t moving up the hill fast enough so he shot the hat off my head.”
Hammonds said there were some witnesses to the incident but everyone laughed it off out of fear or toleration.
“You kind of dismissed it as guys being guys,” he said, “but no responsible man does that to children.”
Hammonds said boys were not only abused with corporal punishment but they were forced to pick up horse manure with their bare hands and threatened daily with verbal comments from Shifflett and other churchmen.
Hammonds said as the sole black student there, he felt he was treated as a slave when Shifflett forced him, and not other students, to do chores.
Shifflett has repeatedly denied requests for interviews regarding his case, saying he will not discuss the accusations until after his trial.
“He would make me tow bricks, tow logs - and I still have injuries from toting those logs - drive a tractor, which I could not drive, pick up horse manure,” Hammonds said. “I would clean all the time, just like I was a slave and nobody was doing it with me. He had a pony or baby horse and he pushed the horse in the face and made it kick me. I suffered injuries but I just sucked it up.”
On one occasion, Hammonds said, Shifflett and others were in a truck and chased him through a field until they hit him.
“I just laid down on the ground, hit the bed of the truck and rolled; and I wanted to pretend I was dead just in case they tried to do it again,” Hammonds said. “They started to get worried that I was dead. They took me to the restaurant and gave me something to eat.”
An early father figure
Growing up, Hammonds was one of eight children raised by a single mom. Since he did not have a father, Hammonds said he initially looked up to Shifflett as an example.
But as time went on, he changed his opinion of his pastor.
When he couldn’t take any more, he left the church and did not involve his parents or other adults in what he says he witnessed and experienced.
“I never really considered getting anyone else involved because I always felt like I was a loner,” Hammonds said. “As an adolescent, you think things are funny. I thought things were funny but as it went on I thought, maybe this is not a joke.
And when they start to become reality, I started to see this man really did see me as a nigger, as a slave, as something to use.”
As a student at Calvary’s school, Hammonds said he learned his limits, which prepared him for prison.
He gets out in three months if he stays on good behavior.
For the past 10 years, he said, he’s learned how to articulate his feelings and avoid expressing himself in a physical way.
While he’s not certain of his future, he says he is looking forward to being a productive and responsible citizen.
I just don't understand how come Charles Shifflett is still out walking the streets and so called "preaching." I pray that he is not still hurting any more innocent children. WAKE UP PEOPLE OF FIRST BAPTIST YOU PREACHER IS A CHILD ABUSER AND A MOLESTER. SAVE YOUR CHILDREN!!!
Aug.22 will only set the trial date so it will be a while before it is all over and for some I'm sure it will never end.
As I reread the letters I wonder where those 100%ers are?
God is a just and caring and loving god, just ask the 6 million Jews he let Hitler kill.
God loves everybody!
God loves the sinner, but hates the sin!
God will take care of everything!
God will search his heart and forgive him!
Just ask jesus to forgive you!
Jesus saves!
What a bunch of idiots!
You say you love jesus, but you're just saying such nonsense with your mouth, which means absolutely nothing.
You have no idea what jesus is or was, you just think you love an imaginary myth.
Jesus was a myth converted into a grandiose lie and cover up.
You say that you love the myth concept of jesus, but you really do not know nothing in truth about a jesus.
You love a myth called jesus, you have no real idea about whom jesus was.
Jesus was mainly a negroid, now would you love a negroid as much as you pretend that you do? No!
Yes we invite all you victims back to come worship our imaginary god and new preacher with us. Maybe just maybe our new preacher will be kind enough to wait 6 months before he divides to start molesting the congregation, although I doubt it.
This time we'll be sure to get a REAL christian preacher this time, hopefully he's not a homosexual, but who knows, only god can search his heart.
We all just need to pray harder this time, so we will be sure to get a Real man o god.
Nothing fails like prayer, preachers and christianity and god.
What REAL idiots!
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From my own personal experiences and seeing what this man has done to Chad, Liz, Woody, and Robert...I know that he is guilty and the grand jury thinks that there is enough evidence to have a trial. So wake up people...your children or grandchildren could be victims, and you are too blind to see it. OPEN YOUR EYES.
I live near Charlotte, NC, I came through the old run down PTL Club, just to look at the billions spent and waisted there, and there were people in campers and tents waiting, for their messiah, Jim Bakker to get out of prison and save them, he had been in prison for over 5 years.
Look at the Jim Jones, David Karesh, Jimmy Sawggart, Benny Hinn, Tom Tewell, Billy Graham, Jerry Fatass, Pat Roberson, Kenneth Copeland, Arnold Murry, Joyce Myer, etc etc etc etc.
What man or woman can represent an imaginary god?
Can they walk on water? Can they raise the dead? Can they perform miracles? Can they collect and keep all your money?
What makes you all think that someone is called by a god?
The Bible says all have sinned, and all fall short of the glory of god.
Yet you insist that there is one among you worthy to represent an invisible God!
Why are you people insane?
Next time just pass the koolade during communion!
Cume bye ya my friends, Cume bye ya! Lets just forget about all the crimes and sins against nature that preachers do, because they are people too, they can't help it if they are called by God Special, it's not their fault, they were just minding their own business, when all of the sudden, out of millions and millions God rose up and called Shitlist to preach, he didn't want to be a preacher, but God called him anyway and there were so many souls to be saved, and so many children to molest and so much money to be made. Judge not lest ye be judged, you would do the same thing if you had access to little children too. Besides Shitlist can run back to jesus and get saved and instant forgiveness, jesus is just sitting around waiting for us all to sin and commit heinous crimes and sins, just so he can forgive us
poor ignorant sinners. Do not forget that jesus loves you, he hates the sin, but jesus loves you.
Jesus forgives all sins and loves to forgive us of our filthy sins, jesus can and will forgive us of any crime or sin, the bigger the crime, the greater the forgivenes.
So if you really want jesus to forgive you big time, just commit a huge crime, no crime or sin is too big for jesus to forgive.
Cume bye ya my friends, cume bye ya!
Remember folks, keep those crimes and sins comming, jesus is just waiting to forgive you, he has nothing else to do!
I think that there are others still out there is this case that have stayed away and don't want to face what happen to them.
But we can still prevent this from happening to others, but people are afraid to stand agains Shifflett. I know that he has somethings he knows about others and that is why they are still behind him. They don't want anything to come out about them...maybe affairs????? or whatever. They apparently don't realize that the only people they are hurting are their children or grandchildren.
You don't have to worry about me ever stepping one single toe nail around Shifflett or his so called church or any events that he has to raise more bail money. Tom Reese has got to run out sooner or later.
Has anyone heard anything about the 11th yet?
My heart felt sorrow for each and every victim...even those of us from 35 years ago.
The bus is parked in front of his circus tint at the skating rink. You can't miss it.
I was there too.
http://www.jeriwho.net/lillypad2/blogger.htm
Look on the left side as you scroll down. She has them in a short list. Right click each one to download and save. They're each about 15 MB long.
I was there too. "
Here is a hint as to who I am... the church statred in the basement of my aunt & uncle. This uncle is also Janet's older brother.
Now it's your turn.
was your last name the same as Janets maiden name? I use to be on the same bus route with Chuck. I am 46 and have 5 letters in my first name and 9 in my last. I still live in Charles County...."your turn!"
My last name wasn't Pipes.
(I'm blood-related to Claude's wife, Audrey.)
I'm 51 and my first name is actually two names.
I was always considered to be a "bad" kid. Chuck called me a "hippie"....Meaning that I had a mind of my own and I used it. I expressed my own thoughts and opinions and didn't blindly agree with what ever Chuck or anyone said.
any guesses?
Now your next hints.
Joe Curtis
The whole problem is you're all trying to make a myth become true, you're all trying to believe a lie.
A lie will always be a lie, a myth will always be a myth.
So you all pay a preacher tell you what you want to hear, and if he does not tell you what you want to hear, you'll get rid of him and get another, I've seen this done so many times.
If you don't believe the Bible, fine. But what these apes are doing has nothing to do with what the Bible actually teaches.
Every pastor is a sinner and every Christian in the pew is a sinner. We rejoice and have every reason to be humble because a great mercy has been given to us.
These proud deceivers lead people astray through pride. But your declaration that ever preachers pulls crap like what SHifflett has pulled is as stupid as any sweeping statement is stupid. There are pastors who faithfully represent what Christ has done for them. But you won't find them proclaimionghow godly they are.
If you want to find a good preacher, find one who proclaims Jesus Christ our righteousness. And yes, you will have took for a long time and with great scrutiny, but you will find a few.
How can a person do the Lord's work in church led by a power-mad, abusive, Bible-defying, self-glorifying apostate? If people want to do the Lord's work for the Lord's sake, then they need to get out of Shifflet's evil and counterfeit church and go to a Biblically obedient church that glorifies Christ and not a man (or men).
I'd be as polite as possible if such people came knocking on my door, but I would make it clear to them that they are NOT glorifying God by keeping that apostate man in the pulpit. He needs to be put out of the pulpit, put out of the church, and excommunicated from Christian fellowship.
As for the Ripley church, I had understood that the man who had been pastor there had always kept Chuck in check. I thought it wasn't until he got to Culpeper that Shifflett found a place where he could cut loose.
There is a fundamentalist named Damon Medeiros who has been hassling the victims of former Pastor Bob Gray on the FFF. He uses his screen name of PappaBear. A forum member asked me to help and ID'd him for me. I verified it, and I identified him on my blog.
Yesterday I tried to go to my own site,and all I got was my provider's login. And it would not let me log in (Pow Web).
So I rang them up and asked what was wrong. The first girl I talked to was polite. She told me that they had received a letter from Damon Medeiros complaining about me, and I had violated their terms of service. I told her I had identified him, I had not slandered him.
She was still polite, and she told me that he had been threatened. So then I asked her to view my site if she could. And I told her I document church abuse cases, and this man, under his screen name of PappaBear, had been hassling alleged church abuse victims. I said I doubted that anybody had threatened him. I told her that if I took down that post, that he would be free, once again, to harass victims anonymously.
I asked if I could take my appeal up the line from her. She agreed at once. I was put on hold for a long time, and then she said a Supervisor would call me as soon as possible.
So I hung up, but I saw that my web pages were already all restored. Then within an hour "Michelle" called me, and she told me that Pow Web had received a letter from Damon Medeiros alleging that I was running a scam site, a web scam. She didn't say anything about him being threatened.
I really got mad (at him, not her) but I asked her to look at the site and see for herself that it's not a web scam. She told me she could see that and the site would not be turned off again, but she had to forward the matter to their Business Operations level, and I would probably hear from them within a few days. She told me the site never should have been turned off, and my posting of Damon Medeiros' name is considered "a third party matter" that Pow Web does not interfere with.
So the site is safe, at least for now. I didn't want to crow about this on my blog because Damon is a persuasive communicator. I don't want more trouble for throwing his name around there. But I did want to make it public.
Jeri
If God is so perfect, how could he have made such a big mistake as to call Chuck Shifflett?
A perfect God cannot make mistakes, remember?
And then He was crucified by the religious leaders of His day. Christianity does not teach that life is grand if you have faith in God and love your fellow man. It teaches that you get crucified for stuff like that. The world is full of religious fakes, and the fakes will kill you if they get a chance.
Remember the old "Take up your cross and follow me" refrains? He wasn't saying you are bearing your cross to go build a raft. You are bearing your cross to go be crucified.
I liked Pastor Flowers.
I spent my teen years there too and had a good time. Made friends that I still have. As far as Chuck goes sounds like something change after I left or maybe I just didn't see it. Whatever I liked my teen years!
Janet's best friend--did her name start with "J"?
Think I know who you are talking about.
I pray that Charles Shifflett is punished to the full extent of the law and that Tom Reese won't be able to get him out again. As for the person who said that they think that Charles Shifflett has something on Tom Reese I totally agree with you. I think that he has something on a lot of people and when he goes down he will pull them right along with him.
As for Chad Liz Woody and Robert thank you for coming forward and letting the world know about Charles Shifflett. This could save some of the children of the future. Thank you Jerri for doing your interviews and putting it out for the public to hear.
Praying for justice for all of the victims even the ones that didn't come forward.
Again, for new visitors, the URL for the main page for LAMBS OF CULPEPER is this:
http://www.jeriwho.net/lambs/lambs.htm
I'll try it in HTML text to see if I can create an interactive link:
LAMBS OF CULPEPER
The series is in five parts, and there is a version for high-speed and one for dial up. There is also a link to purchase LAMBS on CD, for anybody who wants to pass it around. But it is free to download for yourself.
Whether Brenda Jenkins is having an affair with Preacher or not, she's embracing a falsehood and turning her back on inocent victims. She is not a good Christian lady. She loves and believes a lie, as does Mary, the mother of woody and liz. I hope they never escape their public shame until they repent of their hard heartedness.
I think you're wrong (or at least incoherent). We need to confront the allegations, gather the evidence, and make sure that bad sheriff and idiotic Commonwealth Attorney don't let this case come to nothing. God expects us to act on behalf of what is right,not sit back like a bunch of rocks and "let god's work run its course". God commands that His people intervene against evil and take action on behalf what is right.
You are telling a bunch of crap. How is it that your oldest sister is dating Mrs. Jenkins' brother?? HMM tell me that? When they are both married? You are making this up and you are talkin about stuff that you don't even know about ,so, I say it's best you keep your mouth shut from now on.THANKS!!! and just to let you know I and whoever else, can say what we want about Shifflet and there isnt a thing you can do about it. Your just as Looney as the people that follow him. I'll be praying for you cause ,honey, you need all the help you can get!!!!
You are telling a bunch of crap. How is it that your oldest sister is dating Mrs. Jenkins' brother?? HMM tell me that? When they are both married?<<<
Well, that never stopped Shifflett....
Christianity has become weak and indifferent. And if you are saying your church is no longer that way, then go find those victims and minister grace and mercy to them. The blessing of God is not just in feeling free and easy; otherwise anaesthetic is the blessing of God. The blessing of God is the power and knowledge to live out Christ among men.
I was raised at Ripley Community Church. This church actually started in the basement of my Aunt and Uncle. (Janet (Pipes), Chuck’s wife, is a sister of my uncle.) Chuck was the Asst. Pastor when I was a teenager. And my personal opinion of him at that time (as it is today) is that he was an ignorant, pompous ass given to bulling and manipulating others to feel good bout himself. As I remember it, Chuck and I had a mutual loathing for each other. He hated the fact that I couldn’t be manipulated or bullied. I questioned his authority just because I got a kick out of making him angry. I wasn’t like the other poor teenagers who seemed so desperate for his approval that they would blindly believe anything he said. I left Ripley church years 30+ ago.
Gratefully, I have no connection with the case against Chuck Shifflett. I don’t have any connections with “Brenda J” or any other parties involved with Chuck or the case against him. I have the greatest heart felt sympathy for any of his victims. And I support them and their bravery. I have seen Chuck only once since I left Ripley Community and that was at my Aunt’s funeral in 2002. I had no conversation with him or Janet. To be honest I didn’t recognized him. Although I should have...he was wearing that same cheap suit and dumb big-gummed re-necked grin I so painfully remembered.
My interest in this case is based solely on my enjoyment of watching Chuck get what he deserves.
To those closely involved with the case I apologize for any confusion our guessing game has caused.
To my fellow game player, "IN THE LNOW", how brave are you now that you have guessed who I am? Are you brave to expose yourself and your connection with Chuck Shifflet? Do you support him now as you probably did back at Ripley? You don't have to be afraid of him now.
I am…Betty Lou Hamilton Mudd.
The Bible specifically commands that Christians assemble together and congregate in orderly and lawful fashion. The key is not to disobey because the risks are too great, but to confront evil with knowledge and expel it from church office.
American Christians hate this idea. It seems undoable to them, but it is what the Bible teaches: we must practice what the Bible teaches, not only at home, but also in church.
And that means we must hold men accountable for what they teach when they teach error, and we must take seriously any charges brought against an elder for unruly conduct or shameful behavior.
If the Christians at Calvary had been serious about obeying God (instead of all that total loyalty crap to their "preacher") they would have shown Shifflett to the sidewalk in the first year of his abuses.
The answer is not to retreat further, especially now that we all know there have been victims of the most perverted sins. The answer is to know your Bible well enough so that when hucksters like Shifflett ascend the pulpit, you see him for the loathesom, apetite-driven spore that he is. And you do something about it.
And the answer is to act as a church to reach out to the victims. The church does owe that to those young people.
Did the members of Calvary attend the anti-child abuse rally? That's funny, there were only about 10 people who showed up.
Will the members of Calvary be at court next week to support the victims? Is there public prayer offered on their behalf?
Have the members phoned the victims to tell them they are concerned and are praying? Have the members offered to babysit during the court appearances? have they offered to bring food or help out while the victims are going through this grueling ordeal?
What, exactly, has the church done to reach out to the victims and care for them? Here's a hint, feelign bad, saying, "what a shame!" and boasting of God's blessings onthe church are NOT ways of helping the victims.
Betty Lou Hamilton asked you to identify yourself and YOUR connection to Shifflett. Are you going to play fair???
Twenty-five is a small representation. Once upon a time you'd pack into the church for hours to get a pat on the head from a man who turned out to be a monster. You could turn out for an hour on Tuesday morning to vindicate the righteousness and mercy of God.
If time is so short, cancel prayer meeting next week and go to the arraignment instead. You can pray together with sorrow for your errors and publically profess your hope in God before the session convenes. If you do that, you'll be a better example next Tuesday of what a church is than you ever have been before.
Guess what Shelly? They are all frauds, not one person is called by a god to preach, you've been fooled and deceived, so good luck in finding a true man of god, because there is no such thing!!! duh!!!!
Of course there are good men in the ministry who work sincerely and with profound faith. And yes, you can judge him by matching his actions against his speech. Shifflett's followers call his victims trash. Shifflett himself abandoned his pulpit rather than face a lawful inquiry from the leadership of his church. He has counter-accused the victims, thus violating the Scripture that commands that an elder be meek and not rail against others.
It doesn't matter if Shifflett brings Bonzo the gorilla into his church and declares him saved. Shifflett has openly and flagrantly disobeyed the Scripture. He is the best evidence that the alleged victims are telling the truth. And the people who follow him are simply witless and ignorant, not knowing the Scripture, trusting in short hair, dresses, and the "right music" for righteousness instead of the atoning work of Christ.
They are so ignorant, they don't see how ignorant they are; and their hard hearted, cultish wickedness is an open display of how empty and idolatrous Shifflet's teachings are.
The URL for the main page for LAMBS OF CULPEPER is this:
http://www.jeriwho.net/lambs/lambs.htm
I'll try it in HTML text to see if I can create an interactive link:
LAMBS OF CULPEPER
The series is in five parts, and there is a version for high-speed and one for dial up. There is also a link to purchase LAMBS on CD, for anybody who wants to pass it around. But it is free to download for yourself.
I just mailed extra copies to Chad, Woody, Liz, and Archie Seale. So if you know any of these people, you might be able to borrow a CD of the documentary to listen to.
If someone I loved and trusted was accused of doing such terrible things and I knew it was not true; I'd be proclaiming their innocence to anyone who would listen.
I think that he thought that he could pick on me, because he knew that I could care less about him and I wasn't going to let the things that he said to me stop me from living my life. I stood up to him and told him how I felt. The only reason I was there is because I had to be. The first chance I got I was gone. I think I have been back to Calvary once or twice since I left in 1995. It still was the same and the people were still the same. I have not been back since Charles left and started his circus. I cannot believe that these people followed him and are still listening to him preach old Jack Hyles sermons. Do you know how safe your children are. How do you know that he is not doing the same thing to them. What is wrong with you people. Wake up and keep your children safe. I would think that social services would have stepped in by now. You people that follow him are crazy. Maybe you have something to hide, or maybe you are just so caught up in his cult, but remember this...if you have something to hide, be sure that it will come out in the trial. Becuase if Charles Shifflett is going down, besure that you will too.
You must not have went to school when Chad, Liz, Woody, and Robert did...or you are still stuck in Chuck cult. You cannot say anything about how long it has taken them to come forward with what happen to them unless it has ever happened to you. Have you ever been molested or beaten by someone you are supposed to trust and love and count on to help you with your problems only for them to make it worse. If not then you can't say anything. I can, I have been there. It has taken me many years to come out with my secret and you know what it is still very hard to deal with 20+ years later. As a child you just don't know what to do when something like this has happened to you.
I would think twice before you judge the victims and call them trailer trash....I do believe that he has a daughter that has cheated on her husband and lives in a trailer....and a daughter that has a husband that is nothing but a cheating drug dealing pervert...Need I say more about Trailer trash. I know this out of fact.... I also know the victims and know that they are very good people and would never lie about this. I know that there is proof of these allegations...you apparently have something going on with Chuck Shifflett. He knew that one day all of this would come out so he needed people like you close to him to back him up and support him.
Just remember you just might be the one shocked about what might come out in the trial.
None!!!
There is none! No human can speak for or represent an invisible god!!!
Why have you all allowed yourselves to believe such nonsense???
"Donald, if you just look around you and listen, God is everywhere."
No. Donald is right. "God" is in books and in your head, but nowhere else. Sure, "God" absolutely exists AS a concept---but so do leprechans, imps, and goblins. All religious belief concerning a "supernatural" being is based purely on subjective bias.(see the writer's examples below for some classic examples of the "lookist" argument for God)
Fundanonymous: "A beautiful sunset.."
Ahh, nothing soothes the soul like a beautiful tornado.
Fundanonymous: "the silver lining on the edge of the clouds.."
The black lining around a cancer cell.
Fundanonymous: "the sounds of water rushing over rocks.."
The sound of a tsunami rushing over people.
Fundanonymous: "the sounds of birds chirping"
The sound of dogs barking(at 3:00 in the morning)
Fundanonymous: "the cry of a baby in the night"
The cry in the night of a mother whose baby died from SIDS.
Fundanonymous: "the whisper of 'I love you' from a loved one."
The whisper of "If you leave me, I'll kill you" from a psycho one.
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We see that the "lookist argument for the existance of God", fails. Why?... because as usual, the apologist wants to have things BOTH ways. Objectively speaking---God is either responsible for everything, or God is responsible nothing. If my counter-points are not evidence for the NON-existance of God, then by the SAME logic and consideration, the above lookist/believer's arguments are not evidence FOR the existance of a God.
Fundanonymous finishes with: "God gives you the choice to believe in Him or not."
The robber who has a 44 magnum pressed up against your temple gives you a "choice" to give up your Rolex, or not.
It's called coersion, not a "choice".
Well then who bequeathed absolute truth to you and told you to proclaim it? Or are you the source of all truth, sef-ordained to enlighten others?
As for the fundamentalist nonsense posted here: all of this has come about from evil men following MEN. First, these guys don't even know what the Bible teaches because they don't actually read it. They just like to wave it around while somebody tells them what the Bible says. They are "hucks" waiting for the huckster.
The Bible does NOT say to give 100% loyalty to a preacher. It does NOT say to beat adolescent or pre-adolescent children. It does NOT say that if you love God and do right then everything will go your way. It does NOT say that preachers are "God's men" and nobody else is.
In fact, it says things quite to the contrary of all these fundamentalist pillars of belief.
The first thing you have to do with a Christian Fundamentalist is teach him or her to really read the Bible. Fundamentalists actually believe a mixture of pop psychology, neo-Puritan morality, "Americana history" (as opposed to American history) that harks back to a version of this country that never actually existed, and Dale Carnegie inspirational mottos.
I went to the school there and I can say I was never more happy to get out and when I did I never went back. I have been to a couple of churches since then and I just can't stay. I am not comfortable and I don't trust anyone.
Like someone else said I think the reason all this taken so long to come out is becuase these victims are looking at their own children and saying..if something like this ever happened to my kids....Everyone should be proud of the victims that are coming forward now no matter how long it has taken. You need to realize how hard it is for them, and yes they are going through alot, and they need everyones support. If some of you were as strong as they are and as brave as they are you wouldn't still be part of Chuck Shifflett's cult. You would be doing everything you can to stop him. I just pray that he spends a long time in the only place that is good for him and that is BEHIND BARS!!! Maybe he will get a taste of his own medicine there.
How is the belief that all order and complexity came from nothing BY ACCIDENT a choice for reason over superstition. It's an insane and lunatic belief. At least Christians can point to some evidence of their God: eyewitness accounts, changed lives, a few truly saintly people (Mother Teresa comes to mind). But we never have seen an accident create order from chaos (or from nothing). Atheists have no firm root in reason. Their atheism is, in itself, chaotic and impossible.
And lightning bolts are arrows shot from the bow of GOD!
And anything TOO HARD for me to understand is STUPID! In fact, I KNOW that GOD is real because I CAN FEEL HIM, you LUNATIC!
Bleah...
Since neither one of us were there AT the begining, it would be a moot point to speculate, wouldn't it? Right. No one knows with absolute certainty, because no one was there---but the difference is that you posit a "God" as a default "explanation", in lieu of not having the absolute knowledge. Doing this only begs more questions than it answers.
I'm okay with saying "I don't know" who, or what, caused the first cause(if there even was one). If the first cause always existed, then maybe the universe always existed. But let's deal with what we DO know: What we DO know, is that humans come from other humans...not "dust". Female humans don't come from a "ribs". In fact, we don't see any SPECIES of any animal spontaneously generate. We don't see trees and other fawna spontaneously generate. We know that the world is round, not flat; we know that snakes and vegetation don't speak the human language; we know that the sky is not held up by a firmament; we know that rivers aren't made out of blood; we know that hammers don't swim. In other words, you get your "explanation" for the first cause from the very same source of all this other erroneous information.
Anony--the only absolute "truth", is that the universe is NOT static; it's ever-changing. Conversely, religious convictions ARE static. It's "truths" are not subject to change("God's ways are unchanging")..yet, we see that the bible is full of misinformation. By reason, this would lead me to believe that it was hardly inspired by an "Omniscient" being.....and much more likely, man.
Anon finished with: "Atheists have no firm root in reason. Their atheism is, in itself, chaotic and impossible."
Lol! Like I said above, consider the source.
Okay, let the bickering over Culpeper resume. YaaY!
Why don't you each just allow the other to believe what they want.
Why do you care? What does it matter to you if someone believes in a God or not? We each have our own truths!
Live and Let Live
The belief in a god has done nothing but make it easier to sacrifice our only life for a fantasy afterlife. It separates people into groups and makes it easier to generally disregard, subjugate, or exterminate those other groups because they are all going to hell anyway.
God is a place marker for the unexplained and it’s bloody not good enough. To contemplate god is to contemplate the next life and not this one. We do not need to hash out god. We need to hash out what value we can place on this life so we can stop killing each other over the next.
Oh, stuff and nonsense. You're merely using modern jingoistic nonsense to discredit the accumulation contemplation and conclusins ofo civilizations that endured for centuries.
You accuse us of buyingn into nonsense, but look at the nonsense you buy into! You really think that because you own a lot of stuff, living in the present, and have lots of nifty gadgets that somehow you are smarter or wiser or more profoundly attunbed ot what existence is than people who owned very little, lived a simple life, and made their tools by hand?
You're a snob, that's all, a shallow person who assumes that whatever we come up with today has to be smarter or better than previous generations.
Well bollocks! Language itself, in its most ancient form, was far mroe complex in structure than modern language and was used veru much for discussing the invisible world, the supernatural, and the meaning for existence.
You can throw away the heritage of being a human being if you like, but it does no make you smarter or wiser. It merely makes you modern and ignorant of your past.
Shannon also wrote: "God is a place marker for the unexplained and it’s bloody not good enough. To contemplate god is to contemplate the next life and not this one. We do not need to hash out god. We need to hash out what value we can place on this life so we can stop killing each other over the next. "
Bollocks again. Don't you know that "Emmanuel" means "God with us"? One goal of religion is to make this life sensible and meaningful, in this present moment. Have you never read Victor Frankle's MAN'S SEARCH FOR MEANING. He tied belief in God, in absolutes of rightness, in mercy and compassion directly to survival in the Nazi prison camps. People who have faith have meaningful lives. That was his discovery. People who find suffering to be a purposeful thing leading them to a conclusion, purpose, or point contributed to the life in the camps in a meaningful way and conquered the evil of their oppressors.
You are merely an undereducated person blinded by the neon of this present again. Mother Teresa, Amy Carmichael Diedreich Bonhoeffer were all people who undertook poverty and/or suffering for thier faith and made life meaningful, even in desperate circumstances.
Stop reciting blind propaganda for a tv generation and go see what those goat herders discovered in the cycle of life and death and in the course of their own suffering.
You'll be a less stupid person for it.
ME: (mocking atheism) And anything TOO HARD for me to understand is STUPID! In fact, I KNOW that GOD is NOT real because I CANNOT FEEL HIM, you LUNATIC!
Oh, you mean the way that the belief that the earth is flat has "endured for centuries"...? And the way that the belief that the earth is geocentric has "endured for centuries"...? And what about talking vegetation?...is that a "conclusin" that we, as thinking adults in this day and age, can still believe?(the talking carrot on Lost in Space doesn't count)
Hawk said: "You really think that because you own a lot of stuff, living in the present, and have lots of nifty gadgets that somehow you are smarter or wiser or more profoundly attunbed ot what existence is than people who owned very little, lived a simple life, and made their tools by hand?"
Oh, I see. So the suggestion is that one is "arrogant" if they assert that humankind is intellectually superior to humankind who lived 2000, or more, years ago, right? Okay, great.... so then you won't have any problem disconnecting your electricity, phone, and cable...right? You won't mind walking to work, and taking a covered wagon and oxen on vacation, correct? Perfect. And then if you or someone in your family gets sick, you'll take them where?.....to a witch doctor, right? And of course, you won't mind hunting your dinner.(I hear the moose is excellent!)
Yeah, so if one doesn't revert back to this primitive style of living, then one is "arrogant" and "worldly". Yeah, got it.
Hawk said: "You're a snob, that's all, a shallow person who assumes that whatever we come up with today has to be smarter or better than previous generations."
Now, no one's saying that ALL Christians are arrogant ignorant morons...no, only that most arrogant ignorant people are religious. There's a difference. A subtle one, but a difference.
Hawk said: "Language itself, in its most ancient form, was far mroe complex in structure than modern language and was used veru much for discussing the invisible world, the supernatural, and the meaning for existence."
Welp, seeing as how you butcher the living sh*t out of the "simpler" language of English just pushing some buttons, it'd be interesting to see what you'd come up with writing cuneiform using a chicken leg and a stone tablet. Ouch! LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!And BTW, WHAT "invisible world"..?..? If it's "invisible", you CAN'T SEE IT!
Hawk asserted: "You can throw away the heritage of being a human being if you like, but it does no make you smarter or wiser. It merely makes you modern and ignorant of your past."
Welp, I wouldn't wanna have a "modern" principle deprive me of sex whenever I want it. So can I borrow your daughter for a night?...I need a sex-slave.
Hawk: "Don't you know that 'Emmanuel' means 'God with us'? "
Don't you know that "mythology" means "a person or thing having only an imaginery existance"?
Hawk said: "One goal of religion is to make this life sensible and meaningful, in this present moment. Have you never read Victor Frankle's MAN'S SEARCH FOR MEANING."
Have you ever read ONE single book---cover to cover---that OPPOSES WHAT YOU ALREADY BELIEVE? If not, try it. If so, than can I recommend the Book of Mormon, next?
Hawk asserted: "You are merely an undereducated person blinded by the neon of this present again. Mother Teresa, Amy Carmichael Diedreich Bonhoeffer were all people who undertook poverty and/or suffering for thier faith and made life meaningful, even in desperate circumstances."
Oh, I got it......so in order to have a perspective on the "meaning of life", I need go downtown and give a portion of my hard-earned money to some dude who chooses to live in a refrigerator box who smells like a wheel of gorgonzola cheese..and why? So he can buy cigarettes, crack, and beer. Perfect. Then, I should take whatever money's left over, and donate it to my local church so that pastor Leroy Browne can put 20 inch low-profile tires on his caddy. Unless I do this, I couldn't POSSIBLY have meaning in my life. 'Got it.
Hawk finishes with: "Stop reciting blind propaganda for a tv generation and go see what those goat herders discovered in the cycle of life and death and in the course of their own suffering.
You'll be a less stupid person for it."
Boy, you're a pillar of intelligence, Hawk. Won't you please stick around and enlighten us? Thanks pal.
Hawk here's a link for ya,
http://www.skeptic.com/the_magazine/featured_articles/v12n03_are_religious_societies_healthier.html
ME: (mocking atheism) And anything TOO HARD for me to understand is STUPID! In fact, I KNOW that GOD is NOT real because I CANNOT FEEL HIM, you LUNATIC!"
The "tit-for-tat" argument for God's existance:
1) Type tit-for-tat argument.
2) Say out-loud: "Neener-neener-neener!"
3) Think to yourself: "Boy, I showed him!"
4) Therefore, God exists.
You're welcome Shannon.
So tell me, do you also believe in Sasquatch, UFOs, and the Loch Ness Monster? Each of those imaginary myths lacks evidence of existing, but nonetheless some people feel these things exist. I wonder if you also feel these things exist.
Regardless, you are entitled to your fantasies, and if you feel compelled to follow sexually perverted leaders, and spout invective in support of your wonderful deity, far be it from me to deny you, even though this site's only purpose is to support those who have been freed from the illogic of Christianity. Said another way, this site wasn't made so that angry, offended Christians could mentally masturbate and smear their hot, angry ejaculate all over the screen. Yuck!
If you thought that last sentence was disgusting, try attending church in Culpepper! Now that's disgusting.
So, the only meaning that we have for this life is to a live in X amount of time in a completely subjective holy manner so that we can live forever in some heavenly plane to kiss the ass of the creator of all this? That’s meaningful?
Hawk said: “Oh, stuff and nonsense. You're merely using modern jingoistic nonsense to discredit the accumulation contemplation and conclusins ofo civilizations that endured for centuries.”
Dude, it endured because –why? What happened to people, for the last 1,500 years or so, who questioned the authority of the church? Hmmm?
I just cannot believe what is being said about Mrs. Jenkins. I know her family. She comes from a good family of Christian people. I have worked with her brothers through the years. My oldest sister is currently dating Mrs. Jenkins' brother and believe me that Mrs. Jenkins' family is a good, solid, nondeceiving family. I don't think they would do anything to hurt anyone. I wish you would get your facts straight before you write about Shifflett and Mrs. Jenkins!
8/05/2006 4:59 PM
Let me see now, this was a
earlier statement you made and I'm still trying to figure that one out then you come up with this new line of crap. So, it's your older sister that is having the affair with the brother that has the wife that works at walmart..Right? Still haven't figured out when you worked for her brothers, I don't recall seeing you up there working. What did you do there? Hmmmmm...I do recall them saying they did hire someone to eat sawdust and poop out the wood they needed, sounds like you could have been good for that one!
Who don't in culpeper that knows the brother know that his wife works at Walmart..DAh! I wonder why you stated before that they where a good christian family and now they are cheaters. my feelings on all this is that you are just full of it! You gotta keep track of what you write before to convince someone that you know what you're talking about. See, it's people like you that makes people question the truth when they don't know any difference. These charges against shifflett are gonna be the best thing to happen in Culpeper in a long time when he's convicted. What are you a pervert like Shifflett? You said you watched while he was having his affair with ms. Jenkins. Watching Shifflett doing his dirty deeds, Now that's sick! Your stories are filled with to many lies and your facts are nothing more than your Imagination running wild. I'll pray for you cause you must be just as messed up as Shifflett, believing what you say if it's said enough. You know if you would get off that CRACK for a while you might be able to keep your stories straight. Betty Brown... right ,right, and I'm the Easter Bunny. Get A LIFE!
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So Hawk you think that those who lived in a desert 2000 years ago were wiser than people living today, huh?
The next time you or someone you know gets sick, do not got to a doctor, because according to you, they do not know as much as those who lived over 2000 years ago.
You know what Hawk, you have to be the most ignorant poster that I have ever read on here.
The people two thousands years ago sit around at night burning camel shit, smoking opium and hash, they thought that the world was flat, that the Sun revolved over the Earth, that God and Jesus lived in the clouds above, they thought that the Heart was the center of all thought and emotion, why weren't they aware of the brain?
They also believed diseases were caused by demons. are you this stupid too Hawk? You are required to believe such nonsense too if you are to believe that the Bible is true.
I would not be calling anyone stupid on here after reading your post!!!
If you think that by owning modern conviences causes people to be stupid, I suggest you go live in a desert and smell camel shit buning for the rest of your life, maybe you'll become wiser, but I doubt it!!!
Maybe you have something to hide... One way or the other Chuck Shifflett will pay either in court by a judge or at judgement day. He should be worried about both. If you support him and think that he is such a wonderful person and you have children of your own, you better be watching them. I don't have any problems putting my name down on here and letting people know what I think...how about you.
Is it that you really don't belive Chuck is innocent? Is that why you're afraid to identify yourself as his supporter.
I don't blame you really for remaining annonymous.....why would want people to know that you support a pervert?
I've seen it all my life at so many different churches. It is just so sad to see this level of ignorance in such good loving "god fearing'" people. Think of all the good they could really do for their community of Culpeper if they focused their attention to a different cause.
Poor things!!!
He is also forbidden to have direct or indirect contact or communication with any witnesses who will testify in the case, the victims or their family members.
And he must not have contact with anyone under 18 unless another adult is present.
THE VICTIM OR THEIR FAMILY..Bet Mary Leake was at church tonight hanging on shifflett's every word...CULPEPER people you need to get a picture of Shifflettt and Mary Leake and hand it to the commonwealth attorney, and Shifflett will be jailed till his trial for violations of a court order.If you want this evil man off the streets and away from young children just turn him in. DO IT FOR THE CHILDREN!!!!!
How clever. Christians accusing other Christians of "blindly" trusting and believing someone they CAN see.... yet, chances are the accuser would take issue if it were pointed out that they do the exact same for something they CAN'T see.
Shame on you for not believing these victims. May God help you and all you other Chuck Shifflett supporters.
Or if that doesn't help, try chanting this on a full moon:
Hoof and horn
Hoof and horn
All that dies shall be reborn!
Corn and grain
Corn and grain
Don't let Schifflett preach again!
"a grat school" - great
"thier children" - their
Did they teach you about Proper Nouns, capitalization, commas??? Any of those sound familiar? Can you count, do math, balance a check book? Read a legal contract or loan document?
Come on...Seriously, it's a joke right?
If it was not a joke, then what a sad commentary that poster's demonstrated writing ability is on the academic merits of that school.
Wowee.
"How come his family isn't defending him? Where are they? How come Tom Reese and Brenda Jenkins were with him and not his family"
Is this true? Janest wasn't with him? What about his daughters & their husbands?? Has any of his family publicly supported him?
There is no amount of money that can wipe away the pain and loss of childhood that they suffered. But, making Chuck financially compendate his vitims will make Chuck suffer a great loss.
"compendate his vitims"
Please install a spellcheck program on your website!
As for the Jenkins woman, I only believe what I have seen.
As for Shiff, he should suffer agony as the victims have. No child at no age should be treated the way the shiff victims have been treated. My heart breaks for Chad, Woody, Liz, and the others. I feel ashamed of the people who question why these "kids" are just now coming forward. I was raped/molested when I was 12, that was 31 years ago. I came forward 2 years ago and no one, absolutely no one gave me support nor understanding.
Chad, Woody, Liz, and the other victims: I support you 100%
For the life of me I don't understand how they can keep quiet. If my husband or father were accused of something I knew to be false I'd be on radio and TV professing my support.
Have they made ANY public comments?
Two of the victims mother still goes to Shifflett's church even though he has been prohibited by the judge to have any contact with the victims or their families. it's just crazy that the people of Culpeper are sitting by and letting this continue, when all they have to do is get a picture of Shifflett and the victims mother togather.This so called christian woman choose Shifflett over her own children. The sad part is that no one cares about these victims and what Shifflett did to them. Lot's of people here claim they are so close to the case and share in their thoughts for the victims but they are doing nothing to help them put shifflett behind bars and they live right their in Culpeper. Shame on you Culpeper residents!
I knew Woody Leake. To my knowledge, I never heard him referred to as "Drip". Does this mean it didn't happen? I saw Woody as "Preachers" shadow. He was always running up to him grinning. Preacher would grab his head in a playful head lock and "rough him up" rubbing his knuckles on his hair. Woody seemed to enjoy and relish the attention, even to seek it out. Does this mean he was never abused in any way?
I saw Woody's mom daily. She seemed happy to be the devoted "errand" girl of the church. I saw her daily, yet I do not recall that she was married. Does this mean she was not? I also have the opinion that she is not a very feminine woman. She was the very opposite of the pastor’s wife.I saw her spend A LOT of time at the church and school, but I also saw that the majority of this time was spent with Miss Putnam and or the other women.
I saw Archie Seale as part of the inner circle of men. On the surface, I saw harmony and trust in this inner circle. I believe that if I knew of fundamental wrong doing and I was faced with a “My way or the highway” attitude, I would be leaving. He whole heartedly showed his support of Preacher- maed it known well. It he knew of any abuse, whether of trust, children or power, he should have made it public. I have heard him preach many times. Preacher was not the only pastor we sat under and trusted. If he let this go on because he did not want to lose his position within the church, he was being selfish. God loves the people who were on his route and in his Sunday school class much more than Archie Seale ever could. He would have provided for them. Every man and leader in that church had a responsibility to investigate any concerns or accusations, not to let the multitude of children that come through those doors to be a potential victim of mental or physical abuse. IF any abuse happened, there will be others who will held accountable, not just Pastor Shifflett.
When I was 16-18, I was the closest with the families in that inner circle. There were a few “smarmy” men who needed to be convinced to look at your eyes and not your anatomy or that you really didn’t want to hug them every time you saw them (I would rate Tom Reese as No. 2 out of the 3 that were to be avoided) The girls of the church, including his daughters and niece discussed these men. Does this mean that they went on to abuse the young girls of the church? “Actually- I just heard a rumor--??
I remember Chad, but only briefly. I know that he came and was “different” than the regular church guys because his family dressed a little more trendy and worldly than the others. If he was not rebellious, he gave the appearance that he was. Brother Josh Shifflett’s children were the same way. I liked them both immensely, they seemed to be good kids- but they gave the appearance of pushing the edge of the rules. I know that appearances are not always what they seem. It appears to Archie Seale (by his comments following the Lambs series) that he thinks Jeri is doing this for the victims. It appears to me that her agenda is to further her crusade against the teachings of Dr. Jack Hyles. It also appears to me that she has taken brief excerpts of sermons and comments from interviews, highlighted them, played them where they fit her outline of how the story should flow. I realize that there is much more to the story and it will all be told to a jury. I cannot decide guilt or innocence based on the accounting of these children. If they are reporting only facts, they would be telling it with pain and conviction. If they are telling lies, again, they would be telling it with pain and conviction. Jeri has done them an injustice by sacrificing these “Lambs of Culpeper” on the altar of her personal vendetta. This should have been their story presented in a way that shed light on their reported abuse, not her further victimizing them by using their reported misfortune to further her own cause. I am sure if I scoured Jeri’s sites and recordings and took brief portions, out of context, I could list her on my own Hall of Shame.
I attended Calvary Baptist Academy for a brief period of time. I also attended Hyles-Anderson College. I have heard both Shifflett and Jack Hyles. I have agreed with them, disagreed with them, learned from their sermons and at times- set through them watching the clock. The representation Jeri has given of their teachings is incorrect and biased, as is her position that Hyles-Anderson is a breeding ground for pedophiles and spouse abusers. I would very much like to see a study of the police reports and convictions of all graduates of Virginia Tech or Harvard University. In your listing of Hyles graduates that have perpetrated these crimes, have you run the numbers to get a percentage of total graduates or enrollees that this number represents?
If Shifflett committed these crimes, I want him to pay. I want him to never be allowed to belittle, demean or abuse another child or adult. BUT—what if he did not?
He supported me, his girls were my best friends, and his wife was my role model. I never saw any of these things--- no one ever warned me away. If so many people knew he was so vile, why was nothing ever done?
Also, everyone keeps stating (Jeri included) that they have talked to so many people who went to the school and church- I was there from 1980 until I stopped going in 1991 or 92- no one has asked me the 1st question.
"his family dressed a little more trendy and worldly than the others. If he was not rebellious, he gave the appearance that he was."
This is the same method of exclusion Chuck used to make me an example of a "bad Christian" when he was at Ripley Community Church. I actually tried to have a discussion with him about clothing having nothing to do with faith. I felt it was easier to witness to other teenagers because I didn’t dress so differently than they did. He felt I was arguing with him, that I was disrespecting him, because I had a different opinion. He just couldn’t handle someone standing up to him. Especially a teenage girl who wore her skirts above her knees or blue jeans with patches. It was the early 1970’s that’s what EVERY teenager was wearing at the time.
"There were a few “smarmy” men who needed to be convinced to look at your eyes and not your anatomy or that you really didn’t want to hug them every time you saw them."
This too was a trait that Chuck had during his time at Ripley Community. All of the “good” girls were too embarrassed to say anything about how uncomfortable he made them feel. (He’s a man of God…..It must be something they did to draw his attention to their breasts.) And the “bad” girls found it to be another example of the pervert he was. These girls didn’t say anything because they felt they would not be believed or, like me, they would be labeled a liar, a trouble maker. We were already made to beel as if we were an embarrassment to our families because we voiced our own opinions and because we wore clothes of the fashion trend of the time.
Some people never change....some people get worse. Looks like Chuck got worse.
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Cullen ordered Shifflett to abide by the conditions of his current bond, which include refraining from alcohol, drugs and possessing firearms.
He is also forbidden to have direct or indirect contact or communication with any witnesses who will testify in the case, the victims or their family members.
And he must not have contact with anyone under 18 unless another adult is present.
Why don't you stay off this website, you religious idiot jackass!!!
I will stay like you and remain anonymous.
I would like to express my appreciation to the “Ex-Christian” website for allowing those with different opinions (Christians) who have a personal interest in this case a forum to vent and discuss their feelings and personal experiences anonymously. Your tolerance for others is an example that many self-proclaimed Christians (as well as the writer above) might well learn from.
I think Chuck has learned how to use the internet!
Liz Mitchell
Staff Writer
Monday, September 18, 2006
Charles Shifflett, pastor of First Baptist Church of Culpeper, is scheduled to appear in Circuit Court today to state whether he is innocent or guilty of the seven felonies he’s facing.
Shifflett, 54, was scheduled for arraignment two weeks ago but his case was continued to allow his lawyer, Samuel Higginbotham II, of Orange, to obtain a “bill of particulars” from the commonwealth, which would outline facts of each charge against his client.
Shifflett faces seven charges of physical and sexual abuse against children for incidents that occurred at his former church, Cavalry Baptist, up to 20 years ago.
Assistant Commonwealth’s Attorney Tom Smith is representing five victims in the case. Chad Robison, 29, was the first person to come forward after the Culpeper County Sheriff’s Office arrested Shifflett in January on charges of cruelty and injury to children. Three of Shifflett’s charges relate to physical and sexual abuse against Robison.
Later that month, Liz Bailey, 35, obtained a citizen warrant against Shifflett on a charge of indecent liberties for an incident of a sexual nature that occurred in 1988.
In March, her 28-year-old brother Woody Leake brought charges against Shifflett for physical and emotional abuse he endured as an elementary school student at Cavalry Baptist Academy - the church’s adjoining K-12 private school. One of his charges was dropped.
However, Shifflett is facing a charge of cruelty and injury to Leake for a “tree game,” in which Shifflett allegedly took boys out of school to split wood and told them to stand as close to the trees as possible while they were falling. Leake said Shifflett would belittle those who would run away by calling the children names.
The tree game constitutes another of Shifflett’s charges against an unnamed victim, who was 17 at the time.
Shifflett’s latest arrest came in June through direct indictments the commonwealth brought before a grand jury on two charges of cruelty and injury to children.
The first is in relation to 27-year-old Robert Hammonds, who attended the church’s school as a young boy and teenager.
The commonwealth has not commented as to the nature of the charge.
The second charge relates to Robison and is sexual in nature, but is considered “tormenting” a child because Smith said the commonwealth could not prove Shifflett had a lascivious intent.
If found guilty, Shifflett could face a total sentence of up to 35 years in prison or a $17,500 fine for the Class 6 felonies.
His arraignment is scheduled for 4 p.m. today. If it is not postponed for any other legal reasons, a trial date should also be set.
Shifflett remains out of jail on bond with conditions that require him to refrain from alcohol, drugs and possessing firearms.
He is also forbidden to have direct or indirect contact or communication with any witnesses who will testify in the case, the victims or their family members.
And he must not have contact with anyone under 18 unless another adult is present
Shifflett pleads not guilty
Liz Mitchell
Staff Writer
Tuesday, September 19, 2006
The case of Charles Shifflett, pastor of First Baptist Church of Culpeper, might not be tried until next year.
In Culpeper Circuit Court Monday, Shifflett, 54, pleaded not guilty to seven felony charges of physical and sexual abuse against children and requested a trial by jury.
The alleged charges involve five victims for incidents that occurred up to 20 years ago at Calvary Baptist Church - where Shifflett was the former pastor - and its adjoining K-12 private school.
Shifflett’s lawyer, Samuel Higginbotham II, of Orange, told Judge John Cullen in court Monday that he and Assistant Commonwealth’s Attorney Tom Smith are still discussing a motion to either combine or separate the charges. If joined, the trial could take several days. If separated, Smith said the court would probably be looking at four separate trials. The motion hearing is scheduled for Oct. 25.
Higginbotham said his client has already waived his right to a speedy trial and would prefer to try the case next year.
After consulting the court’s calendar, Cullen said he would generally reserve four trial dates: Jan. 3 and 4 and Jan. 29 and 30, but the actual trial date would not be set until the motion is heard in October.
Smith said the commonwealth is not seeking to join the charge involving Liz Bailey with any of the other charges.
According to a citizen obtained warrant, in March 1988 Bailey was finishing some homework alone in a classroom at the church’s school when Shifflett came in and rubbed his privates against her arm with lascivious intent. This is one of two charges Shifflett faces involving indecent liberties with children.
He also faces five charges of cruelty and injury to children.
The Class 6 felonies carry a total sentence of up to 35 years in prison or a $17,500 fine.
Shifflett is now scheduled to appear in court Oct. 25 at 1:30 p.m. for a motion hearing, where the court would decide to try all the charges at once or independently.
Shifflett remains out of jail on bond with conditions that require him to refrain from alcohol, drugs and possessing firearms.
He is also forbidden to have direct or indirect contact or communication with any witnesses who will testify in the case, the victims or their family members.
And he must not have contact with anyone under 18 unless another adult is present
Let me just say this; in Culpeper today a theif is caught red handed and is out on the streets to rob again the same day what are the chances that justice will be served in any court of law?
I say little to none.
I know the fear these victims speak of. It's not fear alone but the shame and the guilt as well. As a child I experienced abuse of a sexual nature, I never spoke of it, back in the 70's & early 80's you didn't speak of this.
It was unheard of you wouldn't not be believed, and possibly they'd institutionalize you for making the accusation.
The commments made about the subject are ignorant made by people who were not even born in that time period and if they were they were too young to remember.
As far as character I do believe that one of the many duties of pastors is to help others not break them down, it is not their job to point fingers, but to assist them in finding their way to God. This pastor also was solely responsible for marriages to end, how? by getting to each party separtely and telling them different things to start them thinking something untrue about the other. He tried this with my husband and myself and he FAILED, God joined us and only God will pull us apart, not this so called preacher, even if justice is not served on earth God's say is final and the price will be paid there. He cannot escape God's judgement.
I'm sorry to those who have experienced his cruelity here and in time you will be rewarded keep your head up and keep God ever mindful. You may ask why but someday when the time is right God will show you the reason for it all.
Coop
Liz Mitchell
Staff Writer
Tuesday, October 17, 2006
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In Circuit Court Monday, Judge John R. Cullen separated the seven charges facing Charles Shifflett into four trials.
Shifflett, 55, is pastor of First Baptist Church of Culpeper. He pleaded not guilty last month to charges of physical and sexual abuse against children that allegedly occurred nearly 20 years ago at his former Culpeper church - Cavalry Baptist - and its adjacent K-12 private school.
The first trial is scheduled for Jan. 17. Two other trials will follow in January and the final trial is scheduled for Feb. 28. During court proceedings, the commonwealth moved to combine six of the charges into one case and try the final charge separately.
Shifflett’s defense attorneys said their client should not be subjected to a “shotgun approach” of allegations as broad as racial complaints to excessive whipping and sexual offenses that were originally brought as separate indictments. Ultimately, Cullen ruled to combine some, but not all, of the charges.
In his argument for combining the cases, Assistant Commonwealth’s Attorney Tom Smith said in six of the instances Shifflett was acting in a leadership capacity on the school’s campus trying to control students’ behavior.
The seventh charge, Smith said, is “purely sexual in nature and not connected.”
Defense attorneys Charlie Bowman and Samuel Higginbotham II, of Orange, said the cases should not be joined and the length of time between incidents was an issue. The seven incidents are alleged to have occurred between 1988 and 1999.
“These are all very, very different charges,” Bowman said.
Smith countered saying that justice required the trials to be combined.
“He’s acting in the same capacity with students under his leadership in the same place with the same motive,” Smith said stating the motive was to use manipulative tactics to control children.
“For justice to be done the jury is entitled to determine what his motive is,” Smith said.
Cullen determined that three of the cases relating to work that was done on the school’s property were similar in nature and could be combined. These include two charges involving a “tree game,” in which Shifflett allegedly took boys out of school to split wood and told them to stand as close to the trees as possible while they were falling. Smith said Shifflett would belittle those who would run away by calling the children names.
The third charge involved Robert Hammonds, whom Smith said was also conducting outside work on the school’s property but was not walking up a hill fast enough so the defendant allegedly shot at him and called him a racial slur.
Cullen also combined two charges, which are essentially the same sexual act against alleged victim Chad Robison.
The final two charges, Cullen ruled, would be tried separately.
Originally the trials were going to begin in November. Due to the complicated nature of the case and a personal request by Higginbotham, Cullen scheduled the trials to start next year.
Liz Mitchell can be reached at 825-0771 ext. 110 or emitchel@starexponent.com.
Breakdown of Charles Shifflett’s trials
Charles Shifflett, pastor of First Baptist Church of Culpeper faces seven charges involving physical and sexual abuse against children for incidents that occurred at his former church and its private school. Some of the charges were combined in Circuit Court Monday. Below is a trial schedule:
First trial: Jan. 17 at 9:30 a.m.
What: Shifflett faces three charges of cruelty and injury against Chad Robison, Woody Leake and Robert Hammonds that are said to have occurred while the children were splitting wood or working on school grounds. Two of the charges involve a “tree game,” where children were allegedly called names for running away from a falling tree. The third charge involves Hammonds, one of the only black students at Cavalry Baptist Academy, who was allegedly shot at and called a racial slur for not walking up a hill fast enough.
Reason: Judge John Cullen combined these cases because they all involved work on the church’s school property.
Second trial: Jan. 24 at 9:30 a.m.
What: Shifflett faces a charge of indecent liberties with a child and cruelty and injury to a child. Both allegedly involved sexual acts against Robison when he was a student at the school in the early ‘90s.
Reason: Cullen combined these cases because they involved the same alleged victim at the same time and place.
Third trial: Jan. 30 at 9:30 a.m.
What: Shifflett faces one charge of cruelty and injury to Jason Rudd. The commonwealth says he was repeatedly beaten with a 2-by-4 in front of his class in 1999.
Reason: Cullen did not combine this with any other cases because seven years had passed between this and the alleged “tree game” incidents.
Fourth trial: Feb. 28 at 9:30 a.m.
What: Shifflett faces a charge of indecent liberties against Liz Bailey. She was a student at the church’s school in 1988 and says Shifflett rubbed his privates against her arm with lascivious intent.
Reason: The commonwealth did not request to combine this case with any others.
Thanks.
We all knew about the money, but you closed your eyes to it...we knew about the affairs, but you closed your ears to it...I have yet to hear anyone apologize to any of the teens that went to that church and school that tried to tell you what was going on and tried to show you all. All that time you all were just thinking we were in that rebelous stage and we were "Bakesliding" Stop and think about how many of the teens that went to school with these victims do you see in church now. Not many of them. How are we supposed to trust people anymore. I like Shelly have never stepped foot in Calvary Baptist Church since I left there over 10 years ago. I went for a graduation one time and when I left there I was so sick at the way some of the people were. Most of them had not changed. They still look at you like you are trash becuase you weren't as good as them and still stuck their noses up in the air and the ones that did talk just wanted to find some new gossip.
I just pray that the kids that are in Chucks new "playhouse" are not going through what most of us did. We might not all have been physically abused by this man, but the emotional abuse was just as bad. It is hard to let go of that and to trust anyone.
No matter whether Jack Schaap does or doesn't back Chuck Shifflett up really doesn't matter..he is in another state. He didn't victimize you. What matters is that Chuck Shifflett is found guilty and the children of Culpeper are safe.
Your post bought back old feelings when I was a teen at Ripley Community Church and Chuck was the Asst Pastor there. I too was made to feel as if I was a bad Christian, a wild rebellious teenager, a trouble maker for speaking up. I was made to feel unworthy of God's love. When I tried to show them what Chuck was doing they thought I trying to place blame on Chuck to draw attention away from my own sins. I was strong and outspoken; not afraid to express my opinions. But He used my “strong will” to draw the attention away from himself and his behavior. He was very successful at poisoning what others thought of me; turning my best friend against me and ruining my reputation. He even convinced some of my own family members that I was a lost soul because I would disagree / debate Chuck and expressed my own thoughts and opinions. Because of how badly Chuck had influenced their opinion of me adults, leaders, family members in the church wouldn’t listen to anything I might say regarding Chuck. At 16 years old I left my family church to return only for funerals or weddings and after all these years a feeling of disgust comes over me.
I'm sorry for all of us who were made to feel Worthless by this wicked man!!